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Snapper's hot take of the morning:

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 7:16:36

There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Lots of puns, no real answers

Absolute nosign...some tinting is crucial in AZ. Full tint is, and should be, illegal*

Posted by Desert <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Desert' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 16:49:20, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

I had an ex who had lupus and needed window tint for medical reasons.*

Posted by Franklin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Franklin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 12:18:16, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Hey Snaps! Heads to DM this weekend to see Zach Bryan!*

Posted by DiamondDazzle <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DiamondDazzle' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 12:16:33, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

My vehicle has tinted driver & passenger front windows. Came that way, I didn't have it done.

Posted by EffinIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=EffinIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 11:56:12, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

And I don't really want to pay to have them un-tinted.

It's a Jeep that's stock in every other way, so I assume it was done at the factory. It is nice on sunny days, but I do hate it during the evening.

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Juice Newton's Angel of the Morning*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 11:51:55, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

my life is nothing I thought it should be and everything I was worried it would become

Spoiler: Every window has tint to some extent.*

Posted by MojoJojo <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MojoJojo' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:45:41, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

every rose has its thorn

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 11:46:03, in reply to "Spoiler: Every window has tint to some extent.*"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Every dog has it's day*

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 11:48:51, in reply to "every rose has its thorn"

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Lots of puns, no real answers

agreed, also can we get rid of front license plates?*

Posted by bigbop85 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bigbop85' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:05:47, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

whats the issue there?*

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:42:53, in reply to "agreed, also can we get rid of front license plates?*"

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every car looks better without a license plate in the front?*

Posted by bigbop85 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bigbop85' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 14:57:57, in reply to "whats the issue there?*"

It makes cars look stupid*

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Lots of puns, no real answers

maybe you're not buying the right cars*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 12:19:24, in reply to "It makes cars look stupid*"

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Do any cars look better with a front license plate?*

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Have you ever tried finding your Uber in a non-front plate state?

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 11:56:48, in reply to "It makes cars look stupid*"

Terrible experience.

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cars look stupid because they have a stupid looking design

I've never once thought "that car would look so cool if it weren't for the license plate on the front"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Have had my car for nearly five years, no front plate. No ticket yet*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:05:19, in reply to "agreed, also can we get rid of front license plates?*"

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15ish years ago, someone backed into my car hard enough to cause the front plate to fall off.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 12:48:45, in reply to "Have had my car for nearly five years, no front plate. No ticket yet*"

Only two/tree days later, parked on my street outside my apartment, ticket for no front plate.

Got it fixed ASAP

I know someone that got a ticket yesterday/today for this, FWIW*

Posted by reggiedunlop <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=reggiedunlop' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 11:46:29, in reply to "Have had my car for nearly five years, no front plate. No ticket yet*"

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In conjunction with a parking ticket? Or another ticket if some kind?*

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Lots of puns, no real answers

I got a warning once, but he warned me about a bunch of stuff.

Posted by Illiniphil <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Illiniphil' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:24:37, in reply to "Have had my car for nearly five years, no front plate. No ticket yet*"

Window tint too dark, no front plate, speeding 5 over (by the time he clocked me), and a registration issue that wasn't my fault.

I think if the registration issue hadn't happened, he wouldn't have even written me a warning.

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I got a ticket for going 4 over in Michigan last summer. lol*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:42:05, in reply to "I got a warning once, but he warned me about a bunch of stuff."

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apparently missouri requires front license plates. i've had my car without one for 3 years*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:08:39, in reply to "agreed, also can we get rid of front license plates?*"

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

What if two migrants commit a vehicular crime and you only witness it from the front? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:07:30, in reply to "agreed, also can we get rid of front license plates?*"

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I only see that as a problem for another 7 months, so I'm willing to risk it*

Posted by bigbop85 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bigbop85' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:19:23, in reply to "What if two migrants commit a vehicular crime and you only witness it from the front? *"

disagree. also like adding a strip to the windshield. makes a huge difference*

Posted by lcubed <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=lcubed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:10:15, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Same. But I don’t go over the legal limit on the front door windows like some peeps do. *

Posted by harb <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=harb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:20:15, in reply to "disagree. also like adding a strip to the windshield. makes a huge difference*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

[Assassin] Harb is the epitome of a Goldfish Troll.
[Opey] Assholes gonna asshole
[tiki] #### all the way off with that, you bloodthirsty hilljack.

