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A Bleak Future for Israel

Posted by Maestro on 10/24/2025, 9:40 am

I was happy to read that three of my favorite actors are speaking out against Israel. Link Below.

More and more people, including US Jews, are in agreement with them. Israel and AIPAC's influence are waning.

A Washington Post poll found that 61% of US Jews believe Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza, and 39% say it is committing genocide. Among the broader American public, 45% told the Brookings Institution they believe Israel is committing genocide, while a Quinnipiac survey in August found half of US voters share that view, including 77% of Democrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/22/jewish-notables-open-letter-un-sanction-israel?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

Here is why this world is not my home (Link)

Posted by theone on 10/24/2025, 11:48 am, in reply to "A Bleak Future for Israel"

""""I was happy to read that three of my favorite actors are speaking out against Israel""""

And I wasn't happy to read that there are prominent "Muslim" figures across the world who have publicly voiced support for Israel include Irshad Manji, Salim Mansur, Enes Kanter, Abdurrahman Wahid, Reza Pahlavi, Mithal al-Alusi, Kasim Hafeez, Abdullah Saad Al-Hadlaq, Zuhdi Jasser, Asra Nomani, and Khaleel Mohammed. This is intriguing when you see Jewish ppl fighting for the Palestinians.

I didn't know before that "Muslim Zionism" exist. Now of course there are thousands of Muslims who share the same views as those prominent Jewish figures who are calling on the United Nations and world leaders to impose sanctions on Israel over the genocide in Gaza,..but then you also have these "immoral" Muslims who are of the same mind with Netanyahu, his cabinet, and all the bigoted Ashkenazi Zionists in Israel.

Unlike PPl who love to focus on the righteous Jews who defend the Palestinians, I like to focus on the wicked Muslims who defend the Israelis. Its fairplay!

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Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)

Posted by reporting gm on 10/24/2025, 2:23 pm, in reply to "Here is why this world is not my home (Link)"

😆🤣😂😹....Lawwd, he can't stop!
He takes every criticism of Israel personally and I can't help but wonder why?

Mr TheOne, Israel is committing a genocide against an indigenous people and theres no justification, NONE! So stop trying to justify it with your sly disruptions. And frankly, you're not good at it!
Also, if a post gets you upset, SIMPLY IGNORE IT and move to a different thread or post.

btw, do you remember when I posted about a book called HITLER'S JEWISH SOLDIERS? Do these sellouts justify the holocaust? NO!

Again, I'm begging you to stop your disruptions. It's plain to see what you're doing and it's childish!

Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)

Posted by theone on 10/24/2025, 5:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)"

""""btw, do you remember when I posted about a book called HITLER'S JEWISH SOLDIERS? Do these sellouts justify the holocaust? NO!""""

G, you're soo sick man and makes me laugh LOL. Dude, for the last freeaking time, I am not exposing these wicked Muslims who support Israel in order to JUSTIFY THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA, and despite all these past warnings you keep going at it saying the same crap. I'm only exposing this minority of Muslims because perhaps many(including yourself) are not aware of their existance, kinda like the same way you posted about a book called Hitler's Jewish Soldiers that perhaps many of us weren't aware of their existance. Except these Muslims should be called Netanyahu's Muslim Soldiers since they voiced their support for Israel. ANd these Muslims I've posted about are not even Arabs, most of them are Pakistanis, Indonesians, one is Italian(Muslim) others are Indians etc. I bet you didn't even read the LINK, but you were quick to pass your "immoral" judgement. You're the only one on this board so far who think I support Israel for their genocide of Palestinians because Palestinians call us Abeed and because they enslaved the Africans. You clearly have a mental issue.

"""He takes every criticism of Israel personally""

Thats incorrect, and its pure crap on your part, you making this up, thats what YOU think. I don't take it personally and I've told you that more than once! I see it as a discussion worth of exchanging in this "turbulent times".

"""Also, if a post gets you upset, SIMPLY IGNORE IT and move to a different thread or post.""""

