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Clean and well-coached so far
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Posted by AintHatin
on October 29, 2023, 19:47:25, in reply to "
Da Bears- great first play.*
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/rolleyes
setting the table for a blowout by being sloppy af. just great.
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Da Bears- great first play.*
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LovetheChief
October 29, 2023, 19:26:03
Andrew Billings gets a two-year extension*
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AintHatin
November 2, 2023, 11:30:57
This seems like a great deal. $8.5MM, $6MM guaranteed.*
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Carl Spackler
November 2, 2023, 11:58:27
Can anyone else remember the last time "two" NFL coaches got fired, non-football reasons in 1 year?
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osklister
November 1, 2023, 13:40:16
I dont understand the quotes for two.
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
November 1, 2023, 16:26:45
no, but according to flus, the culture is great and they're 2-2 in their last 4 games.*
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Ari Gold
November 1, 2023, 15:02:48
Poles is speaking with the Media at 2:30*
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illini21
November 1, 2023, 13:11:20
did this happen?*
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Ari Gold
November 1, 2023, 15:01:39
Eberflus is a complete moron. That press conference was atrocious
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DanSaint
November 1, 2023, 12:25:08
Who is Frazier?*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
November 1, 2023, 16:02:34
He actually said the culture is awesome? Yikes *
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MC
November 1, 2023, 12:27:52
I’ll preface this by saying I still hate the trade. But I’ve been trying to find the positive spin
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OB25
November 1, 2023, 11:54:07
It's very simply a fine (just fine, not more than that) IF YOU SIGN HIM YESTERDAY! If not, terrible*
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PDO
November 1, 2023, 12:47:41
Why would a team that’s out of contention ever make a trade for an 8-game rental?
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meanjeans
November 1, 2023, 16:22:11
They have control over his rights now, can franchise him if he doesn’t sign long term.
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OB25
November 1, 2023, 16:46:37
Got it, that’s very helpful, thanks *
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meanjeans
November 1, 2023, 19:20:01
The problem is, he doesn’t have to perform to his market value to make this deal worth it.
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Carl Spackler
November 1, 2023, 12:43:17
Similar to what PDO said above, the fact that he’s not already signed to an extension…
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OB25
November 1, 2023, 13:00:52
FWIW, Dane Brugler updated his big board this morning. Drake Maye #1.
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Carl Spackler
November 1, 2023, 8:10:10
Maye has every measurable you want in a QB
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AintHatin
November 1, 2023, 11:15:35
Honestly Harrison should be No. 1
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illini
November 1, 2023, 8:45:54
I know this is the bears thread, but Johnny Newton #21*
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snipes824
November 1, 2023, 8:19:35
he's a liuget NFL 3T*
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 9:40:12
need a few Moe of those to raise our profile*
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Sammich
November 1, 2023, 9:47:06
Otherwise the point will be Smoot*
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John Coctostan
November 1, 2023, 9:53:29
The more I watch Maye the more I start to lean that way too
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illini21
November 1, 2023, 8:15:19
But who’s to say Maye’s ceiling isn’t just as high?*
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bjl63
November 1, 2023, 8:23:08
Well it's the Bears so who has the higher floor?*
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RVA
November 1, 2023, 8:18:00
I’m resigned to the fact that it doesn’t matter. The bears will ruin either
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John Coctostan
November 1, 2023, 8:46:05
they're gonna trade up to pick 2 and take JJ McCarthy*
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Sammich
November 1, 2023, 8:23:59
They'll trade Carolina's pick to move up 1 spot, Trubisky style, and take JJ.
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Warrin'_Illini
November 1, 2023, 8:29:27
They’ll probably trade to get in front of themselves as their next trick*
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Illini Guy
November 1, 2023, 9:43:36
"Pace took the Carolina guy, but I dodged that bullet. This is gonna work out great!"*
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Sammich
November 1, 2023, 8:30:59
In a scene reminiscent of Alonzo Spellman's standoff with local police, an armed Sweat, angry with
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Warrin'_Illini
November 1, 2023, 8:40:45
Michael Lombardi calling it one of the worst trades he's ever seen.*
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baconface
November 1, 2023, 7:31:52
Yeah I'm listening to him crush the trade right now. Just terrible.*
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Warrin'_Illini
November 1, 2023, 9:31:36
he's just mad cause his son got passed over for the interim Raiders job*
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Sammich
November 1, 2023, 8:29:39
This makes me like it more. He’s a blowhard*
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bjl63
November 1, 2023, 8:23:31
he is but every time I've hated one of his bears takes he's turned out correct*
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baconface
November 1, 2023, 8:28:19
Bears fire their RB coach*
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Mrap24
November 1, 2023, 7:10:59
Flus built quite the staff
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AintHatin
November 1, 2023, 7:48:32
he is elite
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 9:41:35
He's terrible
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AintHatin
November 1, 2023, 11:19:48
did you read the inside of the post?*
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 11:21:13
Oh, I did. That wasn't a shot at you.