Tell me you live somewhere without sun without.... *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 7:46:50, in reply to "Snapper's hot take of the morning:"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Ceramic tinting helps with keeping car cooler, with windshield the biggest area for heat*

Posted by Savoy <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Savoy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:54:48, in reply to "Tell me you live somewhere without sun without.... *"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

That’s why he said it was a hot take.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:11:01, in reply to "Ceramic tinting helps with keeping car cooler, with windshield the biggest area for heat*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

but wouldn't tinting affect visibility in low light?

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:59:29, in reply to "Ceramic tinting helps with keeping car cooler, with windshield the biggest area for heat*"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Yep and can reduce fuel consumption when it's hot (or even just sunny) outside.*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:58:21, in reply to "Ceramic tinting helps with keeping car cooler, with windshield the biggest area for heat*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

Yeah, I'm going to have to see the math on this. It would have to so marginal

That it would be unnoticeable*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Lots of puns, no real answers

I officially call bullshit:

According to anyone accommodated with selling it installing tints day is absolutely true. Even though it makes no sense.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tinted+windows+fuel+efficiency

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That it would be unnoticeable*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Lots of puns, no real answers

I suppose the argument is that running your AC reduces your fuel efficiency

so if the interior of your car is cooler you're not running your AC as much and thus you're saving your fuel efficiency. but it's likely such a small impact that you wouldn't really notice it, nor would it really save you much money unless you drive your car for, like, 30 years.

I have no numbers to prove or disprove that

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Guessing for ICE vehicle, not significant, but it is for EVs it is. .

Posted by Savoy <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Savoy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:08:10, in reply to "I suppose the argument is that running your AC reduces your fuel efficiency"

Speaking from my own experience, noticed observable differences before and after tinting in my EV (which is like a greenhouse with the glass roof). I can monitor energy usage in real time and it was 10-15% difference in range before and after tinting. This was in May when heat was not as bad. Guessing the spread was bigger in the middle of the summer.

For EVs it's almost a requirement for ceramic/carbon tinting. Guessing a few get it for the looks, but most of those EV drivers have it tinted to reduce heat and save previous kWhs from AC usage.

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Why would it be different for EVs?*

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Not an engineer nor do I pretend to be one but. .

Posted by Savoy <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Savoy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:40:05, in reply to "Why would it be different for EVs?*"

My best hypothesis is that EVs are designed to be more efficient in energy usage. The EV will only draw what power it needs so nothing is wasted to the point energy is even generated when you slow down/brake. Heck (maybe marketing gimic), but with EVs they even look at weight and rolling resistance with the tires.

With a ICE vehicle, I think the engine is designed to run everything without strain and outside of active fuel technology (cylinder management) that engine is going to continue to produce x amount of energy and if some of that energy is not used, it's wasted (ie not turning on the AC). Guess the ICE engine will allows generate more power than the vehicle actually needs.

I monitore MPG in my diesel truck and hardly notice ANY difference when I have the AC on vs. off. The ambient temperature is probably a bigger factor.

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Do you have evidence to the contrary, or just your feels? *

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According to anyone accommodated with selling it installing tints day is absolutely true. Even though it makes no sense.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tinted+windows+fuel+efficiency

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That it would be unnoticeable*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Fortunately, I understand math and math doesn't care about my feels. Also,

Tinted windows can't provide more than a marginal increase in fuel efficiency. Further, it in no way offsets the increase in risk that tinted windows interested to pedestrians and other drivers at night.