Look here, what the F are you talking about? None of the posts on Israel gets me upset,..like you and everyone else at this time and age I simply share my points because its the "actuality" which the whole world is talking about, maybe it gets you UPSET when I share my views on Israel and Palestine. So all of my harsh criticism about Israel for all these years(and you know it) you throw it out of the window just because I said Palestinians call us Abeed? Then all of sudden I must be one of those Hillel websites. On this, You are really "confirming" what Kris think about us. Also, DONT YOU EVER TELL ME WHAT AND WHAT NOT TO DO, NOT YOUR BUSINESS, I reply to whatever freaking post I want to. Do I respond to all of your posts? No! So stop dictating me, Sir.

Your attacks on my Israeli posts OR replies are "misplaced" or "lost", cause you apparently don't understand where I'm coming from, you don't properly read what I write coz you keep thinking or believing that I'm trying to justify the genocide of Palestinians which is crazy. YOU MUST STOP THIS SHHIT PROMPTLY, STOP BEING A RASSHHOLE.

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Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)

Posted by gm on 10/24/2025, 6:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)"

Mr TheOne, simply ignore my posts on Israel's genocide..No more!
On any other subject, no problem.. you are the Great Black Discoverer.
Once again, do not reply to my posts on Israel and its genocide. Thank you, Sir!

Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)

Posted by theone on 10/24/2025, 7:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Here is why this world is not my home (Link)"

""""Mr TheOne, simply ignore my posts on Israel's genocide..No more!""""

I believe you said this at least twice and I done exactly that. Just scroll down and you'll see the many "dozens" of your Israeli posts I've IGNORED, not just me but all three of us. Also, since I didn't "inhale" any Ganja I'm pretty sure this subject on Israel and those prominent Jewish figures to which I replied was posted by Maestro, NOT YOU. IT WASN'T YOUR POST, SIR. Apologize and now!! Please pay attention and learn how to read in between the lines when it comes to my replies on Israel's posts. Thanks!!

Oh PS: Just to remind you that you have been replying to "some" of my posts on Israel. Seems like you don't have a problem with that. But you don't like it when I reply to your posts on Israel. Ok, good to know.

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Re: A Bleak Future for Israel

Posted by Les on 10/25/2025, 1:25 am, in reply to "A Bleak Future for Israel"

My brothers, what is there to argue about? GM, TheOne is from Morocco, so naturally he's going to critique the Arab world. His folks, Black folks in Morocco, are currently being discriminated against in that country and the rest of the Arab world.

I certainly don't like the idea of the indigenous descendants of the land being pushed out. Meanwhile, there is something to be said about traditional Palestinian and Arab embracing of white supremacy in conjunction with European- descended people.

Maestro's a white American, and he's even noted the Muslim mitigation of Black people.
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Re: A Bleak Future for Israel

Posted by theone on 10/25/2025, 5:11 am, in reply to "Re: A Bleak Future for Israel"

Les, here is my reply to Maestro on this subject:

"""And I wasn't happy to read that there are prominent "Muslim" figures across the world who have publicly voiced support for Israel include Irshad Manji, Salim Mansur, Enes Kanter, Abdurrahman Wahid, Reza Pahlavi, Mithal al-Alusi, Kasim Hafeez, Abdullah Saad Al-Hadlaq, Zuhdi Jasser, Asra Nomani, and Khaleel Mohammed. This is intriguing when you see Jewish ppl fighting for the Palestinians.

I didn't know before that "Muslim Zionism" exist. Now of course there are thousands of Muslims who share the same views as those prominent Jewish figures who are calling on the United Nations and world leaders to impose sanctions on Israel over the genocide in Gaza,..but then you also have these "immoral" Muslims who are of the same mind with Netanyahu, his cabinet, and all the bigoted Ashkenazi Zionists in Israel.""""