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AintHatin
November 1, 2023, 11:21:42
shit away. there's nothing he does well. *
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 11:34:28
I cant imagine interviewing him for the job and thinking "THATS my guy!"*
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illini21
November 1, 2023, 7:52:21
Thanks bill Polian! Nobody aspired to be the sh1tty colts but here we are *
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FidelGoodell
November 1, 2023, 7:51:40
Now do Eberflus*
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illini21
November 1, 2023, 7:31:02
And Poles. Send them both packing now just like Vegas just did. *
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harb
November 1, 2023, 9:05:00
source? he's still on the team web site*
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Poldark
November 1, 2023, 7:21:30
ooo
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Mrap24
November 1, 2023, 7:54:31
Fishabain and Jahns on twitter*
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Mrap24
November 1, 2023, 7:28:43
HR department was involved*
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Mrap24
November 1, 2023, 7:21:18
What the hell is going on*
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illini21
November 1, 2023, 7:24:22
what in the hell is going on there?*
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Ari Gold
November 1, 2023, 7:20:56
yup, that's the problem.*
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LovetheChief
November 1, 2023, 7:16:21
Josh McDaniels fired again. GM too.
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assassin
November 1, 2023, 0:21:46
he is the poster boy for Genius Adjacent Coaching and why I like Ben Johnson so much.
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VIV
November 1, 2023, 9:43:42
Yes, absolutely.*
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Carl Spackler
November 1, 2023, 10:10:24
About 12 hours later and I’m still so fucking mad about this trade*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 22:27:05
I think I’m less angry because I’ve started to become apathetic towards the whole thing
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 22:28:41
It’s just sad. Just dealt 2 building blocks to this team as high 2nd round picks.
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Carl Spackler
November 1, 2023, 7:47:03
Yep*
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JacobRDaugherty
November 1, 2023, 8:34:58
Jaylon staying in Chicago per Rap*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 14:33:53
And supposedly won’t talk contract for the rest of the year. Good way to get franchised.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 15:33:54
RapSheet just tweeted Johnson isn't expected to move
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 14:33:50
good*
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illini21
October 31, 2023, 14:42:51
If Young signs a qualifying deal, 49ers get a comp third round pick.
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MC
October 31, 2023, 14:28:19
Delete.*
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gullit
October 31, 2023, 14:28:10
Ah damn. Sounds like that would have been a pretty good deal.*
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Warrin'_Illini
October 31, 2023, 14:33:18
Delete.*
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gullit
October 31, 2023, 14:32:09
source?*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 14:29:47
Oliver sucks fyi. *
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MC
October 31, 2023, 14:28:59
What a classic Bears day so glad SF did the trade afterwards to make them look stupid.*
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gullit
October 31, 2023, 14:18:38
Rumblings SF may not be done. Johnson?
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 14:23:59
hahahah, yep, it's perfect*
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reggiedunlop
October 31, 2023, 14:20:41
Chase Young 11th in pass rush win rate. Montez Sweat 52nd
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 14:13:47
infante and schlereth fans of the sweat deal?
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 13:48:35
field yates too.
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 13:55:18
"assuming he is eventually extended" is doing yeoman's work in that analysis*
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 14:04:20
I don’t have an expectation for access journalists to be critical*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 14:01:41
some pretty big assumptions there
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 13:59:21
The problem with the first tweet is that it assumes there is no alternative
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 13:51:58
Infante went to Mizzou, so thinking is hard for him*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 13:49:31
Chase Young (chummmmp) to SF
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assassin
October 31, 2023, 13:40:53
Update: So the Niners gave up a 3rd round comp pick. Bears 4th and 5th I’m sure would have done it.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 14:29:47
Just brutal*
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reggiedunlop
October 31, 2023, 13:56:09
So sweat is better than chase young?
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FidelGoodell
October 31, 2023, 13:46:11
no, Lynch is better than Poles
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 13:47:01
Lulz, so much truth*
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PapaDels
November 1, 2023, 12:35:14
And that’s a late 3, given the Niners record. Yeah give me this deal all day over Sweat’s.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 13:45:38
100%. i'd rather have young over sweat straight up. *
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 13:46:21
Yeah agreed. And imagine Young will be much more successful*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 13:46:13
3rd round pick, which makes sense given his injury history.*
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 13:45:02
So sweat fetches more than young?
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snipes824
October 31, 2023, 13:44:53
Sweat is a better player. But whatever the bears made a dumbass deal.*
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baconface
October 31, 2023, 13:46:51
I assume health/injury concerns
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 13:46:26
Your subject confused me. I was surprised the Bengals traded Brown so fast
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 13:42:38
he's the only Chase in my heart*
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assassin
October 31, 2023, 13:44:43
Re: Your subject confused me. I was surprised the Bengals traded Brown so fast
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jdl
October 31, 2023, 13:43:45
In other news the Vikings are trading for Josh Dobbs*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 12:50:29
Are the Cardinals just deliberately trying to lose this year with the Kyler stuff?
