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R&E Political Discussion - Spring 2026
[ R&E Political Discussion - Spring 2026 ]

Otto Kleinberg: "Atta did NOT have pilot license."

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 23, 2026, 6:54 am

The Internet is full of references proving that Mohamed Atta had a pilot license issued by the FAA, including the 9/11 Commission Report.

Otto is victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

People who act like they know it all often suffer from insecurity, a need for control, or cognitive biases, most notably the Dunning-Kruger effect, where limited competence leads to overestimating ability. They may use this persona to mask feelings of inadequacy, appear superior, or cope with low self-esteem.

Key Characteristics and Causes:

Dunning-Kruger Effect: Incompetence in a field prevents them from recognizing their own lack of expertise, leading to unwarranted confidence.

Illusion of Information Adequacy: They often make fast decisions based on limited information, assuming they know the full picture.

Narcissism or Insecurity: Some exhibit Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) traits (grandiosity, lack of empathy), while others are overcompensating for deep-seated insecurities.

Need for Control: An attempt to dictate, control, or maintain a sense of power in their environment.

Naïve Realism: The belief that their personal perception is objective reality.

Behavioral Traits:

Dismissive Attitude: Unwillingness to listen to others or accept different viewpoints.

Constantly Correcting Others: Often interrupting and providing unsolicited, sometimes wrong, information.

Need for the Last Word: Often, this behavior is designed to win arguments rather than find the truth.

Management Strategies:

Don't Take it Personally: Understand the behavior is a defense mechanism and not a reflection of you.

Set Boundaries: Gently steer conversations or limit interaction to maintain your own peace.

Avoid Arguments: Since they rarely listen to opposing views, engaging in debate is often futile.

Hello, Otto!

This also applies to Lucky, CHE, Chico and KR. Perhaps they should attend group therapy.

LOL

Re: Otto Kleinberg: "Atta did NOT have pilot license."

Posted by Otto Kleinberg on April 23, 2026, 7:48 am, in reply to "Otto Kleinberg: "Atta did NOT have pilot license.""

This fits Mondo and Arwen.

People who act like they know it all often suffer from insecurity, a need for control, or cognitive biases, most notably the Dunning-Kruger effect, where limited competence leads to overestimating ability. They may use this persona to mask feelings of inadequacy, appear superior, or cope with low self-esteem.

Hold on there, asshat, pay attention ... Dunning-Kruger effect applies to you.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 23, 2026, 2:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Otto Kleinberg: "Atta did NOT have pilot license.""

It is empirically verifiable from your long history of fallacious, anti-social, boastful, vitriolic, misogynistic, vulgar posts here and elsewhere.

No, it applies to you and Arwen

Posted by Otto Kleinberg on April 23, 2026, 5:46 pm, in reply to "Hold on there, asshat, pay attention ... Dunning-Kruger effect applies to you."

two disgusting human beings.

So, Mike…evidently logic and reason is “disgusting.”

Posted by Arwen on April 23, 2026, 8:11 pm, in reply to "No, it applies to you and Arwen"

And your misogyny, vulgarity, and dishonesty is not.

Your family must be proud of you.

Are you sure you want to go there, Mike?

Posted by Arwen on April 23, 2026, 12:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Otto Kleinberg: "Atta did NOT have pilot license.""

I certainly don’t know it all. I originally came here with the hope of engaging in civili discussion and learning about other viewpoints. I challenge my own philosophy with logic and reason and do the same when challenging opposing viewpoints. By doing so, I learn which is important to me.

Few here are interested in civil discourse.

But here is what I do know:

You have no interest in logic or reason. Your posts are replete with logical fallacies, vulgarity, and misogyny. That is your choice.

You have been banned here for such, but use several handles in a blatant attempt to avoid detection.

You have shared a lot about yourself here and other boards. That is common behavior for insecure braggarts. We know your name, your former business, your party registration, your claim to not have voted in decades, and your drinking habits. That information and other information was shared voluntarily without prompting.

Your reference to me in this post is clear evidence that I live rent free in your head. This is another indicator of deep seated insecurity.

Make better choices and stop blaming others for your limited competence.

TIA

I doubt anyone uses their real name on these boards.

Posted by Otto Kleinberg on April 24, 2026, 5:54 am, in reply to "Are you sure you want to go there, Mike?"

Oh, but we know all about MileyRug and his conflicting stories about wealth, neighborhood, wine etc.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 24, 2026, 10:47 am, in reply to "I doubt anyone uses their real name on these boards."

His greatest achievement, something for which he is known worldwide, is his awesome financial ability to fill his gas-guzzling V-8 pick'um'up truck with Sunoco 94 and put the charge slip in the console without looking at it.

Ozymandias

By Percy Bysshe Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Smart people don’t.

Posted by Arwen on April 24, 2026, 7:03 am, in reply to "I doubt anyone uses their real name on these boards."

But even dumb people, once they realize their mistake, are smart enough to use other handles, thinking they are fooling somebody.

I don't know what your problem is

Posted by Otto Kleinberg on April 24, 2026, 7:29 am, in reply to "Smart people don’t."

but my name is not Mike.

You and Mondo are nothing more than troublemakers.

Both victims of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Re: "I don't know what your problem is" ... that's because there is no problem to know.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 24, 2026, 12:48 pm, in reply to "I don't know what your problem is"

There ... I have solved your dilemma. Now, go have an enema.

I don't have a problem.

Posted by Arwen on April 24, 2026, 8:01 am, in reply to "I don't know what your problem is"

You are a victim of your own poor decisions.

If exposing your dishonesty, misogyny, and vulgarity is causing you trouble, then stop doing it.

Wow !!! Ha Ha Ha

Posted by Otto Kleinberg on April 23, 2026, 7:42 am, in reply to "Otto Kleinberg: "Atta did NOT have pilot license.""

A swing and a miss ! Try again….

No, it was "SPOT ON", and you know it.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 23, 2026, 2:45 pm, in reply to "Wow !!! Ha Ha Ha"

December 2000

Posted by Trish on April 23, 2026, 8:37 am, in reply to "Wow !!! Ha Ha Ha"

Hush, Large Mouth Bass.

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 23, 2026, 2:43 pm, in reply to "December 2000"

If the Clinton admin had been paying attention instead of forcing his sexual misconduct on a White House intern and lying about it and getting impeached, he might have tuned into the terrorist chatter at the time and given Bush a heads-up. Together, those two inept dunces might have been able to figure out what was coming down.

Did he or did he not get his pilot licence in 12/20?

Posted by Trish on April 24, 2026, 2:37 pm, in reply to "Hush, Large Mouth Bass."

That was the only point being questioned.

not the rest of your gobbilty gook

I confirmed that in an earlier post, asshat. What's your point?

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 25, 2026, 2:45 am, in reply to "Did he or did he not get his pilot licence in 12/20?"

Atta did all his training to get a pilot license on Clinton's watch.

Here's what I posted on April 21. Try to keep up.

Atta's pilot training & FAA license was in 2000

Posted by Mondo Fuego™ on April 21, 2026, 1:55 pm, in reply to "Atta did NOT have pilot license"
This from 9/11 Commission Report and elsewhere:

December 19, 2000. Atta and Shehhi took their commercial pilot license tests at Huffman
Aviation, completing their schooling. Atta received a score of 93 in 116 minutes and
Shehhi received a score of 73 in 99 minutes.

Atta entered the United States on June 3, 2000. He and Shehhi soon enrolled in flight school in Venice, Florida. Atta spent six months earning his pilot's license in December 2000. (On Clinton's watch)

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