Les, can you please tell me in which paragraph above you see that I was trying to justify the genocide against Palestinians?? Nada!! Plus he's the one who replied to my post on Israel here, although he kept saying to me to ignore his Israeli posts which doesn't make sense coz when you post something/anything on this board you mean you want to engage in a conversation, share something of value to prompt "responses". So you should expect questions to be asked, you should expect "relatable" observations when you post a subject, etc.., then its up to the ppl to answer your post or ignore them. How about you ignoring my responses to your posts??

Not so clever, his "brain" is starting to show its true colors.

By the way, I give him(GM)credit on how he changed his views on Arabs especially the ones who enslaved the indigenous darkies in that part of the world, because when I first started posting on this board in 2006 I found him to be extremely "Anti-Islam" and spoke crap about Muslims, and he didn't give a damn about Palestinians just a few years before Oct 7th attacks. Although Palestinians have extremely suffered in the past under Ariel Sharon's reign where thousands were killed and massacred he was still an anti-muslim dude.

I believe what made him "unfeigned" today to the Palestinian cause all of a sudden, is his deep hatred of Aipac, Zionists, European Jews and also the "New Yorker" Jews in general. As for me he knows I'm not pro-Israeli nor pro-Palestinian, and I hope he understands that I am NOT pro-genocide either, and he should stop implying this before I forceful hit with a closed fist comes down on his face. LOL!!.

Re: A Bleak Future for Israel

Posted by Maestro on 10/25/2025, 8:27 am, in reply to "Re: A Bleak Future for Israel"

Yes Les, I have pointed out Arab and Palestinian racism but only as part of my argument that all ethnicities, races and religions have a racist faction. The Palestinians are no different.

Tell me Les, if you were speaking at a rally against Palestinian genocide, would you find it important to bring up the topic of Palestinian racism? I don't think so; You'd be run out of there very quickly. Poor timing and irrelevant!!! That is my point.

Or what if you were speaking with a group of African Americans on the slave trade? Would you find it necessary to bring up the irrelevant point that African leaders once helped the captors? Of course not. Poor timing and irrelevant again!

Further les, I find it amusing that you show no irritation when theone remarks on Arab racism, but years ago, when he exhibited similar insensitive behavior concerning African American youths shooting each other in Chicago, you and I both posted retorts. I guess when the shoes on the other foot, it's a different story.

One more point: theone's post entitled, "Here is why this is not my home" speaks volumes on the state of his mind. He has given up; he is broken, frustrated and angry. He complains and does nothing. He's dropped out.

I recall years ago going to a planning committee meeting during the Polish Solidarnosc years. The meeting took place at a Polish hall deep in the heart of the Milwaukee Polish community. I had recalled seeing that very same hall while marching in the fight for integration years before. I'll bet some of the Poles that threw feces on us while marching were now in that same room where we were organizing for Solidarnosc. Was I bitter like theone is now? Nope. It was an opportunity to build the movement, not hurt it more. That's what activists do.

theone's not an activist; he is a bitter armchair cynic in a world that is not his home.

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Re: A Bleak Future for Israel

Posted by theone on 10/25/2025, 10:33 am, in reply to "Re: A Bleak Future for Israel"

"""theone's not an activist; he is a bitter armchair cynic in a world that is not his home."""

With a world that is not my home I meant life on earth is temporary and that my true and eternal home is in the afterlife, typically heaven since this place we're in has been ruined by Neanderthals, those archaic humans. It has nothing to do with being or not being an activist, plus what do you know about me?? How do you know I am not an activist? What if I'm an activist about those you don't care about? I bet you never knew Afro-Arabs existed for your entire 70 years of life until you came to this board. Just trying to keep the discussion academic.

""""when he exhibited similar insensitive behavior concerning African American youths shooting each other in Chicago, you and I both posted retorts. I guess when the shoes on the other foot, it's a different story.""""