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 12:52:10
That's ok with me this week *
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 12:54:54
How ya feeling about the game? Taking Cleveland in survivor pool *
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MC
October 31, 2023, 13:04:32
Its maybe the best time to use Cleveland? But with having about league worst QB play this year,
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 13:08:17
Yeah fair enough. Poor choices this week. CLE, NO (vs CHI), or ATL (vs MIN) *
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MC
October 31, 2023, 13:16:27
LOL
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 12:41:55
Maybe he wants to live somewhere with cold winters and high taxes?*
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jayd
October 31, 2023, 14:20:48
Montez Sweat has the opportunity to do an amazingly funny thing*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 13:06:04
So basically they’re gonna give him a FA market deal at the low low price of a 2nd rd pick *
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MC
October 31, 2023, 13:05:32
Perfect.*
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Ron McDon
October 31, 2023, 12:51:35
ooo
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 12:50:42
if this is true, i'm done with poles.*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 12:48:46
I mean it’s absolutely true*
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Mrap24
October 31, 2023, 12:54:14
The answer is that they’re just going to pay him a premium price, probably a big overpay.
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 12:51:19
Yeah my guess is the give him a huge deal or tag him
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 12:52:52
ayfkm*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 12:47:59
Bears get Montez Sweat for a second rounder*
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AintHatin
October 31, 2023, 10:43:55
Another thing: Bears aren’t going to compete the next 2 years with a rookie QB.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 12:40:55
This was the same logic that made Reggie and I so mad at the Fields trade.
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 12:42:08
could that also mean they’re going to use at least one of their top 2 picks on a qb?
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 12:20:07
I don't see any way they don't use one of their 1st rounders on a QB
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 12:43:22
Also, see a lot of “well, the Bears will recoup this with Johnson, so it’ll offset”
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 11:48:00
Also [e: why] would a 2-6 be trading for aging talent while trading away young talent*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 11:55:59
and the pick they get for Johnson will be from a contender
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 11:52:18
It's the same shitty logic that I saw posited here when we traded our early 2nd for Claypool
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 11:57:03
Nit: they already had the Ravens pick at the time of the trade
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 12:23:05
Why not have those assets and the one you just threw away? *
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 11:50:07
NOVEL IDEA, DANIMAL*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 12:12:35
It just makes me sad. This cycle of suck only gets worse. Reboot everything, flush the roster,
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 12:19:08
Poles 100% has to go as well. I was like 95% before this because his draft picks seemed ok.
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 11:37:41
Yeah definitely. Warren should want to hire his own guy, so I’m hopeful.*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 11:45:08
Question I saw asked. Is warren overseeing player personnel or just there to get a stadium*
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CoronaTheirAss
October 31, 2023, 11:59:25
He's overseeing Poles*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 12:03:29
Then why would Warren allow him to trade capital?! It's groundhog Day. Christ*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 11:50:50
Is he involved in the day to day?*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 12:12:23
Assuming he's got final approval*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 12:18:11
I'm team gvibes on this now. pitchforks should be out and let's reboot this shit again. this isn't
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 11:41:15
The pride of Copiah–Lincoln Community College! *Goes out to buy some Old Spice*
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timmer
October 31, 2023, 11:33:24
God dammit what the hell are we doing. This is yet again giving away damn near a 1st round pick
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 11:27:33
Talk about stepping on their dicks*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
October 31, 2023, 11:50:21
And sitting at 2-6 now with no chance at the playoffs, any game he helps you win now is a negative
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 11:43:55
There has to be an extension agreement, right?*
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Mrap24
October 31, 2023, 11:26:20
Would be hilarious if they couldn't work out a deal and have to tag him*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 11:31:21
there has to be. *
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 11:27:18
This is fucking crazy. Like, fireable.
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 11:13:05
BUT FUCKING WHY?*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 11:11:40
It literally doesn’t matter how good he is
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 11:15:07
The only answer I can see is that they think they’re going to get fired and want to show improvement
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 11:16:28
If fucking Kevin Warren even had a thought of firing poles and allows this...
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 11:49:33
100 percent this. This is just desperate GM shit*
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CoronaTheirAss
October 31, 2023, 11:33:43
Yep, which means Warren sucks too.
