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Even if the ref made that call with all the best intentions…
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Posted by OB25
on April 5, 2024, 22:39:02, in reply to "
NCAA Women’s Final Four
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you really can’t find a call that would raise more questions for the conspiracy theorists out there. If you wanted to fix the game, that’s how you’d do it.
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NCAA Women’s Final Four
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 18:02:26
If you have WSJ access, be sure to read new feature on Dawn Staley - very nice*
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Potomac
April 8, 2024, 18:24:49
This is the good stuff
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John Coctostan
April 8, 2024, 9:51:18
Illini #25 in projected 2024-25 preseason rankings by espn.com person
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Potomac
April 8, 2024, 9:37:42
Need to find a Hobby replacement in the portal.
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larue33
April 8, 2024, 10:05:56
We have a McD AA coming too, correct?*
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bjl63
April 8, 2024, 9:38:18
Yes indeed. Berry Wallace*
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JacobRDaugherty
April 8, 2024, 9:40:22
Caitlin Clark brings out the worst in race relations in this country. On all sides*
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GMAW
April 7, 2024, 16:46:13
The ugliness of men's sports, and society in general, found a fresh new outlet this year.
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uofi1998
April 8, 2024, 10:58:13
Anyone who dares not calling her the GOAT RIGHT NOW
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bjl63
April 8, 2024, 9:44:13
Dawn Staley was right to say "one of the GOATs" - no reason to argue about one GOAT*
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Potomac
April 8, 2024, 9:50:19
Yup. Illini fans rooting for Iowa just because she’s white. Disgusting*
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HamptonSki
April 7, 2024, 18:23:12
The attempt at transgender gotcha question yday was pretty gross. Would presume nothing less
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UofIL6
April 7, 2024, 18:20:09
Glad no Lia Thomas situation in hoops yet*
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JeffFrank
April 7, 2024, 18:51:15
Dawn Staley nicely thanked CC for her contribution in the trophy award*
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Potomac
April 7, 2024, 17:12:15
Staley is awesome*
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GMAW
April 7, 2024, 17:46:54
My wife saw her speak & briefly met her at a leadership conference. She was really impressed.
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Chicago1995
April 8, 2024, 10:32:33
The hubris to think God chose them to win over Iowa*
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JeffFrank
April 7, 2024, 18:52:06
To be fair, I'm sure God hates those pig porkers as much as the rest of us. *
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Tuscy
April 7, 2024, 20:05:29
Agree. She’s really likable*
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John Coctostan
April 7, 2024, 18:23:49
My wife, uninterested in women's hoops, always roots for Staley (partly as a fellow UVA grad, too)*
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Potomac
April 7, 2024, 18:40:28
Especially when compared to Bobby Mulkey
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tvillini
April 7, 2024, 17:53:53
hmmm*
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suburbanmyth
April 7, 2024, 16:57:42
It’s horrible both ways*
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GMAW
April 7, 2024, 17:00:39
And by that I mean this: pretty much every stereotype that both liberals and conservatives have
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GMAW
April 7, 2024, 16:49:23
What prompted this response now?*
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opey8
April 7, 2024, 16:49:54
Just watching the commentary on TV and Twitter*
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GMAW
April 7, 2024, 16:59:15
Another not-quite- champions banner for the squawks*
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bbonb
April 7, 2024, 16:23:59
I was rooting for Kitt
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Stu
April 7, 2024, 16:31:35
51-29 on the boards. wow.*
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Ari Gold
April 7, 2024, 16:17:56
Fuck Iowa Always and Forever*
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HamptonSki
April 7, 2024, 16:16:28
Fuck Iowa Always and Forever and Purdue next*
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OWWDig
April 7, 2024, 17:51:42
Re: Fuck Iowa Always and Forever*
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Tuscy
April 7, 2024, 16:51:26
A million percent *
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digs
April 7, 2024, 16:18:40
It was weird rooting for them*
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JeffFrank
April 7, 2024, 16:18:01
Eff all of this God BS*
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JeffFrank
April 7, 2024, 16:16:19
Iowa going to lose
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opey8
April 7, 2024, 16:09:42
Paopao*
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CWR10
April 7, 2024, 14:57:44
Yeh SC is going to win*
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Stu
April 7, 2024, 14:42:25
18 in the first qtr for CC and you can’t hardly defend her better.