As if I was lying? As if its not true, as if AA do not shooting each other by the droves in broad daylight in Chicago. I wasn't exhibiting an insensitive behavior, I found the whole situation not fair to not criticize since AAs kill each in a country that is and has been hostile to them all from the begining,.. in fact it shows how I care about the problem. I remember Les ending up compromising with this subject a few days later. But your EVIl being switched it to another direction and gave it another flavor to trying to make me look bad and perhaps anti-Black American, and I remember very well how I schooled you on this and put you right back on your "lift chair",..and yet you pretend to be an activist and pro-black, but you refuse to hear someone pointing at this "uncontrolled" violence(at that time being) often linked to factors like gang activities, lack of education and high rates of gun violence that is blatantly leading the community to a mini-genocide. When the news said the risk of firearm homicide is significantly higher in Chicago than the risk of combat death for soldiers in the war zones, I bet your fake activism was out of order, the only activisim you could do was to post some retorts to theone.

Also I remember the first time you posted here on LLC, I could feel/read your hostility towards me in your replies simply because you found out I was Moroccan from a Muslim country, later on for some reason I've noticed how quickly you covered your face with a decorative mask temporarily. Now you dropped that mask.

I'll get back to you when your opinion matters.

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TheOne, you're a liar, a fraud, and a poseur..

Posted by gm on 10/25/2025, 1:19 pm, in reply to "Re: A Bleak Future for Israel"

You can hoodwink Les with your nonsense but not me.

I've been onto you from day one but kept stringing you along for this board's sake, not anymore.

You dirty piece of shit, how can you change my mind on the Arab slave trade when I've been posting about it before you came on the board? You wicked miserable liar!

You fraudulent dipshit, do you think I buy into your fake Gnawa identity?
Do you think I believe in your fraudulent claim of being married to one of the girls in Zap Mama? You wicked swinehead, I know more about Zap Mama than you'll EVAR know in two life times. I've seen them perform at the Central Park Africa Fete, etc etc. I'm also knowledgeable about their individual biographies, so shut da fukkk up!

A few weeks ago Les suggested you were a provocateur on LLC and I came to your defense, which in hindsight was a mistake.
Now I'm pretty sure you're a pro-Israel disruptor - maybe even an Israeli pig head.

Anyway, the sad part is how easily Les fell for your game because of his obsession over Palestinians embracing Eurocentric values, as if many of our own and some Africans leaders haven't done the same, to the hindrance of Black progress.

Anyway, like I said earlier, DO NOT RESPOND TO MY POSTS ON ISRAEL, EVAR!

Other than that, you're a pretty musty prick and a stinking douche bag. There!

Sigh..so glad I got this off my chest.

Re: TheOne, you're a liar, a fraud, and a poseur..

Posted by theone on 10/25/2025, 1:36 pm, in reply to "TheOne, you're a liar, a fraud, and a poseur.."

hahahahaha, good lawwd, never seen you having your "menstruation" ever since I came to this board in 2006. First time. LOL!!

FYI, nothing you've stated down below is equitable, except for the Arab slave trade that I believe you've posted about it before I came here.

For this reason, I have no choice but to wait until your "period" is over.

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Oh by the way,..

Posted by theone on 10/25/2025, 1:52 pm, in reply to "Re: TheOne, you're a liar, a fraud, and a poseur.."

Love you, G, I still believe you're a great guy.

Signed: Your long time "douchebag" friend.

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Re: Oh by the way,..

Posted by gm on 10/25/2025, 3:11 pm, in reply to "Oh by the way,.."

Love you too dude!
You Rock!

Just next time dont:
"By the way, I give him(GM) credit on how he changed his views
on Arabs especially the ones who enslaved the indigenous darkies in that part of the world."

Everything in that paragraph are lies, and thats what set off my menstruation - sorry, didn't mean to 'leak' all over you the way I did.
Plus, the Jamaican chick told me you enjoy that shit - she said you enjoyed the taste, you described it as tasting like jerk chicken🐔🫢🫢

Anyway let's move on, my 'period' is over😀

Re: Oh by the way,..

Posted by Ramses, aka _____ on 10/26/2025, 2:52 am, in reply to "Re: Oh by the way,.."