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illini
October 31, 2023, 11:42:01
yeah, i agree. the more i think about this, the less i like it*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 11:34:26
that’s where kevin warren needs to step in.*
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Ari Gold
October 31, 2023, 11:21:00
Now there’s a comforting thought*
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Ron McDon
October 31, 2023, 11:24:24
To fix this, Warren is trading Sweat to the University of Michigan for two souvenir pennants*
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GMAW
October 31, 2023, 11:27:08
Illinois University will not be involved, however.*
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Ron McDon
October 31, 2023, 11:43:55
yeah, has a desperation feel to it *
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 11:19:15
i can't argue with that. *
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 11:16:03
Why is a team that is almost eliminated from the playoffs
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OrangeSox
October 31, 2023, 11:10:13
The answer to that question is no he does not
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 11:15:53
His college scouting team seems OK. Though we obviously should have taken Jalen Carter*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 11:38:31
I'd rather over pay him in Free Agency than give up draft capital*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 11:10:56
Why not just sign him after this year? Why give a 2nd rounder away for 10 games of a season
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voiceofreason
October 31, 2023, 11:07:31
maybe Poles had word that some other team was ready to snatch Sweat up
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 11:10:40
that's what happened with claypool*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 11:26:30
I'd like to see Poles doing some car shopping*
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 11:30:26
Possibly, but there are more fish in the sea then. This isn’t Aaron Donald or a Bosa.*
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voiceofreason
October 31, 2023, 11:11:59
King Poles strikes again.*
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Warrin'_Illini
October 31, 2023, 11:08:15
Claypool was idiotic at the time, but at least you had more control of the player and
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voiceofreason
October 31, 2023, 11:11:18
It's so dumb. Claypool at least had one more season on his contract.
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Warrin'_Illini
October 31, 2023, 11:17:16
Won’t be as bad as claypool but hate*
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CoronaTheirAss
October 31, 2023, 11:05:47
Terrible*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 11:05:13
Ughhhh, do not like at all*
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reggiedunlop
October 31, 2023, 10:58:06
Yeah the more I’ve sat on this the more I hate it.*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 11:00:08
same.
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 11:17:06
Would you rather have a 2nd rounder and $20MM to spend or Sweat?
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 11:39:20
yeah, I don't hate the player and its a massive need. but just throwing away resources for nothing *
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 11:25:03
yeah I'm trending that way too
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 11:08:23
Me too*
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illini21
October 31, 2023, 11:07:14
I was just coming back to say, no, I actually really, really hate it*
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reggiedunlop
October 31, 2023, 11:02:42
What a fucking waste*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 11:07:36
Feels desperate*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 31, 2023, 10:57:15
I think Jaylon is definitely gone now. They’ll try to recoup that pick
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AintHatin
October 31, 2023, 10:54:19
what's the general decline curve for edge rushers?
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 10:50:04
he's pretty damn good imo. Better than some guys who are more well known.*
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baconface
October 31, 2023, 10:48:23
Pass rushers with good numbers on loaded lines make me nervous.*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 10:49:28
ya...good point.*
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baconface
October 31, 2023, 10:54:29
Are his numbers really that good?*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 10:53:56
He’s got 6.5 sacks this season, but his previous years aren’t that great.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 10:56:15
PFF seems to think really good run defender, middling pass rusher*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 10:57:06
Phillip Daniels vibes*
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 11:00:25
agreed. i think he's a good addition, but i hate giving up top 40 picks *
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 10:49:11
Poles really hates early 2nd rounders. i like this better than claypool, though*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 10:47:48
we call that "damning with faint praise"*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 11:04:48
I'd like you better than Claypool.*
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LovetheChief
October 31, 2023, 10:54:02
thanks! me too!!!!*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 10:55:41
Yeah it could be like the 34th pick*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 10:48:57
UFA after this season. Pay this man his money*
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HamptonSki
October 31, 2023, 10:45:51
Man, that seems steep*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 10:45:32
I don't hate that
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IlliniSax05
October 31, 2023, 10:45:32
Man I dunno.*
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 10:45:03
I don't like it. mid season you're not going anywhere and burning draft resources for a
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1 NEW
October 31, 2023, 10:54:34
Yeah exactly. We’re a rebuilding team trading away high second round picks.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 10:57:21
And again, the comparison to the roquan deal. Last year we are dumping our best talent for picks
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 11:06:02
Yes, this is terrible*
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reggiedunlop
October 31, 2023, 10:58:49
I feel safe in predicting he'll be better than the last guy they spent a second-rounder on*
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 10:45:01
Biggs says Bears are close to adding a defensive end*
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AintHatin
October 31, 2023, 9:30:02
i'm guessing sweat or young?*
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 10:02:15
But why?*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 9:38:15
their defensive line is fucking atrocious?
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VIV
October 31, 2023, 10:10:34
Trade a second rounder for chase young, don't extend him, trade him away for a 7th next year*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 10:12:38
Improving the roster?
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bjl63
October 31, 2023, 9:45:35
wot*
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gvibes
October 31, 2023, 9:34:06
I have a suspicion that I’m going to hate whatever this move is*
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OB25
October 31, 2023, 9:31:31
Given Poles' track record i think thats a safe bet*
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illini21
October 31, 2023, 10:04:23
How have Darnell, Dexter, and Stevenson looked?*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
October 31, 2023, 8:25:13
And Pickens*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
October 31, 2023, 8:27:03
Cromulent, IMO. Although Stephenson seems to be struggling the most.*
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Warrin'_Illini
October 31, 2023, 8:28:58
Jaylon Johnson has requested a trade per Jeremy Fowler from ESPN*
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OB25
October 30, 2023, 23:40:09
After thinking about this more, my guess with where things are at
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 8:44:00
didn't give himself much lead time*
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Sammich
October 31, 2023, 8:21:15
Wonder where the sides are at on this one.
