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Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Robert L on 2/3/2025, 4:18 am

Reading all the comments on the above certainly put the cat among the pigeons ! It’s difficult to indeed to know what’s going on as I am sure what’s going on behind closed doors one rarely
gets to know about.
Personally I find the podcast by Katie Hopkins Official to be extremely interesting and the comments .

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Bill Wallace on 2/3/2025, 7:38 am, in reply to "Trump / Zelinsky "

Interesting comments from her and the UK just gave Zelensky more money to continue the carnage. Brilliant eh?

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Robert L on 2/3/2025, 8:23 am, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Yes indeed. Good comment

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Robert L on 2/3/2025, 8:26 am, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

As President Trumps P/R said …. There is a new Sheriff in town now!

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Colin Thompson on 2/3/2025, 11:55 am, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

I take it from your comments that you folks support Trump and, vance .... Interesting!!

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by John Shearer on 2/3/2025, 12:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Who's carnage Bill, Russia has not even been touches in 3 years, now he has China and North Korea in the mix.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Bill Wallace on 2/3/2025, 1:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

I assume millions killed and wounded on both sides is not considered carnage. The war should never have been started but that being said I’m against Russia totally. I’m pointing to an article you can read if you want of a journalist’s opinion, of which, I agree.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/03/zelensky_s_terrible_horrible_very_bad_no_good_day.html

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Colin Thompson on 2/3/2025, 1:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

OK Bill I have read the article you advised me to read and still am Waiting for someone in authority in the US to admit that Russia was and is still the aggressor and Ukraine the victim, Russia must be stopped or who will be next? Having sead that I do understand that some of the billions should be repaid somehow.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Sheila on 2/3/2025, 3:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

The Ukraine was part of Russia until 1991. Zelensky should not have kept trying to join NATO. Even the Americans knew Putin would not allow NATO on his door step. For some us in 1960/61. Kennedy would not allow Russian Nuclear Missiles in Cuba. It was another WW3 fear, but Krushcev backed down.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Bill Wallace on 2/3/2025, 3:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Thanks Sheila my feelings also

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Robert L on 2/3/2025, 9:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Agree completely Sheila.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Steve in Australia on 2/3/2025, 11:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

The Ukraine was not part of Russia...... it was part of the USSR/CCCP (Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics) prior to 1991 and prior to the October Revolution in 1917 was an Independent Nation and had been referred to as UKRAINE since about 1830...... My Father in Law was born and raised in Kyiv !!

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Sheila on 3/3/2025, 8:24 am, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Steve, it was part of Russia in the Soviet Union. A great many Russian speaking Ukrainians . Did you know Zelensky was passing or/passed a law banning the Russian language. Ok if you go back far enough lots of countries boundaries were changed. We can’t keep slaughtering generations. I don’t want Stammer sending British troops to the Ukraine when many young men are fleeing Ukrainian as they refuse to fight.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Bill Wallace on 2/3/2025, 3:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Colin please tell me how is Russia going to be stopped? Short of nuclear weapons (heaven forbid) Ukraine unfortunately is on the short end of things with no end in sight. Zelensky was offered a possible cease fire deal from President Trump. It would be 50/50 mining rare earths with American help and security - not military to help them build up their country again and recover money given to them not loaned as the Europeans did (good luck getting that back). Please don’t tell me it’s for Musk to have access to lithium. Right now most of the rare earths come from China. Musk could drop Tesla and have no effect on him. It’s amazing how the environmentalists were for him until he turned pro America.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Colin Thompson on 2/3/2025, 4:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Hi Bill Russia is always claiming to be one of the most powerful countries on earth - - when they invaded Ukraine vertualy unaposed for the first few weeks they didn't get very far so I don't rate the Russian army at all--three years and still not much progress. Faced with a proper army they wouldn't stand a chance.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Colin Thompson on 2/3/2025, 4:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

And don't forget Finland - - Estonia - - and Latvia all bordering Russia.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Colin Thompson on 2/3/2025, 5:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

I meant to say those countries are already in NATO

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Sheila on 4/3/2025, 9:21 am, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Did they not join NATO because they fear Russia.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Liz Dance on 2/3/2025, 4:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

The Russian fighting force is much depleted now hence the need to bring in ‘troops’ from North Korea, also freeing prisoners of fighting age, the Russian economy is on its knees now.

A compromise will have to be achieved but it can’t be a one way street whereby Putin walks away giving himself an a nice pat on the back. Putin will, over time, try to rearm and then force himself back into Ukraine thing is it will take time. All parties need to be involved to agree a compromise to stop this war it can’t be just America and Russia deciding amongst themselves what spoils each should receive, Ukraine’s interests have to be taken into account, at the end of the day Russia was the aggressor not Ukraine.