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PapaDels
April 7, 2024, 14:35:41
She wasn’t great after. 30 points on 28 shots*
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Mrap24
April 7, 2024, 16:16:33
Poor shooting for her in second half*
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Potomac
April 7, 2024, 16:10:07
Yep couldn’t sustain the blistering pace*
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PapaDels
April 7, 2024, 16:11:44
I should've told you guys I bet on a CC under, guaranteeing a great game for her*
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ghost_of_clt
April 7, 2024, 14:38:40
10 on SC is a monster*
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illini21
April 7, 2024, 14:32:34
Imagine if she jumped*
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Herman Blume
April 7, 2024, 14:36:20
I saw her elevate 6 inches for a rebound
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Stu
April 7, 2024, 14:37:13
Everyone should pity the UConn women
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Stu
April 7, 2024, 14:18:22
Obnoxious PA announcers not limited to the men’s game, I see*
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bjl63
April 7, 2024, 14:11:39
Gene Honda is offended by your post.*
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Illiniphil
April 7, 2024, 19:19:11
YOU RANG?????*
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PDO
April 7, 2024, 14:56:38
Diversity:
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JeffFrank
April 7, 2024, 13:55:03
Not all the refs are women this year*
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Potomac
April 7, 2024, 14:55:00
What is the misogynist complaining about here?*
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JacobRDaugherty
April 7, 2024, 14:34:52
White knight is here!*
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JeffFrank
April 7, 2024, 16:16:48
Lack of representation of creepy old white guys*
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Herman Blume
April 7, 2024, 14:37:08
Andraya Carter is good at her job
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apusikam
April 7, 2024, 7:53:39
How would USC and Iowa compete against a high level high school boys team?
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jfinsocal
April 6, 2024, 14:27:41
While I agree about size and athleticism, I wonder how much coaching, extra practice, and mentality
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ATL
April 7, 2024, 7:56:00
Very little*
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longsnapper
April 7, 2024, 7:57:00
Most boys teams would beat them
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illiniranger
April 6, 2024, 15:33:39
No question *
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bbonb
April 7, 2024, 12:38:34
This*
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Tooldresser
April 6, 2024, 16:25:46
Not to bring back the “team of Jeremy Shockey” argument…
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tvillini
April 6, 2024, 16:01:51
What of it was a team of Caitlin Clark's vs mini Ditka?
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illini222
April 7, 2024, 8:09:21
one on five?*
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apusikam
April 7, 2024, 8:18:12
Clark is 6-0, her team would get killed*
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UIHuskie
April 6, 2024, 16:10:32
One of those guys would be weak on defense and the CC going against him would eat.*
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Illini Guy
April 7, 2024, 8:21:23
A team of 6’2” D1 bound guards would all dunk the ball, dribble harder and stronger than Clark, and
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illiniranger
April 7, 2024, 8:24:26
No question on athleticism,
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larue33
April 7, 2024, 13:45:04
High school sophomore at our school ran a 51 second 440 in 1978
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jfinsocal
April 6, 2024, 14:55:18
Local soph here just ran incredible 45.19 400m - world women's rec is 47.60
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Potomac
April 6, 2024, 15:52:19
Damn - I ran a sub 57 once back in the day and thought I was cooking
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jfinsocal
April 7, 2024, 9:13:05
They (SC and Iowa) would destroy them (the HS team)
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IlliniSax05
April 6, 2024, 14:30:36
Maybe it could be close if the boys’ HS team wasn’t allowed to jump
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IlliniOllie
April 6, 2024, 20:20:11
Another example of this board’s horrible sports takes*
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Stu
April 6, 2024, 16:32:50
Is that longsnapper’s music I hear?*
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HamptonSki
April 6, 2024, 20:44:54
can someone do a wellness check on sax*
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suburbanmyth
April 6, 2024, 16:28:16
Iowa or SC wouldn’t get to 20 points
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bigbop85
April 6, 2024, 16:21:10
I would guess the opposite.