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Carl Spackler
October 31, 2023, 6:51:01
I hate this franchise*
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illini21
October 31, 2023, 6:40:14
Maybe Bears want him to hear from other teams what his market value is.*
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longsnapper
October 31, 2023, 6:35:19
Bears give him permission to seek one. What a mess*
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Mrap24
October 31, 2023, 6:21:44
I’d rather they keep him
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AintHatin
October 31, 2023, 5:46:10
Keep trading your best players...just a coincidence you keep getting worse*
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QcIlliniFan
October 31, 2023, 1:16:39
It’s cool. We’ll just use another draft pick in a corner and hope he is as good as Jaylon*
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illini21
October 31, 2023, 6:46:13
Awesome*
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reggiedunlop
October 30, 2023, 23:43:37
Bagent starting next week against the Saints *
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 14:27:50
Good, obviously needs Fields needs another week of learning by watching.*
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PDO
October 30, 2023, 16:26:59
I appreciate Fields wanting to get back ASAP, but it makes no sense to rush him.
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 15:08:33
"no" sense*
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Orangeillini
October 30, 2023, 16:06:24
Important word!*
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 16:10:03
named already? how back is fields' thumb?*
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VIV
October 30, 2023, 14:40:51
Eberflus announced it in his press conference a little bit ago.He says Justin is still week to week*
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 14:42:23
Picks Saints for survivor. Apologize in advance Tiki*
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CubsWonWorldSeries
October 30, 2023, 14:28:54
So if the Bears don’t trade Johnson by tomorrow, have to extend or franchise, right?
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 13:17:14
he's the best player on the defense and you have the cap space
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VIV
October 30, 2023, 14:07:39
they should trade him and then sign two inferior CBs in the offseason*
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Sammich
October 30, 2023, 14:09:50
For more money than he would have made*
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JacobRDaugherty
October 30, 2023, 14:25:40
Extend, extend, extend*
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 13:31:50
no way you can tag him.*
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Ari Gold
October 30, 2023, 13:30:19
also olin's big take this morning was how bad they've played after their 5 wins in the flus era
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Ari Gold
October 30, 2023, 13:13:57
Velus Jones on his dropped pass. Cut this fucking guy.
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 10:00:45
should’ve been done coming out of training camp. he clearly can’t do anything / enough
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Ari Gold
October 30, 2023, 10:05:38
Also time to give up on Dominique Robinson.*
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 12:21:29
who?*
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Illini Guy
October 30, 2023, 12:29:08
How bad does Velus Jones Jr. have to be before he gets cut?*
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IlliniOllie
October 30, 2023, 7:20:55
The first offensive draft pick by Ryan Poles, everyone*
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 7:43:20
I’m kind of surprised with the negativity in the Chicago media over Bagent’s play.
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 7:02:29
I think it’s all moot anyway. Everything the bears have signaled is that they want to dump fields.
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VIV
October 30, 2023, 11:48:12
100%
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 9:40:25
Also I don't get why everyone is so eager to put labels on him
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 9:44:33
people are entrenched. they'd rather be right than the bears be good.*
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VIV
October 30, 2023, 11:00:53
you just explained most internet fans. would rather have a losing team and seem
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1 NEW
October 30, 2023, 11:37:36
I think this sentiment is worse this year because there's Caleb Williams and Drake Maye
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IlliniOllie
October 30, 2023, 12:04:04
agreed. it sucks having to do this all over again, though.*
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VIV
October 30, 2023, 12:16:49
Everyone has to have a hot take NOW, that's why*
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bjl63
October 30, 2023, 10:28:46
Yeah totally on this. I don’t see anything physically that prevents him from being a legit QB.
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 9:58:22
The undrafted part is a huge part of it
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 10:02:29
To quibble I don’t think you should treat an undrafted FA the same as a first rounder
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CoronaTheirAss
October 30, 2023, 10:08:03
On paper sure.
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 10:13:11
Not really. The draft assessment is the result of hours and hours of play plus immeasurable a
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CoronaTheirAss
October 30, 2023, 10:55:39
The more game data you have the less importance draft assessment and scouting reports become
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 11:07:12
The draft is mostly a crapshoot?
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CoronaTheirAss
October 30, 2023, 12:39:37
When it comes to identifying which players will be successful?
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 12:46:13
Put it this way. If the 2023 NFL draft were held today Tyson Bagent would not go undrafted*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 30, 2023, 11:12:58
Or this way: Peyton Manning had 8 interceptions his first 3 games*
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CoronaTheirAss
October 30, 2023, 12:38:13
Hell, I think he’d easily go top 4 rounds*
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 12:20:18
A natural overreaction to the initial overreaction*
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AintHatin
October 30, 2023, 9:11:40
I’m kind of surprised it's a story at all
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Sammich
October 30, 2023, 8:31:38
this team is terrible. they need something to get clicks
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IlliniSax05
October 30, 2023, 8:35:57
I thought Bagent's running was a key against the Raiders and yet he didn't run at all last night.
