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Here's some more rightist media with facts that will likely not be disputed. Posted by TW on August 4, 2025, 12:04 pm Valued Poster Disputed with any meaningful evidence anyway. Hamas propaganda wouldn't be considered meaningful considering their record for telling the truth ever. BTW, by and large, most National Review writers don't care too much for Trump either. They are pretty good at printing the facts though. Trump Is Right to Point the Finger at Hamas for Gaza Woes By: The Editors From the start of Israel’s war against Hamas, there have been dire warnings of imminent famine in Gaza that have proven false. In November 2023, just over a month after the October 7 massacres, United Nations World Food Programme director Cindy McCain told CBS that Israel’s effort to destroy Hamas had already put Gaza “on the brink of famine.” By February 2024, no famine had occurred, but the United Nations put out a statement claiming that “at least” 576,000 Gazans, or about a quarter of the population of the strip, were “one step away from famine.” A few months later, two U.N. agencies warned that “over one million people — half the population of Gaza — are expected to face death and starvation (IPC Phase 5) by mid-July [of 2024].” Israel’s many enemies have a huge incentive to promote the idea that Israel is using starvation as a tool of warfare. The New York Times, along with most major media outlets throughout the world, turned a photo of a skeletal toddler in Gaza, Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, into a rallying cry against the supposed Israeli policy of starvation. But the outlets did not report that the boy was born with a muscular disorder, which helped explain his sickly appearance, and they did not print part of a photo that showed his healthy-looking brother beside him. Days after the deception was exposed, the New York Times, which ran the photo on the front page, quietly updated the story, but only after the original photo had been spread around the world. All that said, it does appear the humanitarian situation has now become more serious. Amit Segal, an Israeli journalist who has been skeptical of prior claims of mass starvation, has pointed to research showing the rising price of flour in Gaza and concluded that this time, “Gaza may well be approaching a real hunger crisis.” Other credible sources have concluded the same. Even facing a hostile population, Israel has gone to incredible lengths to try and help feed Gaza. In terms of sheer amount of supplies, it’s an effort on par with the Berlin airlift. The current operation, though, has faced barriers created by the United Nations and Hamas. When the U.N. and its affiliated groups were in charge of food distribution, its supplies routinely ended up in control of Hamas, which hoarded aid for its own fighters and also sold it on the black market to raise money for its war against Israel. Israel, seeking a way to get aid directly to the people without inadvertently helping to fund the terrorist group, helped put together the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation along with the United States. In the face of many challenges and threats from Hamas, the group has distributed about 100 million meals since launching in May. The new system for distributing food has created a cash crunch for Hamas, which is now struggling to pay its fighters. However, despite its efforts, GHF was never intended to completely replace all food distribution programs, only to supplement them. Unfortunately, because the U.N. refuses to cooperate with the GHF, it has at times allowed hundreds of truckloads’ worth of aid to pile up inside Gaza without distributing them. As David Makovsky, a scholar at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, has pointed out, according to its own data, when it has made deliveries in recent months, an incredible 87 percent of U.N. trucks have been “intercepted” — i.e., looted either by people seeking aid or armed gangs seeking to steal the aid. The U.N. has cited this as a reason why aid has been allowed to pile up undelivered at times, though it also has opposed the IDF protecting the routes. There have been incidents in which the IDF has fired warning shots to disperse mobs surrounding aid trucks, resulting in casualties. This has been used by Israel’s critics to make the unfounded claim that Israel is using the promise of aid as a trap to purposely kill off civilians. Hamas, meanwhile, has long demonstrated that it is willing to put its own population at risk knowing that the world will always blame Israel for any suffering that occurs. It’s telling that as international criticism of Israel spiked over starvation claims, Hamas dug in further in cease-fire negotiations, rejecting a deal that would have freed the hostages and put both sides on a path to ending the war. There is no reason for Hamas to make concessions if it believes deteriorating conditions in Gaza will force Israel’s hand without the terrorist group having to do anything. The U.K., in a statement on Tuesday, threatened Israel with recognizing Palestinian statehood at the U.N. in September if things don’t change. Why would Hamas negotiate if it believes it can hold out a bit longer and advance the cause of Palestinian statehood, which its leaders have spoken about as an intermediary step in their efforts to eliminate Israel? Also on Tuesday, the Arab League, for the first time, condemned the October 7 attacks and called on Hamas to give up its arms and release all the hostages, albeit with the usual poison pill of a Palestinian state and a “right of return” to Israel. Trump, who is clearly growing frustrated and angry about the conditions in Gaza, has been right to forcefully speak out against moves to reward Hamas by recognizing a Palestinian state, and to point the finger where it belongs. On Thursday morning, with his envoy Steve Witkoff in Israel for talks about a cease-fire and the situation in Gaza, Trump posted on Truth Social: “The fastest way to end the Humanitarian Crises in Gaza is for Hamas to SURRENDER AND RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!!!” If the rest of the world were to echo this statement, rather than attacking Israel, there’d be a better chance for a deal to end the war and allow more aid to reach the people of Gaza. Source: https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/07/trump-is-right-to-point-finger-at-hamas-for-gaza-woes/ Corroborating links at the sourced site. Some of those links: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/gaza-starvation-photos-tell-a-thousand-lies-palestine-israel-aid-1d689cc8 https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-finances-fighters-payments-gaza-f98df760? https://x.com/davidmakovsky/status/1950541391114739857?s=43

