That is very true Mac, I don’t understand it though especially for local issues, I remember a number of years ago when we lived in Hertfordshire, despite the fact I was a Tory voter, at times it did vote for the local Lib Dem man he was extremely good on getting things done that were essential for the local community, he always listened, returned calls that kind of thing, there is no way I would consider voting Lib Dem in General Elections as their policies are totally from cloud cookoo land.