It seems as though the minerals in Ukraine are up for graps, I don’t see how America should take all of the spoils, Europe has given funds and weapons to Ukraine, in my opinion the wealth from the minerals should be used, in the first instance, to rebuild Ukraine, once that is done maybe then both America and Europe should agree to then get Ukraine to repay some of the debt it owes them, just my opinion.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Bill Wallace on 2/3/2025, 5:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Well said Liz. I was not suggesting America take all of the mineral spoils. It was a starting point from President Trump to try and get a cease fire. Once that was accomplished then further discussions could follow on how Europe could be involved rebuilding the country.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky

Posted by Geordieboy nsr on 2/3/2025, 8:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

Re Zelinsky, just hope that President Zelinsky isn't potrayed as the bad boy in whatever negotiations transpire.

Re: Trump / Zelinsky for Bill

Posted by Mac C on 2/3/2025, 9:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky "

To close the "American Thinker" article by calling Zelensky a "posturing midget" hardly gives me faith in its general content and balanced opinion.

But leaving that aside.....

I can fully understand why Americans are not happy about their heavy share of the aid which has been given.
I really see the need for peace.

But peace at any price ignoring the actions of the aggressor?

What Robert L correct about is that we don't know what is going on behind closed doors and that is exactly where negotiations should take place not on the glare of TV lights!
The blog by Hopkins to which Robert refers has several mistruths and more reference to unhelpful dresscode can safely be ignored.

International diplomacy has just been dealt a cruel blow.

Re: Trump and his cronies

Posted by Allan Campbell on 2/3/2025, 9:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump / Zelinsky for Bill"

Hopkins, one sick cookie methinks. Watched part and thought yuk.

As for T, V & M along with others, disgusting they had the man deliberately ambushed or set up ,they humiliated him but they humiliated themselves and all the people of the USA.

They demeaned the Oval Office , it’s no longer the place that it was, now gone forever.

People are not longer going to trust the USA with that lot in power.
Who is running the show maybe not T, he is past it, if he ever was with it. Delusions of grandeur!

The other two yuk!

Shame I had thought that T was going to be a breath of fresh air, a bit outspoken maybe, but now ?

Allan C.

Trump

Posted by Geordieboy ns on 3/3/2025, 3:11 am, in reply to "Re: Trump and his cronies "

Allan, I agree with your initial thoughts , now ,I believe he holds the gun but others are firing it.

Re: Trump

Posted by Sheila on 3/3/2025, 8:32 am, in reply to "Trump"

I’m curious about the first 40 minutes of the meeting that we didn’t see. I’ve read, quite a few comments on line saying, if we saw the whole meeting from the beginning people may change they minds. I’m no supporter I Trump, but I don’t think Zelensky is whiter than white. Even more so when I see more and more of his supporters on TV.

Re: Trump-For Sheila

Posted by Malcolm on 3/3/2025, 1:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump"

Sheila, We watched the whole debacle, from the start.
It began very amicably, all smiles, and we wondered at what point, and exactly what caused the change..

Sure enough, out of the blue, J D Vance (the vice-president) slammed into Zelenski, telling him he was being disrespectful, hadn't thanked the USA for their help, and then Trump joined in with the ear-bashing... free speech NOT allowed....

Then the stupid comment from a reporter "Why don't you wear a suit? Do you even OWN a suit?"

How ridiculous!!!

Note: When Zalenski was greeted by our King at Sandringham, did anyone comment that he was still wearing his "fatigues"?

No, of course not, because it doesn't matter!

The Americans behaved like a bunch of school-ground bullies, and it sounds as if they are proud at how they treated the President of Ukraine...

Re: Trump / Zelensky / Musk

Posted by Liz Dance on 3/3/2025, 1:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump-For Sheila"

Has anyone ever queried why Musk doesn’t wear a suit, it seems to be OK for him to visit the WH in casual attire?

Re: Trump-For Sheila

Posted by Sheila on 3/3/2025, 2:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump-For Sheila"

Malcolm, I didn’t think the whole 40 minutes was released to the Uk. I would have been interested. When all this started, we were told it would be over in 12 months. I just think the idiots have given the liberal lefties more ammunition. I think a lot of people are getting battle weary.

Re: Trump-For Sheila

Posted by Malcolm on 3/3/2025, 3:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump-For Sheila"

Sheila, we watched it on You-tube, the whole 40-45 minutes of it....

Re: Trump

Posted by Robert L on 4/3/2025, 4:28 am, in reply to "Re: Trump"

Correct Sheila

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