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Orangeillini
October 30, 2023, 8:02:28
Also, I feel like people don’t understand the bar for backups. “Could develop into a solid backup”
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 7:58:35
Calling Dobbs awful seems off to me
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snipes824
October 30, 2023, 8:22:32
He’s been bad. And couldn’t beat out a lot of guys (mason rudolph, DTR etc) on other teams.
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1 NEW
October 30, 2023, 10:33:52
Maybe we’re talking about different things
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snipes824
October 30, 2023, 10:39:47
I’m not sure he is one of the best backups. He’s just one of the ones playing right now.
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1 NEW
October 30, 2023, 10:50:19
Yeah you need your backup to be able to help you tread water for 3 games
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snipes824
October 30, 2023, 10:56:56
I watched more of that game than I care to admit. He’s really struggled the last 4 games.
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 8:32:43
Agreed! I was mostly commenting that if bagent meets “capable backup status,” Dobbs does too*
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snipes824
October 30, 2023, 8:54:39
Yeah if we have found our long-term backup in Bagent then that is a massive win*
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 8:08:02
Finding a long-term backup QB is like kissing your sister*
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HamptonSki
October 30, 2023, 8:20:59
A cheap as hell competent back up is pretty damn valuable*
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 8:24:41
When's the last time a competent backup won a Super Bowl?*
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HamptonSki
October 30, 2023, 8:27:04
Kurt Warner was a backup. *
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harb
October 30, 2023, 9:35:18
Big Dick Nick*
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longsnapper
October 30, 2023, 8:30:53
Touche*
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HamptonSki
October 30, 2023, 8:36:04
But, having a capable backup only matters if the rest of your roster is competitive.
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longsnapper
October 30, 2023, 8:43:32
Tom Brady
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IlliniSax05
October 30, 2023, 8:32:50
Jeff Hostetler, Jim Plunkett*
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bjl63
October 30, 2023, 8:45:56
The #mustprotect Justin Fields is really quite amazing
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GMAW
October 30, 2023, 7:23:43
flip side-
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VIV
October 30, 2023, 10:12:00
#mustprotect a black quarterback? There's a first time for everything*
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HamptonSki
October 30, 2023, 7:34:19
I don’t get it*
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GMAW
October 30, 2023, 8:18:37
The next Bears fan I see protecting Justin Fields will be the first. He's hated in Chicago*
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HamptonSki
October 30, 2023, 8:27:44
You’re not real*
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GMAW
October 30, 2023, 8:35:01
Huh? I see Twitter polls all the time with “would you rather have Fields or Caleb Williams”
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 8:34:49
I guess I didn't realize that either. I kind of assumed everyone was out on Fields
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 8:39:35
Even if you’re out on him, it’s more like a sad out than a “FUCK THIS GUY”*
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Carl Spackler
October 30, 2023, 8:44:38
that's where I'm at
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IlliniSax05
October 30, 2023, 8:48:05
Yeah you're right*
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illini21
October 30, 2023, 8:46:36
That line was out of date 20 years ago when Rush Limbaugh tried it. *
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larue33
October 30, 2023, 7:45:57
ffs.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 22:12:57
Definitely no reason to attempt passes with Bagent down here.*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 22:11:04
Why the hell would you challenge that to begin with?
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 22:10:59
he’s an idiot.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 22:11:16
Fuck, I forgot my own advice
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 22:11:50
catch the ball.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:55:58
Wow a 3rd and long conversion, no way*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 21:46:26
reading on Twix: seems like the commentators are trying to really go out of their way to praise
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DanSaint
October 29, 2023, 21:46:10
It's a white backup QB replacing a black starting QB. Don't overthink it*
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HamptonSki
October 30, 2023, 7:59:24
I mean they did say that. There are things Tyson definitely does better than Justin
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 21:48:18
I just think they're forcing it. They want it to become a story. Feed the "controversy" storyline*
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DanSaint
October 29, 2023, 21:52:05
They (being the media) do this all the time. It’s pretty annoying *
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MC
October 29, 2023, 22:05:34
Dude it’s a blowout*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 21:58:19
Who is “they?” The commentators or the people on twitter?