So WHY are Israeli soldiers shooting people who are lined up for food??? Posted by Sia on August 4, 2025, 3:12 pm, in reply to "Here's some more rightist media with facts that will likely not be disputed." ADMIN Israel IS starving Gaza. They have prevented supplies being delivered there for months at a time. Then letting some few and claiming that Hamas stole them. Hey, maybe do/did. It wouldn't surprise me at all. However, the Palestinian people are suffering! Aid agencies report that aid can't get through and their people being killed while delivering supplies. Are they liars too? Israel is hardly blameless. Hamas too. But innocent children, women, old folks are ALL paying the price!

I don't believe they are. It has been reported that they've fired shots in the air Posted by TW on August 4, 2025, 4:37 pm, in reply to "So WHY are Israeli soldiers shooting people who are lined up for food??? " Valued Poster to dissuade looting. I think it has been reported that Hamas has posed as Israelis soldiers for propaganda purposes. That Hamas has even shot their own people. Which would not be a surprise. Allah sorts it all out and those shot and killed get an early trip to paradise.

Ph? So Hamas has multiple stolen uniforms that they wear to shoot at Palestinians in public?? Posted by Sia on August 4, 2025, 11:23 pm, in reply to "I don't believe they are. It has been reported that they've fired shots in the air" ADMIN REALLY??

I don't know. That's just what I've read and/or heard. It's not rocket science to sew up some Posted by TW on August 5, 2025, 9:21 am, in reply to "Ph? So Hamas has multiple stolen uniforms that they wear to shoot at Palestinians in public?? " Valued Poster cloth so it looks like Israeli uniforms.

It's OK to criticize Israel. Posted by greenman on August 5, 2025, 6:11 pm, in reply to "I don't know. That's just what I've read and/or heard. It's not rocket science to sew up some" Valued Poster I just don't understand why some can't do it. I've been critical of their actions since 1980, since the invasion of Lebanon and the murders at Sabra and Chatila camps. I realized then that they weren't God's Chosen.. -greenman

A huge mob of Israeli protesters did that in Tel Aviv Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 12, 2025, 1:36 am, in reply to "It's OK to criticize Israel." ADMIN Looked like a crowd of several hundred thousand people, a week ago last Saturday. Seems they detest the Netanyahu government too. But with rigged elections, they can't seem to get him out. Sound familiar? Our free press covered none of that, nor the even larger protest in Los Angeles. Why not? You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

If they weren't covered, where did you get the information? Posted by Sia on August 12, 2025, 2:02 am, in reply to "A huge mob of Israeli protesters did that in Tel Aviv" ADMIN Not being a smart-arse, but genuinely curious.