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Carl Spackler
April 6, 2024, 14:51:11
watch Sunday's final and see how little of the game is in the air*
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Potomac
April 6, 2024, 15:54:34
One year the coach of the girls' team at the high school asked if they could scrimmage...
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Tuscy
April 6, 2024, 15:28:13
I just looked at the rosters. What are USC and Iowa going to do to stop a 6-10 kid?*
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longsnapper
April 6, 2024, 14:43:24
Right. Like who’s checking morez on that Iowa team?*
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John Coctostan
April 6, 2024, 14:47:49
That’s kind of a funny visual*
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illini21
April 6, 2024, 15:20:37
Morez would have an 8” height advantage and maybe a 12” vertical advantage?
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Carl Spackler
April 6, 2024, 14:55:10
Sommerville from Richwoods would score 80
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ab75
April 6, 2024, 14:53:36
My nephew would probably do well too. He played Somerville tough when they matched up. *
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harb
April 6, 2024, 19:18:20
Was it a high school boys soccer team that beat the us women's national team?*
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longsnapper
April 6, 2024, 14:42:36
Basically, yes. FC Dallas U15's beat them 5-2*
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UIHuskie
April 6, 2024, 14:46:25
And physical advantage likely bigger in basketball.*
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ab75
April 6, 2024, 14:49:36
That's not remotely the same thing*
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UIHuskie
April 6, 2024, 14:40:48
I don’t think it’s remotely comparable to that question*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 6, 2024, 14:40:28
I think it depends on level … at the 3A supersectional
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ab75
April 6, 2024, 14:40:28
Even with the smaller ball, I would bet the #1 boys high school team would Beat USC or Iowa by 10.*
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longsnapper
April 6, 2024, 14:39:15
probably not very well*
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ECEIllinois
April 6, 2024, 14:29:29
Hi all. Just saw the controversial play and I’m wondering what the complaints are about.
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uofi1998
April 6, 2024, 9:57:19
To be clear, I haven’t don’t this nor do I have any interest in doing it. But I think that…
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OB25
April 6, 2024, 13:30:22
I watched most of the game. They did let them play. Clark was constantly getting mugged.
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tvillini
April 6, 2024, 14:30:51
It’s incredible this narrative exists. This isn’t a missed call. It’s clear as day. *
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uofi1998
April 6, 2024, 14:40:53
Pippen also fouled hubert
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ab75
April 6, 2024, 20:12:44
It’s just sour grapes. Tough beat, but the right call *
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uofi1998
April 6, 2024, 14:41:26
It’s the type of screen you see in officiating training videos for illegal screens.*
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ilinni11
April 6, 2024, 10:17:45
Oh, what do you know?! *
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Tuscy
April 6, 2024, 11:48:43
Nothing. Just ask anyone, officials are “the worst” *
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ilinni11
April 6, 2024, 12:14:42
only sportswriters are worse*
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suburbanmyth
April 6, 2024, 12:54:34
The two biggest differences vs men’s game I didn’t expect
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ab75
April 6, 2024, 9:38:14
Maybe I'm different than most, but I will never, ever understand the opinion that
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Wotcher
April 6, 2024, 8:04:28
Because it feels like a ref putting their finger on the scale
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 6, 2024, 11:20:08
Egregious no fouls called end of game Indiana St*
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JeffFrank
April 6, 2024, 12:52:56
OooO
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ilinni11
April 6, 2024, 9:14:42
I think the better question is, would anyone be talking about it if they DIDN’T call it?