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 21:54:41
It's a 2-4 vs 2-5. They've got two things to talk about. Herberts finger and Bagent*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 21:54:18
Watch the game. Or don't. But stay off Twitter.*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 21:47:50
First thing you should do is stop reading twitter
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 21:46:44
Fuck off*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 21:45:45
How can you let guys officiate a game who miss a simple grounding call?*
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Mrap24
October 29, 2023, 21:45:21
That's intentionally grounding. Come on*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 21:44:45
Right*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 21:45:08
how do you miss that grounding call?*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:44:37
Another great officiating display on national tv
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 21:45:04
that pass was a bit of a red flag. just didn't have enough zip to get it in there*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 21:41:51
He made deeper passes to the edge earlier*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 21:43:32
That's an incredibly tough throw & a great read & a pretty bad play call.*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 21:43:22
And they're moving the sticks if the receiver comes back for the ball.*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 21:43:47
you mean rb…*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:45:00
Why is Fields wearing sunglasses?*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 21:37:26
the sun never sets when you're cool*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 21:38:51
nice series kmet.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:30:29
Roschon gotta hit that hole man*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 21:29:52
TWSS
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 21:32:52
Such a terrible team
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 21:29:48
great to see the hits principle go to shit this year as well.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:28:38
The fuck was that punt formation? Why line a dude up 10 yards behind the LOS?
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 21:19:09
Wonder if the Vikings would make a trade for Fields. I mean they’ve gotta be looking to trade
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meanjeans
October 29, 2023, 21:17:54
tannehill?*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:19:43
Bears D: It’s me. Hi, I’m the problem, it’s me.*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 21:11:50
Herbert could throw for 500 yards tonight if he needed to*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 21:10:48
Was that not grounding at the end of the play? Shouldn’t the penalties offset?*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 21:08:10
I think Herbert stepped out of bounds before throwing so no grounding*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 21:09:36
ffs.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 21:07:48
this pretty much sums it up
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:56:54
That Eberflus D showing up*
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AintHatin
October 29, 2023, 20:45:43
it’s awful. back to taking nothing away.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:48:57
The Bears don’t even attempt to disguise their lame ass zone. So fucking predictable*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 20:45:36
It makes sense when you consider our coach is terrible at his job
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:48:47
TD, TD, FG, TD - close to a perfect half for the Chargers offense*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 20:45:16
Watching the Bears pass rush is hilarious. Same thing, play after play*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 20:43:16
This team is dreadful*
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opossum jenkins
October 29, 2023, 20:39:58
We are so bad.*
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Toonces
October 29, 2023, 20:39:56
Holy whiffed tackles, Batman
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:38:29
that and penalties have been the story of the game.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:49:34
Now the defense has to stop them twice before we get the ball back again.
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:34:53
So, yeah…*
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:44:14
Was Bagent’s dad wearing a rams hat?
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:34:27
Gotta be a Shepard Rams hat*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 20:37:18
Bagent’s college was the Rams. I assume it was that*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:36:34
Darnell Wright getting downfield*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:33:12
Kmet sealed off two guys as well*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 20:35:39
I’ve thought for a few weeks now that he is going to be good*
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NastyBoyd
October 29, 2023, 20:34:15
wright and jenkins look good, the rest of the line is a shit show*
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gvibes
October 29, 2023, 20:35:25
this.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:39:56
Generally agree- Davis when healthy is a pro
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NastyBoyd
October 29, 2023, 20:39:43
one armed road grader.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:33:36
Mooney wanted to throw that back to Bagent. That play is for Fields lol*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:32:38
wtf?*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:32:15
Come the fuxk om*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 20:30:42
Evraska WTF?
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:31:31
Yeah I didn’t want to chump it, but wtf?*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 20:51:04
They let Moore go longer than that two plays ago*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 20:29:34
quit blowing the fucking whistle!*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:30:29
#rogergoodellsnfl (autofill)
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:30:11
compare that play with the mcbride td in the cards game. unreal.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:31:29
So far there’s a lot more to take away from this game than last game for Bagent, IMO
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:26:28
Yeah I was hoping they’d open it up more this week. Guy make the throws and he can process
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:27:32
No doubt*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 20:27:30
No doubt*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 20:27:30
Agreed*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 20:26:51
Are we, uh, sure this Bagent kid can’t play?*
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opossum jenkins
October 29, 2023, 20:26:10
The youtube QB breakdowns folks were pretty glowing, I thought*
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gvibes
October 29, 2023, 20:34:53
I don’t think anyone is saying he can’t. We just need to see what he can do
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:26:57
That is a hell of a throw*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 20:25:50
i mean at what point does veius get cut?*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:25:26
This is the same group that traded for Claypool. So . . . Wide receiver evaluation is not their th
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LovetheChief
October 29, 2023, 20:35:43
In a competent organization…10 games ago
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:26:22
Oh good lord*
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Mrap24
October 29, 2023, 20:25:18
Velus Jones still being on this team is just criminal*
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OrangeSox
October 29, 2023, 20:25:13
THE ARISTOCRATS*
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VIV
