RickOriginalIdeaROI--> Doug Matzke proposed a technology to shift ones' consciousness back & forth... from classical to quantum reality, consistent with conciousness as primary and consistent with ancient e. indian bagavid gita reincarnation naturally occuring... and with Ettinger's Man INto Superman, last page of chapter 4. So ettinger was useful to me after all. FLying saucers are likely interdimensional as well though there are also classical ones that can exist, phasing in and out of classical spacetime. It may be that the flying saucers like this are demonstrating what we can do as an individual person given the right technology. Everything in the ancient bible that seem like miracles is likely technology not understood at the time by humans, as Von Daniken wrote about in 50 books and Sitchen in just as many. Coast last night included interview with a guy who proposed similar ideas as to what I'm suggesting. My assembling of Matzke's proposal, ettinger's predicution for futureman, and the guy last night on flying saucer tech.. is original. Ettinger was interesting in MIS in that he went far beyond cryonics in that book. I didn't like his last book, Younivers, but I should review it now.