First saw it Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 12, 2025, 3:33 pm, in reply to "If they weren't covered, where did you get the information?" on Meidas Touch. Ben Meiselas is usually incredibly slow and boring to bring out a story. It may take him two minutes to say something he could have said in twenty seconds, and his monotone drone almost insufferable. But he covered the protest in LA and Tel Aviv and alluded to social media carrying what the network news does not or will not, in what appears to be a shift in network news. The fact so much network news was bought by mega billionaires and are not reporting these protest stories indicates owner intent to influence, undoing the time tested traditional job of these organizations to report the facts, and let readers or watchers make our own decisions. Essentially they are becoming what the felon accused them of for years; producers of fake news, which also appears less caustic and problematic for the felon. For what purpose? To curry his favor? For quid pro quo? To fly under the radar, out of sight, and off his hit list target? The line of truth under this policy and intent has become razor thin and largely firstly or only available on social media, from direct recording by observers who happen to be there at the right place and time to capture imagery and allow it to speak for itself. It's like a fog of war moving in, where even the ground upon which we stand is uncertain. You can alamost feel the fog of war moving in. I believe Chris Hayes may have mentioned the big protest. I went to the local protest, and it was as big as the No Kings Day event. There was no news coveragv of it at all. Didn't even get mentioned. Our media leans conservative. Their parent companies do too. The protests are seen more as a liberal agenda, and less as a national agenda, when in fact they are greatly national. People from all walks appear at these protests, and the common theme is lawlessness of the felon in the White House. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Still odd that no one in the Substack groups (major players from old media who Posted by Sia on August 12, 2025, 8:35 pm, in reply to "First saw it " left the NYT, WaPo, and others when the owners of their outlet made decisions to kill stories). Now free to call the shots on their own, THEY break news stories all the time that legacy media ignores or barely touches. So I find it troubling that one guy is peddling stories that new, unleashed media hasn't. It could be accurate or it may not be when only one outlet or reporter is peddling it. How reliable is your guy if you do a deep search on his reliability (Google his truthiness scores) to see where he lands. There is always a story behind why some events don't get much legitimate, new or old school media attention. Usually it's because it isn't verifiable.

There were absolutely huge protests a few months back Posted by greenman on August 13, 2025, 9:14 am, in reply to "Still odd that no one in the Substack groups (major players from old media who" Valued Poster I saw them briefly mentioned, but the largely pro-Israel, AIPAC-influenced U.S. media don't like to criticize 'Yahu. They're scared of the Trump regime, and being targeted (like Universities) on fake charges of 'anti-Semitism.' https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339490/israel-protests-netanyahu-hostages-gaza-war That was in March.. -greenman

Yes, but I thought Pikes meant this month Posted by Sia on August 13, 2025, 11:31 am, in reply to "There were absolutely huge protests a few months back" ADMIN

Here's one I don't think I saw Posted by greenman on August 13, 2025, 11:33 am, in reply to "Yes, but I thought Pikes meant this month" https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/thousands-rally-tel-aviv-against-netanyahus-new-gaza-plan-demand-release-2025-08-10/ -greenman

Yes! That's the one in Tel Aviv Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 13, 2025, 2:05 pm, in reply to "Here's one I don't think I saw" ADMIN The protest in LA was even bigger, two weeks ago Saturday. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Yeah, it raises many questions Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 13, 2025, 1:07 am, in reply to "Still odd that no one in the Substack groups (major players from old media who" ADMIN I don't fall for biased stories. I don't know what you mean by substack, but if that's basic social media news enabled by the many platforms, this was that. Lis our local protest was well attended, but not even mentioned on the news. Just like the massive ICE raid two weeks ago. It's almost like somebody wants to suppress things, and keep people in a controllable dark. No doubt we're in unfamiliar, unpreecedented, uncharted times, and there isn't much about which people are certain, or can be certain. The LA and Tel Aviv protest stories may have appeared elsewhere and I missed them. Lis, I think we're being enveloped in a fog of war, of which nothing is certain. AI is already hugely compromising reality. I'll tell you this. I am truly frightened. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

I have also noticed…. Posted by Skye on August 13, 2025, 10:09 am, in reply to "Yeah, it raises many questions" Valued Poster that there is a lack of news coverage here in MO. I’ve been to protests here that get no news coverage. It truly is frightening. You have described it well. It’s as if there is a conspiracy between certain “leaders” to carve up territories, wealth and demographics to their own liking. They will weed out the undesirables… ie those who don’t kowtow or fit in with their preferences or image of perfection. It is genocide in more ways than one. Or eugenics? Perhaps Hitler had the right idea after all? They will ‘clean’ the homeless off the streets as they are planning to do in DC now. Perhaps some truly believe they are doing God’s will… making the earth a paradise for God’s chosen people?? To see the oligarchs gather at the inauguration as they did…. These people are monsters. Sick and dangerous monsters. They don’t care how many protest or who gets hurt. They will just alter and take over the press and institutions to create the “alternative truth” and reality that they desire. They don’t even care about making money or their customers anymore. They already have more money than they could ever spend. They want to create their ‘paradise’ now, and to do that, they will have to clean out the undesirables… which could very well end up being people like you and me. Thus the lack of news coverage.