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According to anyone accommodated with selling it installing tints day is absolutely true. Even though it makes no sense.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tinted+windows+fuel+efficiency

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That it would be unnoticeable*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Lots of puns, no real answers

You keep invoking math, but the only math you've presented so far is zero, as in zero facts. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:26:08, in reply to "Fortunately, I understand math and math doesn't care about my feels. Also,"

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According to anyone accommodated with selling it installing tints day is absolutely true. Even though it makes no sense.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tinted+windows+fuel+efficiency

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That it would be unnoticeable*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

I found an old reddit post with some estimates

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:29:37, in reply to "You keep invoking math, but the only math you've presented so far is zero, as in zero facts. *"

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/6r7vld/do_tinted_windows_improve_gas_mileage/

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Assuming the math checks out, it's a 2% fuel economy improvement. Nothing to sneeze at.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:51:38, in reply to "I found an old reddit post with some estimates"

He's dragging the OP because the fuel economy improvement doesn't fully pay for the tinting. But people get tinting for a variety of reasons - aesthetics being the primary reason. The side benefit of a fuel economy improvement is nice too.

"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

Not enough to offset increased risk to others, though. And with modern cars

That increase in efficiency is closer to 1%.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Risk to others? Got any more math? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:10:57, in reply to "Not enough to offset increased risk to others, though. And with modern cars"

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That increase in efficiency is closer to 1%.

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Man the apple news must have really made you cranky today. But,

Tinted windows not only reduce the visibility of the driver in the car, it makes it harder for pedestrians and cyclists to make eye contact at intersections and cross walks.

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That increase in efficiency is closer to 1%.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

So that's a no on the math? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:41:36, in reply to "Man the apple news must have really made you cranky today. But,"

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Tinted windows not only reduce the visibility of the driver in the car, it makes it harder for pedestrians and cyclists to make eye contact at intersections and cross walks.

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That increase in efficiency is closer to 1%.

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70% < 100% *

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Tinted windows not only reduce the visibility of the driver in the car, it makes it harder for pedestrians and cyclists to make eye contact at intersections and cross walks.

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That increase in efficiency is closer to 1%.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

I don't think there's a huge risk to others unless you go really deep. When I had my car tinted

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:09:59, in reply to "Not enough to offset increased risk to others, though. And with modern cars"

I only had the windshield lightly tinted but it made a huge difference in heat in the car without deteriorating visibility.

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That increase in efficiency is closer to 1%.

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"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

Ha, I was just working that out. So, thank you*

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https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/6r7vld/do_tinted_windows_improve_gas_mileage/

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And can help prevent one arm getting more tan than the other. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:59:35, in reply to "Yep and can reduce fuel consumption when it's hot (or even just sunny) outside.* "

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Are sunglasses not widely available?*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Lots of puns, no real answers

And who are these people who leave the house without sunglasses?!?! *

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:59:12, in reply to "Are sunglasses not widely available?*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Will wearing sunglasses make the whole car stay cooler? *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:12:09, in reply to "Are sunglasses not widely available?*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

No but make you look cooler. Maybe*

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Lots of puns, no real answers

Only if you're timmer in oakleys*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 8:36:00, in reply to "No but make you look cooler. Maybe*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

I have two pairs of Oakleys that I love. They're great for cycling and baseball. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:23:34, in reply to "Only if you're timmer in oakleys*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Poor Timmer just out here catching strays*

Posted by Phytynlini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Phytynlini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:16:15, in reply to "Only if you're timmer in oakleys*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

Nah, if you wear Oakleys you get what you get.

Posted by Illiniphil <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Illiniphil' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 10:25:25, in reply to "Poor Timmer just out here catching strays*"

I don't want ski goggles for sunnies.

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

I said he looked cooler.*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 24, 2024, 9:49:18, in reply to "Poor Timmer just out here catching strays*"

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There's no reason a civilian vehicle needs tinted front windows, and I assume everyone who has them is a huge douche bag.

"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

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