I am glad to agree with you Sarge. I hoped that you would find that interesting. It would certainly make me motivated to attempt making my own rolling stock should the chance arise. I don't agree with Freds evaluation either. I would be more than happy to buy Sams ten quid wagons if and when I can work out how to make convincing private owner liveries. Ever since boyhood I longed to make my own, advertising products I was familiar with like Saxa Salt, Cadburys, Bisto etc. I'm sure there must be a masking technique that allows you to do so but my brush painting isnt up to it and I cannot figure out how transfers would work over uneven surfaces.