I could go to one of these protests and not come home Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 13, 2025, 2:33 pm, in reply to "I have also noticed…." Some might say it's a chance like being struck by lightning. Ordinarily unlikely. But if you go to a summit or ridge in an electrical storm, you just upped the odds a few thousand times. Go to a protest with ICE present and be hit by a bullet. Struck by a club or some other object. Be struck by a rock. Be surrounded and thrown into a paddy wagon because I am in the wrong place at the wrong tine, and my sign stands out as a more serious threat, because you know it and I are different, and I "disappear." Because I was yelled at by law enforcement and while trying to comply, it changed its mind because I was not complying, or complying fast enough, so I get beaten, arrested, wagoned, and disappeared? Me, a US citizen, composer of all this "Americana" music about the finest and best of our country, representing us and that on stage, arrested and disappeared because I am opposed to this felon and the mob of stupid, organized crime that used to be the GOP Republican Party? They clearly put their Republican Party over and above country. Blood is thicker than water, and bvllsh!t is thicker than either. Bullsh!t flows in their veins, from their faucets, and mouths. I am really sick of the so called Christian man who defends this felon. Take the Epstein files. Felon and lawyers moved to release Grand Jury dox. The judge said no because he lacks the authority, so felon et al blame him. He was clear, that findings of the grand jury tried and convicted Epstein and Maxwell of rape, sexual assault, sex trafficking of minors, and only needed two cases to secure those convictions, and names NONE of the client participants, or others possibly guilty of crimes, like child rape. This grand jury report the felon and his liars say will clear all, doesn't contain any information about the hundreds, maybe thousands of other victims of this decade long crime spree. The felon is attempting to confuse the public about the Grand Jury findings, and the Epstein files which are SEPARATE and DIFFERENT dox! The felon's name is likely all over the files as an unindicted criminal client, preferred customer, frequent flyer... participant seeking and using the Epstein Maxwell business for his fun and pleasure, at the expense of young women and children. He and many others. He and they named Clinton. So what? We want them ALL released! The so called Christian men who seem to put sexual sin highest priority in their religion and faith, and in the laws passed controlling it, are the worst hypocrites in defense of this felon, Maxwell, and the list of clients among whom their POTUS king is not only part, but likely a protagonist! A reasonable person would look at that and conclude the Christian faith is a sham, fraud, and scam because no more glaring, blatant hypocrisy is possible. Do I resent that? You bet your sweet bippy- enough so I am out there when ever possible, protesting and putting myself in harm's way so maybe a bolt of lightning, like an arrest, or beating, or disappearance can open up, expose, and tell a truthful story. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Indeed Posted by greenman on August 13, 2025, 5:26 pm, in reply to "I could go to one of these protests and not come home" Valued Poster Trump is the enemy of America. Defenders of Trump and Trumpublicanism? Likewise. -greenman

As the spin spins Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 5, 2025, 3:06 am, in reply to "Ph? So Hamas has multiple stolen uniforms that they wear to shoot at Palestinians in public?? " It appears a report surfaced about an Israeli plan to release a limited number of crocodiles into the Jordan, with intent to discourage Palestinian "theft" of water for essentials like cooking and bathing. The Israel government already has a "crocodile farm" established for this purpose. Timing of this discovery considering the notorious American Alligator Alcatraz is suspicious. Alligator Alzatraz is located in a portion of the Everglades where the American crocodile exists. These animals are larger, more powerful, and more dangerous than alligators. The American crocodile is comparable to the Nile crocodile, which is also the animal Israel has in its breeding facility for possible use in Jordan River security. TW, your shameless persistent defense of the felon's policies and allies not only indicates your susceptibility to cult leadership and pressures, but the likelihood you will need some kind of "deprogramming" when this madness is finally over. There is nothing conservative about policies of the felon, his attached male anglerfish, Authoritarian of Israel, or you. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

I'm not sure what all you think I'm defending. I don't care for Trump as a Posted by TW on August 5, 2025, 9:38 am, in reply to "As the spin spins" Valued Poster person at all. I'd have to say he has accomplished some good thus far, and there's a lot of what he's doing that the final verdict is still out on. Trump is not a conservative. He's more like a Democrat in many ways. Don't judge me just because I prefer him over the vacuous and empty-headed Kamala. I didn't like either of them, but it was what we were stuck with. Both parties screwed up royally when they left us with those 2. The Democrats are tanking now like they've never tanked. So I guess attacking Trump is all you are left with. You certainly cannot tout the Democrats in any way, shape, or form at the present time. I've got no problem with some of the attacks on Trump. The unhinged stuff is over the top. But I guess I understand it.