In every discussion group or topic there are always left, right, center, and polemic-fringe frameworks that emerge. The world simply breaks down in that manner.

So, I'm not surprised by the harangue that bubbled up over the past few days.

Welcome to life, bros.

But it was good to see TheOne quickly present an olive branch to GM after some indiscriminant Tomahawk missiles which I felt might create irreparable damage.

Meanwhile, Maestro's scud missiles landed all over the place, but TheOne's iron dome deflected them pretty well.

Don't take this stuff personal gentlemen. It's simply a good time to unwind while analyzing the issues of our day.

Interestingly, we're getting a lot of hits nowadays. Mediocre writers are afraid to come on here, though, because you guys are razor sharp in your positions. No 1940s B52 bombings on LLC. You Hotep brothas track opinions like infrared heat-seeking trajectiles.

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Re: Oh by the way,..

Posted by theone on 10/26/2025, 3:23 am, in reply to "Re: Oh by the way,.."

"""Anyway let's move on, my 'period' is over"""

Ha-ha-ha,...I see, you're definitely the first Black man in the world who receives his monthly period

. You made history, sir.

"""By the way, I give him(GM) credit on how he changed his views on Arabs especially the ones who enslaved the indigenous darkies in that part of the world.""""

I truly apologize for this "misunderstanding".

But now since your period is over I would love to seize the opportunity to remind you of one more thing and then we'll move on from this subject forever. I promise!!

Yea, lets take the Ukrainians for example, ppl in Western Europe are still talking trash about Ukrainian refugees for being some kind of "privileged" refugees, usually eligible for social assistance if they are unemployed and to child benefits if they have children, also many of them originally have their own money and are still generally better treated than other refugees of color,..ppl also accused Ukrainians and still do of being "racists" against Black Africans and we saw that when folks were fleeing the country Ukrainians wouldn't let Black folks board the trains,..all these serious critics against Ukrainians in a time when they are getting bommbed and killed all the time by Russians, we're talking about more than "59,000 killed and an estimate of 250,000 wounded" in Ukraine. Not that far from the number of casulties in Palestine to be honest.

The thing is why nobody cared at least on this board about Ukrainians being badly criticized while dying in great numbers at the hands of Putin?? Why is it "sacred" not to criticize some but can criticize others during a war? Inquiring minds want to know.

Still at it and doubling down. the man has no shame. still a troll!

Posted by Maestro on 10/26/2025, 8:30 am, in reply to "Re: Oh by the way,.."

"Why is it "sacred" not to criticize some but can criticize others during a war?" Because one is a war and the other is a genocide.

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"""Anyway let's move on, my 'period' is over"""

Ha-ha-ha,...I see, you're definitely the first Black man in the world who receives his monthly period . You made history, sir.

"""By the way, I give him(GM) credit on how he changed his views on Arabs especially the ones who enslaved the indigenous darkies in that part of the world.""""

I truly apologize for this "misunderstanding".

But now since your period is over I would love to seize the opportunity to remind you of one more thing and then we'll move on from this subject forever. I promise!!

Yea, lets take the Ukrainians for example, ppl in Western Europe are still talking trash about Ukrainian refugees for being some kind of "privileged" refugees, usually eligible for social assistance if they are unemployed and to child benefits if they have children, also many of them originally have their own money and are still generally better treated than other refugees of color,..ppl also accused Ukrainians and still do of being "racists" against Black Africans and we saw that when folks were fleeing the country Ukrainians wouldn't let Black folks board the trains,..all these serious critics against Ukrainians in a time when they are getting bommbed and killed all the time by Russians, we're talking about more than "59,000 killed and an estimate of 250,000 wounded" in Ukraine. Not that far from the number of casulties in Palestine to be honest.

The thing is why nobody cared at least on this board about Ukrainians being badly criticized while dying in great numbers at the hands of Putin?? Why is it "sacred" not to criticize some but can criticize others during a war? Inquiring minds want to know.