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OB25
April 6, 2024, 9:00:31
We are still talking about the pick play that wasn’t called on Michigan in football*
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JeffFrank
April 6, 2024, 12:52:25
refs often let a game play out early, and then decide, and not just hoops
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Potomac
April 6, 2024, 8:53:19
Agreed *
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jdl
April 6, 2024, 8:48:01
As I said below, I can see people being upset if something was called on the other side of the court
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tvillini
April 6, 2024, 8:10:40
And the player using the screen is about to receive a pass to put up the game winning shot *
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meanjeans
April 6, 2024, 12:48:20
Here’s an even better look at it
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Herman Blume
April 6, 2024, 8:16:24
Exactly. How could you NOT call it? Regardless of the prior inconsistency in the game.*
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Wotcher
April 6, 2024, 8:20:17
That was an offensive lineman type move. *
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harb
April 6, 2024, 8:18:01
It's more about the consistency of officiating during the game. They were letting a lot of physical
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longsnapper
April 6, 2024, 8:08:34
Was it a foul? Maybe. Did I hate it called there? Absolutely. Bummer end to the game.*
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LovetheChief
April 6, 2024, 7:42:17
No maybe about it*
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cpsteine
April 6, 2024, 8:43:31
Good effing riddance UConn
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Stu
April 5, 2024, 22:50:32
I am enjoying how the women’s college basketball mediasphere is like 75% UConn grads
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illini
April 6, 2024, 6:51:04
Mostly I hate them because they run the score up on putzy teams
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Stu
April 6, 2024, 9:56:50
If Iowa wins on Sunday, the reaction is going to be insufferable.
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GMAW
April 6, 2024, 7:50:10
fuck*
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 22:59:57
The zoomed out look of the call is much more favorable to the refs.
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Carl Spackler
April 5, 2024, 22:50:30
Wow, yep.*
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cpsteine
April 5, 2024, 23:01:43
That’s a foul. Period*
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GMAW
April 5, 2024, 23:00:43
Yeah, I don’t even see how it’s really debatable.
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tvillini
April 5, 2024, 22:56:23
It’s not. But clowns gonna clown when it comes to blaming officials*
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ilinni11
April 6, 2024, 0:39:56
You might be able to get away with the forearm / shoulder if you’re standing still
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meanjeans
April 6, 2024, 0:17:19
The argument seems to be “you can’t call that there.”
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tvillini
April 6, 2024, 6:36:36
I have no doubt it’s a foul by the letter of the law. You just don’t see it called especially there
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:55:35
I can’t pretend to have watched the game closely enough to know how it was called.
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Carl Spackler
April 5, 2024, 22:59:13
I watched the whole game, and consider the calls erratic
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Potomac
April 6, 2024, 6:25:44
It was called like UI/UConn. Nothing was a foul*
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GMAW
April 5, 2024, 23:01:35
That call feels a lot like holding in a football game*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 5, 2024, 22:58:21
Even if the ref made that call with all the best intentions…
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:39:02
Yeah that's a whole different look. Way worse *
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
April 5, 2024, 22:40:29
Muhl rose to the game; Paige needed to be better*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 22:37:16
Paige agrees with you….