I'm not sure what you think you're defending. Posted by greenman on August 10, 2025, 2:01 pm, in reply to "I'm not sure what all you think I'm defending. I don't care for Trump as a" Valued Poster Point-by-Point: 'I'd have to say he has accomplished some good thus far, and there's a lot of what he's doing that the final verdict is still out on.' -name one 'good thing' which Trump has accomplished, please. So far he has been DISASTROUS. Trump is not a conservative. He's more like a Democrat in many ways. - He's not not remotely 'like a Democrat.' He's pro-rich, pro-tax cut, pro 'law n' order,' anti-immigrant, pro 'defense,' anti-spending. How is that 'Democrat?' Don't judge me just because I prefer him over the vacuous and empty-headed Kamala. I didn't like either of them, but it was what we were stuck with. Both parties screwed up royally when they left us with those 2. - Kamala Harris wasn't my choice either. I wanted to vote for Biden. But how in HELL donyou vote for a guy who, lying about the 2020 election, used a mob to TRY TO OVERTURN IT?? The Democrats are tanking now like they've never tanked. So I guess attacking Trump is all you are left with. - I don't know what that gibberish means. 'Tanking?' for a better draft choice? That's stupid. And while we justly criticise Trump's criminality, you DEFEND it. Who's worse again? You certainly cannot tout the Democrats in any way, shape, or form at the present time. I've got no problem with some of the attacks on Trump. The unhinged stuff is over the top. But I guess I understand it. - I support any Democrat over ANY Republican, becauee the latter are Trump's party and enemies of this country. If you were smarter or a real American, you would KNOW this. However, you are brainwashed. We're not. -greenman

Can't even imagine.... Posted by Skye on August 10, 2025, 3:55 pm, in reply to " I'm not sure what you think you're defending. " Valued Poster what good can come from Trump and Putin meeting on US soil. As far as I can tell, Trump has long been a Putin asset. Putin will play him like a fiddle. Trump is a disaster alright. How any American or world citizen in their right mind could defend him is beyond me.

Sell Alaska back to Russia in exchange for the felon getting Greenland? Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 10, 2025, 9:50 pm, in reply to "Can't even imagine...." Why is the felon walking out on the White House roof? To show people he wants to impress how much he owns? Because he wants nukes there, just in case? No. It's a place to throw people, like under a train, under a buss, under a truck, out of a window. The White House isn't high enough to certainly kill. A victim will probably suffer in lingering pain before dying, and the felon might want to watch that. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Speaking of throwing people.... Posted by Skye on August 11, 2025, 12:41 am, in reply to "Sell Alaska back to Russia in exchange for the felon getting Greenland?" Valued Poster I recall being told about certain religious and political leaders who were thrown out of windows in Prague back in the middle ages... known as "defenestration." Interesting history... hmmmm The Defenestrations of Prague, 1419 and 1618: Political Assassinations by Throwing People Out of Windows That Sparked Wars https://vocal.media/history/the-defenestrations-of-prague-1419-and-1618-political-assassinations-by-throwing-people-out-of-windows-that-sparked-wars

A convenient form of murder Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 11, 2025, 5:17 pm, in reply to "Speaking of throwing people...." "What happened?" "He slipt." Meanwhile Don Junior posted this Funny, huh? We have a lawless potus transitioning to dictator, and a GOP consolidating power to make it a permanent fascism. We no longer live in a democracy. The shift happened, and for most it was relatively painless. The real pains come later, when we're too weak to do anything about them. The felon didn't do this. We did, and he was there to capitalize on it. Massive protests occurred in US cities. LA appeared to have a million people downtown a week ago Saturday. Where was the free press? By not reporting this, they make it seem like the protests went away. Is this the corporate owned media doing the felon a favor and his bidding? Why? Because he might censure and kill them, because apparently he can? You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Depressing Posted by Skye on August 11, 2025, 10:12 pm, in reply to "A convenient form of murder" Valued Poster I still can’t even believe that this is where we are, but here we are. I don’t know that we will ever have fair and free elections again. I’m sure they are working hard to make sure that they are rigged, even as they accuse the opposition of the same. Just makes me want to cry.