October 29, 2023, 20:25:07
Velus Jones, everyone
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:25:04
LOL. That was so pitifull.*
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DocWalk20
October 29, 2023, 20:25:27
Get him off this roster*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 20:25:02
Oh my god*
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:24:58
he went out of his way to not catch that. scissor hands!*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:26:38
lol dude should have two TDs*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:24:53
What is this gibberish these people are talking about
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AintHatin
October 29, 2023, 20:22:27
Christ, I’m so sick of the “here’s how many QBs the Bears have played in X years” thing
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:21:49
No way. They should be forced to carry that until they do something about it*
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John Coctostan
October 29, 2023, 20:29:06
Truth hurts*
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bjl63
October 29, 2023, 20:25:39
I feel a rally coming on.*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 20:17:49
This defense reminds me of the Beckman game at Arizona State
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:13:03
Sounds like Moore and Mooney got crossed up on which route to run.*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 20:12:40
absolutely no pass rush*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 20:12:25
herbert is 14-14.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:13:48
At least we had that one play.*
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VIV
October 29, 2023, 20:10:37
Not sure who that was intended for. Looked he had two guys open*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:09:12
But he looked calm and poised while throwing a terrible pass*
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AintHatin
October 29, 2023, 20:10:45
I mean people here have excused way worse passes by Fields
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 20:19:46
lol have a sense of humor man*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 20:21:45
lulz*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 20:13:30
This is ugly.*
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Toonces
October 29, 2023, 20:09:01
lol yikes *
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 20:08:40
Wtf was that throw?*
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VIV
October 29, 2023, 20:08:25
Looks like he expected DJ to stop? But then two receivers would be in the area*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 20:09:50
Lukas Patrick shotgun snaps float far too often*
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OrangeSox
October 29, 2023, 20:08:05
One of the bears biggest needs this off-season has to be a C that isn’t terrible
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:09:17
Not going to get a contract extension that way, JJ*
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AintHatin
October 29, 2023, 19:59:13
he's average at best, but this defense needs more of those players.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:02:02
Shit sandwich*
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VIV
October 29, 2023, 19:57:52
If Mooney gets up and runs hard this game might have been fun *
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FidelGoodell
October 29, 2023, 19:57:09
The intensity of how he ran wasn’t why the play was whistled dead
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 19:58:09
Why didn’t flus challenge? Too busy preparing to call shitty d?*
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FidelGoodell
October 29, 2023, 19:58:57
Wouldn’t have been anything to challenge if the ref blew it dead*
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:01:17
The ref blew it while he was running down field. You can’t challenge for those yards? *
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FidelGoodell
October 29, 2023, 20:03:33
No because the defense has every right to stop playing when the whistle blows
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 20:04:21
He got more yards before whistle was blown *
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FidelGoodell
October 29, 2023, 20:07:27
not sure you can challenge a whistle, which is why these idiots shouldn't be blowing it
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 20:00:42
This game stinks.*
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Toonces
October 29, 2023, 19:51:58
as does edwards.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 19:55:00
As does Eberflus
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 19:55:25
As does Poles*
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LovetheChief
October 29, 2023, 19:56:45
It’s going to be 14-0 shortly.*
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AintHatin
October 29, 2023, 19:53:22
That tackle would be illegal under the proposed rule*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 19:51:27
yes.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 19:55:18
Wait, what?*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 19:52:30
There's been talk of making a "hip drop" tackle illegal, ever since mahomes missed a play
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 19:54:15
Thanks for the info. I would never look at that tickle and think “that should be illegal”*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 19:58:41
Just another bs attempt by the nfl to show they care about player safety
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 20:01:56
Valid*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 20:04:03
apparently the injury rate on them is very high.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 19:59:39
Interesting…that seems hard to call, but I can see the point *
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 20:03:22
Absolutely zero resistance on defense. Chargers just running drills.*
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 19:50:12
Clean and well-coached so far
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AintHatin
October 29, 2023, 19:47:25
well, this is starting to look more like the bears, especially with all of the penalties.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 19:46:50
That was a hell of a throw by Bagent*
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OB25
October 29, 2023, 19:45:27
He’s pretty impressive IMO. Has been since the preseason
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CanHartlebHireSnider
October 29, 2023, 19:51:07
Yep, really good*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 19:46:38
So the hand to the face before the hold was ok*
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PapaDels
October 29, 2023, 19:44:07
Just another solid game by the officials in Goodell’s nfl
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IlliniSax05
October 29, 2023, 19:45:35
nice tackle by edwards...*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 19:37:07
Edwards got clowned*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 19:37:04
Whitehair is an embarrassment*
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longsnapper
October 29, 2023, 19:29:10
Whitehair so bad*
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Orangeillini
October 29, 2023, 19:28:36
Ha*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 19:29:09
Whitehair is so damn bad*
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illini21
October 29, 2023, 19:28:36
such a shitty 2nd down play.*
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Ari Gold
October 29, 2023, 19:27:06
Again, why was that blown dead?*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 19:26:35
I’m very freaking confused *
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FidelGoodell
October 29, 2023, 19:27:27
And can’t the Bears challenge that and get the yards until the whistle blew?*
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Carl Spackler
October 29, 2023, 19:28:22
Would help if nbc acknowledged *
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FidelGoodell
October 29, 2023, 19:29:17
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