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PapaDels
April 6, 2024, 8:57:00
Thanks for posting that. Nicely said by her.*
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Potomac
April 6, 2024, 9:07:12
Muhl was incredible*
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GMAW
April 5, 2024, 22:44:09
Muhl was a real workhorse*
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Stu
April 5, 2024, 22:45:45
She put the whole team on her back*
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cpsteine
April 5, 2024, 23:02:46
Definitely carried the load for them*
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Herman Blume
April 6, 2024, 7:24:15
I will say, I am routinely impressed with the angles and spin women’s players get off the backboard*
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Blazer
April 5, 2024, 22:36:08
Yeah but many of those shots would be swatted into the third row
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jfinsocal
April 6, 2024, 14:24:41
They might as well have judges hold up cards with who they want to win instead of playing the game*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 22:33:16
Gonna have to work awfully hard to prevent South Carolina from bullying them.*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:34:29
She doesn’t have to win. Just has to get to the final game. *
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illini
April 5, 2024, 22:35:38
True*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:36:00
UConn had so many chances *
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 22:33:06
So bad*
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 22:32:43
Some weird shit going on with the clock in the last seconds too*
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Blazer
April 5, 2024, 22:31:51
is the ncaa in the room with you right now?*
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 22:33:19
LOL, what a horrible end to this game. Fuck off refs
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IlliniSax05
April 5, 2024, 22:31:15
lol at that move by Clark*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 5, 2024, 22:31:11
She should have pulled the Scottie and grabbed it inbounds*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 5, 2024, 22:31:37
I actually think it was a foul. But it hasn’t been called all game. *
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illini
April 5, 2024, 22:31:02
I don’t watch much women’s. But that call is rarely if ever called with 4 seconds left*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 5, 2024, 22:33:16
It's never called with 2396 seconds left*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 22:34:03
Plays that look like that get called all the time.*
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cpsteine
April 5, 2024, 23:04:50
It's a clear foul *
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larue33
April 5, 2024, 22:31:27
What game are you all watching?? 100% the right call. It's EXACTLY the same call
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Wotcher
April 5, 2024, 22:31:00
We usually complain when player’s feet are moving*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 22:35:08
Her stance was too wide and she shoved with her arm. It's either a foul or it isn't...
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Wotcher
April 5, 2024, 23:01:52
This whole bracket seemed scripted and that was the culmination. Wow*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:30:43
Reffing is hard
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ISeeDeadHawkeyes
April 5, 2024, 22:29:29
You make that call when you’re looking to make a call*
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CWR10
April 5, 2024, 22:31:17
It's not hard. That's inexcusable*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 22:30:34
Holy Christ that was bad*
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 22:30:33
Wow. Fuck these refs*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 22:28:53
Wow, national semi and you call that *
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 22:29:38
That is the fucking worst*
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 22:28:47
lol, fix is in*
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Blazer
April 5, 2024, 22:28:24
Oh man that’s weak*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 5, 2024, 22:28:07
Look at the view on Ant Wright’s Twitter. I think the call was good*
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GMAW
April 5, 2024, 22:34:04
Women's basketball officiating is next level bad and inconsistent*
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illini222
April 5, 2024, 22:28:56
That was a “the NCAA needs CC in the title game” call
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IlliniSax05
April 5, 2024, 22:28:36
The only possible conclusion*
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Blazer
April 5, 2024, 22:29:25
Wtf was that arena music before the inbounds? Just let the moment breathe*
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RVA
April 5, 2024, 22:27:04
wtf was that?*
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CanHartlebHireSnider
April 5, 2024, 22:26:15
I watch this but still have 0 interest in WNBA*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 22:18:37
Well the WNBA sucks*
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illinilosch
April 5, 2024, 22:26:35
Clark is incredible but she’s in the bad body language hall of fame
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CWR10
April 5, 2024, 22:11:40
didn’t even try to contest that shot *
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 22:24:32
On that last TO while her teammates had their hands in CC had already walked off
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IlliniSax05
April 5, 2024, 22:22:10
Haha what the hell was that*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:09:04
Clark’s push off or her dive?*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 22:09:59
Good guesses, but I was going with the beginning of the shot clock 30 foot three point attempt*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 22:10:53
No shot by CC is a bad shot*
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GMAW
April 5, 2024, 22:18:22
I’m sorry but lolololololol at that shot*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 22:08:38