Throwing sex toys onto WNBA courts at players Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 12, 2025, 1:32 am, in reply to "Depressing" ADMIN drew attention of the juvenile minded POTUS' even more juvenile minded son, who then posted the meme of his fathers tossing the same down onto a WNBA game laid over the former Rose Garden. The WNBA said they permanently ejected and banned fans who threw toys on the court at the players. The felon ordered the National Guard into DC to take over local police duties, not because it is an emergency, but because he can. He says crime in DC is up, while stats say it is not, and in fact dropped sigvnificantly. Texas (Abbott, Paxton, Cruz et al), Louisiana (Johnson), Alabama (Tuberville), Florida (DeSantiset al), Missouri (Hawley et al), South Carolina (Graham), and Ohio (Jordan) all have much higher crime rates than DC. The felon said he's tough on crime. That's why the 6 January insurrectionists were all pardoned. That's why child rapist, molester and sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell was movewd to the soft, luxury facility in Texas where she can wait until the felon feels a pardon is safe. Friday a man shot up the CDC headquarters in Atlanta, firing more than 180 rounds into the building. One Atlanta policeman died. HHS and CDC head Robert F Kennedy posted photos from his fishing trip. Today he sort of offered a condolence of some kind to the slain policeman. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Trump is the dildo America tossed onto the court. Posted by greenman on August 12, 2025, 5:05 pm, in reply to "Throwing sex toys onto WNBA courts at players" Valued Poster And he's tossed a few onto the Supreme Court himself, obviously. -greenman

It is a sick country we live in right now! Posted by Sia on August 12, 2025, 2:06 am, in reply to "Throwing sex toys onto WNBA courts at players" ADMIN I wondered what that stupid djt on the roof sex toy meme was about. He needs to stay the hell out of blue cities. He is violating state's rights and the constitution.

Controllling the narrative. Posted by jacque on August 12, 2025, 1:53 am, in reply to "Throwing sex toys onto WNBA courts at players" Valued Poster Every administration has had an impact on 'News' outlets. Since Bush/Clinton era cable/talk-radio to other media has developed and transformed information propagation exponentially. Certain topics/issues get muted and other amplified per administration. Generational gaps are closed and expanded simultaneously at light speed. The illusion of a US democratic republic is being exposed almost in real time for all. But many ignore it. It's still a worthy ideal it just needs to adapt and evolve. don't stop. live long and prosper as best you can Jacque

Bread and circuses.... Posted by Skye on August 13, 2025, 12:01 pm, in reply to "Controllling the narrative." Valued Poster As long as people have their sports, entertainment and 'cake' to eat, they won't even notice what is really going on, until too late. Perhaps what we need is another writers' strike, and sports strike. Of course that won't happen, as long as they are paid well to keep up the distractions.

How else.... Posted by Skye on August 7, 2025, 1:16 am, in reply to "I'm not sure what all you think I'm defending. I don't care for Trump as a" Valued Poster are we supposed to judge you but by your own words? Speaking of "vacuous and empty-headed"....

The felon is more like a Democrat than a conservative? Accomplished some good? Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 5, 2025, 3:34 pm, in reply to "I'm not sure what all you think I'm defending. I don't care for Trump as a" Harris was and is not vacuous. Neither is Walz. I listened to the substance of what they said, just as I listened to the Felon. He has done zero good for the country. He has done massive harm to the country. He left Biden with a $4.5 trillion deficit. Biden's budgets reduced that deficit to $1.2 trillion. The felon's BBB adds $4.5 trillion back to the current deficit. He and Musk reducted spending through DOGE, gutting and firing SPECIALISTS. It is said the felon wants to replace those specialists with loyal sycophants who will cut corners and cook numbers to make the felon look good. All have at a bare minimum, to be trained, and that is costly down time. Once they know their jobs, they will still function in a slow mode as they won't be fully familiar or competent. Worse is their supervisors won't know either because they're all new too. This is the perfect model for INEFFICIENCY! Don't you get that? The felon went bankruot six times; last resolved in 2016 just before he announced his presidential intentions. Of course he announced that then, because he was essentially BROKE. The presidency not only became his next grift, but he was handed in thanks to his corrupt SCOTUS immunity from prosecution in which he can and will hide indefinitely because he considers everything he does as official presidential duties. His taking sh!ts in the morning is immune! That's how he, a lifeflong criminal and convicted felon views it. You cannot possibly be more mistaken in your assessment of this problem. The felon's firing the Stats director because he didn't like the numbers, and called them fake, is the worst yet, because if he gets his way, in order to look good, his departments will produce false data that puts every other American business at risk. Do you have the slightest clue how businesses will respond to false data on which their corporate plans are based? They can't be sure of anything! This is equivalent to driving an Interstrate blindfolded. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

