R&E Political Discussion 2025: This was a good discussion before you chose ad hominem insults.

The essence of capitalism is creating value for others. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 9:36 am

I think of the benefit as a by-product. - GOG August 5, 2025, 7:37 am
That seems to be more of the "ideal" of capitalism ... but I think the often reality is ... - Mondo Fuego™ August 4, 2025, 1:35 pm
Socialists think that wealth is like a pie. There's only so much of it to go around, and so... - CE0802 August 4, 2025, 10:37 am
- Ah so therefore massive hoarding of wealth isn't a problem since the pie is unlimited. - Just the facts August 4, 2025, 12:55 pm
  - Exactly. Consider yourself schooled. - CE0802 August 4, 2025, 6:26 pm
- Wealth is created by society, and workers - cheezitp August 4, 2025, 12:05 pm
- History is no friend of socialists. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 11:30 am
  - Just imagine if Mamdani gets elected and gets his way. - CE0802 August 5, 2025, 5:37 am
    - AMEN!!!! - Deanna August 5, 2025, 7:13 pm
    - That's just racist. - cheezit August 5, 2025, 9:01 am
  - Nazi Germany's ruling party... - 7:77 August 4, 2025, 12:48 pm
    - A "Marketing Tool"? Kinda like how Leftists now us the term "Progressive". - Cheap Seats Shaman *= August 4, 2025, 1:38 pm
    - They seized private businesses and enslaved employees. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 1:21 pm
      - They were Fascists, like Trumpers. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:36 pm
        
        This was a good discussion before you chose ad hominem insults. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 3:52 pm
        
        Greenie’s only talent. Myopic paranoid lefty. - GOG August 5, 2025, 10:53 am
        
        Like you, she is a lying extremist. - cheezit August 5, 2025, 12:57 pm
        
        If you're not a Trumpster, my apologies. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 4:02 pm
      - Which private businesses were those? - 7:77 August 4, 2025, 1:37 pm
        
        The Nazi’s seized Jewish businesses through a process called "Aryanization." - Arwen August 4, 2025, 1:42 pm
        
        Yes, I'm aware of that. - 7:77 August 4, 2025, 3:01 pm
        
        I don’t pretend to be an expert on the Nazi mindset. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 3:23 pm
        
        It's authoritarianism. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:38 pm
        
        Of the fascist variety. - 7:77 August 4, 2025, 3:41 pm
        
        Yes, the National Socialists were certainly fascist in nature. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 3:56 pm
        
        Indeed so...far more than they were "socialist." - 7:77 August 4, 2025, 6:46 pm
        
        Missing the point on purpose, I see. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:59 pm
        
        My point was succinct and clear. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 4:04 pm
        
        Your fake intellectualism is obvious. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 4:45 pm
        
        If you can’t have a discussion without invoking logical fallacies, why are you here? - Arwen August 4, 2025, 4:53 pm
        
        Link to alleged 'ad hominem?' - cheezit August 4, 2025, 4:59 pm
        
        Here is but one glaring example… - Arwen August 4, 2025, 5:10 pm
        
        You're confused. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 5:22 pm
        
        So if you were not addressing me, instead of the argument, who were you addressing? - Arwen August 4, 2025, 5:35 pm
        
        What was the 'argument?' - cheezit August 4, 2025, 5:48 pm
        
        I am neither Abbott nor Costello. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 6:01 pm
        
        Agreed - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:43 pm
    - Exactly right. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:51 pm
      - ...or you, for that matter. - Cheap Seats Shaman *= August 4, 2025, 1:56 pm
  - A-hahahahaha! - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:08 pm
    - Looting and plundering are historical functions of totalitarian states. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 12:27 pm
      - Yes, true - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:45 pm
      - Last time I checked, looting and slavery were illegal in modern capitalist systems - Stoogie Enturbulator August 4, 2025, 12:30 pm
        
        Slavery still exists in capitalist aocieties. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:54 pm
        
        The appropriate answer would be - Stoogie Disrupter August 4, 2025, 3:43 pm
        
        Kinda defeats your purpose to link with an openly socialist website... - Cheap Seats Shaman *= August 4, 2025, 1:47 pm
        
        Slavery cannot exist in a true free market system. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 1:35 pm
        
        And yet, it did for many years. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:40 pm
        
        If slavery exists, it is not a true free market system. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 4:55 pm
        
        Ah, the old fallacy - cheezit August 4, 2025, 5:01 pm
        
        By definition, slavery cannot exist in a free market. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 5:06 pm
        
        Why was my post taken down here? - cheezit August 4, 2025, 5:24 pm
        
        Who knows, but…. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 5:58 pm
        
        And I'm telling you that it DID - cheezit August 5, 2025, 6:19 am
        
        Greed is dealt with quickly and effectively in the free market. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 12:41 pm
        
        I have to disagree here - trish August 5, 2025, 5:51 am
        
        You are correct - John Capone August 5, 2025, 5:59 am
        
        Greed is the basis of free-market capitalism. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:47 pm
        
        Greed and selfishness are part of human nature, not a basis for capitalism. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 1:30 pm
        
        Greed is not the basis for Capitalism - John Capone August 5, 2025, 6:08 am
        
        Both are true. - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:42 pm
        
        No system is perfect given the human factor - Stoogie Enturbulator August 4, 2025, 12:44 pm
Ah..so wonderfully naive - cheezit August 4, 2025, 10:30 am
- The pirates ship is captained by politicians who love to buy votes with other people’s money. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 11:23 am
  - You're not wrong about that, of course - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:10 pm
    - Pirates confiscate the wealth of those who earned it. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 12:32 pm
      - 'Earned' it? - cheezit August 4, 2025, 12:49 pm
        
        Yes, Musk earned it by creating value for millions of consumers. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 1:17 pm
        
        What does that mean? - cheezit August 4, 2025, 3:49 pm
Great point - Dara August 4, 2025, 10:24 am
- Hi, Dara. - Arwen August 4, 2025, 11:14 am

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