I’m not a women’s bball fan but we get it, man*
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Blazer
April 5, 2024, 22:10:57
You right. My bad*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 22:14:54
Anyone know where to watch out of country? I have broadcasting rights stuff w ESPN*
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ck
April 5, 2024, 22:05:16
That was the worst shot I’ve ever seen*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 22:00:04
“I think it might be the nose”
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 21:57:42
No one gonna tell these announcers that she just needed a new contact?*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 21:57:35
Ok I’m the dumb one, bloody nose I guess?*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 21:57:59
Most mens CBB is bad. This is…something else*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 21:55:02
There's such a wide talent gap between the top handful of players and the rest*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 21:56:34
I still love the sports theater of this but god bless the people that actually watched the WNIT*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 21:58:17
Geno is not a guy you want to root for*
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cpsteine
April 5, 2024, 21:51:44
Disagree*
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 22:01:57
Your opinions are the worst*
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Stu
April 5, 2024, 22:38:24
I hope they win*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:59:18
These refs are a fucking joke.*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 21:49:36
Paige doesn’t get the star treatment *
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:50:54
Yeah, bad *
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cpsteine
April 5, 2024, 21:50:21
So bad. So many wrong and missed calls.*
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LovetheChief
April 5, 2024, 21:50:02
For the most part it seems like they are doing everything they can to get Iowa in the final, but…
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 21:51:50
10 from UCONN has been incredible defending Clark. Top notch.*
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LovetheChief
April 5, 2024, 21:48:35
Uh oh, dead if she is out*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:55:49
It's nice to know that officials are terrible in all sports. What a joke*
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longsnapper
April 5, 2024, 21:46:11
ESPN much better at showing foul replays than CBS *
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:47:32
lol these layups are hilarious*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 21:41:05
Paige may be the only one with a real pull-up jumper with some elevation
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:44:36
This game is kinda bad*
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ilinni11
April 5, 2024, 21:44:13
Gabby Marshall tho *
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 21:35:34
Great defensive game plan by UConn *
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 21:18:45
Agree - they look like a better team*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:20:01
The call to the refs came down from above*
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 21:14:25
Iowa has been terrible and UConn can’t pull away*
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GMAW
April 5, 2024, 21:14:04
So, uh, this is kind of a disgraceful effort by Caitlin Clark, no?
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 21:03:48
Maybe I just haven’t watched enough, but the amount of times she doesn’t even run back on defense…
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OB25
April 5, 2024, 21:42:09
Something about UCONN and shutting down B1G superstars.*
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Illini Guy
April 5, 2024, 21:13:26
That's pretty much her MO, no?*
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opey8
April 5, 2024, 21:09:32
It sure is. If she’s not shooting well then forget about everything else*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 21:22:22
Mentally weak equals not GOAT
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opey8
April 5, 2024, 21:24:52
Iowa as a turnover machine*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 21:02:31
Red hair on South Carolina is kinda cute*
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illini21
April 5, 2024, 19:37:03
death by snu snu *
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 19:40:22
Q3 reminds me of a certain 30-0 run*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 19:31:20
welp*
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 19:30:52
Still instant mute on that horrible auto tune ad*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 19:22:35
10 on SC looking like the female Zach Edey*
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 18:37:37
Good game so far*
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 18:27:42
I am dialed in
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bbonb
April 5, 2024, 18:25:47
I am praying South Carolina loses*
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JeffFrank
April 5, 2024, 18:18:06
no change *
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biclops
April 5, 2024, 19:31:09
...why?*
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opey8
April 5, 2024, 18:25:32
Jeff just likes to pray*
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Stu
April 5, 2024, 18:47:42
NCSU has a younger roster.*
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JFG
April 5, 2024, 18:45:56
Is this the first time that two schools have made both final fours?*
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ATL
April 5, 2024, 18:10:02
It's never happened before*
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Vandy
April 5, 2024, 18:19:11
NY Times story today about Vanderbilt hitting $100K / year*
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Potomac
April 5, 2024, 19:02:09
Yeah, saw that. Good article, but the headline is naturally a little misleading
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Vandy
April 5, 2024, 19:52:23
Was wondering the same *
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PapaDels
April 5, 2024, 18:14:26
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