He made a huge mistake firing Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of Posted by TW on August 5, 2025, 5:24 pm, in reply to "The felon is more like a Democrat than a conservative? Accomplished some good?" the Bureau of Labor Statistics. At the outset it sounded wrong to me and consequently after reading numerous articles, many in National Review, I found that there is quite a bit of consensus on that action. Trump screwed up in the opinions of most. A snip I found that was excerpted from the Wall Street Journal, written by columnist Allysia Finley. Mr. Trump sniffs a deep-state conspiracy. “Today’s Jobs Numbers were RIGGED in order to make the Republicans, and ME, look bad,” the president huffed on Truth Social. Where’s the evidence? There is none. The BLS commissioner has traditionally been a nonpartisan post, and the Senate confirmed Ms. McEntarfer 86-8 last year. Yet Mr. Trump asserted, again without evidence, that Ms. McEntarfer “faked the Jobs Numbers before the Election to try and boost Kamala’s chances of Victory” and revised down the numbers after the election by 818,000. Also false. The truth is that the jobs numbers have become more volatile in recent years because of declining business survey response rates. It’s similar to the problem political pollsters face getting representative samples. And Mr. Trump’s trade and immigration policies may be making monthly data less reliable. It helps to understand how the BLS produces its monthly jobs report. The bureau surveys some 631,000 workplaces by a variety of media, including phone, web and even fax. Many businesses don’t respond every month, but the BLS continues to collect data and revise its findings over the next two months. The survey’s overall response rate has declined to 43% from 60% before the pandemic, and small businesses are less likely than bigger ones to respond, especially in the first month. The jobs estimate can also be off in either direction by 136,000 in any given month because of statistical chance. Such variations tend to even out over several months. As is readily apparent, Trump attacks anyone not promoting the Trump agenda. Whether it makes sense or not. One of many reasons I have no use for the man. On the rest of your post, we'll just have to disagree in many instances.

What's the difference between debt and deficit? Why does it matter? Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 6, 2025, 4:33 pm, in reply to "He made a huge mistake firing Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of" ADMIN Why did the deficit during Obama and Biden shrink, and during Bush II and the felon grow? Republicans cut revenue, not spending. The felon is the worst. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

It's a Republican strategy. Posted by greenman on August 11, 2025, 12:35 pm, in reply to "What's the difference between debt and deficit? Why does it matter?" Valued Poster Cut taxes (mostly on wealthy) Watch deficit zoom Blame 'Liberal tax-and-spend' Try to win next election(s) Use deficit to justify gamesmanship over budget Lose election, rinse, repeat (continue to blame Dems) -greenman

They address the deficit by causing it Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on August 11, 2025, 3:53 pm, in reply to "It's a Republican strategy." Then they switch words to debt, either because they don't know the difference, or believe Americans they represent, don't. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Excellent description! Posted by greenman on August 11, 2025, 5:57 pm, in reply to "They address the deficit by causing it" Valued Poster -greenman

On this thread, you're defending Israel? Posted by greenman on August 5, 2025, 11:35 am, in reply to "I'm not sure what all you think I'm defending. I don't care for Trump as a" As they commit genocide. I object to that. -greenman

Who cares what you believe? Posted by greenman on August 4, 2025, 8:17 pm, in reply to "I don't believe they are. It has been reported that they've fired shots in the air" Valued Poster You will not condemn the Israelis NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. And I'll bet that's been true since 1980.. -greenman

Gaza's 'woes' started back before Israel was a nation. Posted by greenman on August 4, 2025, 12:30 pm, in reply to "Here's some more rightist media with facts that will likely not be disputed." Valued Poster Naturally, lying Zionists want to make it about 'Oct. 7,' as if that event started EVERYTHING, and hope that by constantly calling Hamas 'terrorists' they can excuse their own oppression and atrocities. Of course Hamas sucks. All they do is start mini-wars and get their people killed, then whine and sob to the int'l community. Trump, like most America Presidents, takes Israel's side. This is a mistake we've made since 1948. -greenman

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