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Re: Since when is spending lots of money part any religion

Posted by Christopher Blackwell on December 12, 2025, 8:09 pm, in reply to "Santa Claus music, white Christmas music, choral, chants and cantatas "

The Christmas shopping season is a modern invention, starting in the 1840s in England.

Before that time, Protestants considered it far too Pagan and far too Catholic. In Puritan Mass. it was considered a serious crime to celebrate Christmas.

So again no Christmas shopping season until we borrowed the new English Christmas from wealthy English in the 1840s. Our present idea of a Christmas shopping season was invented by Charles Dickens in his novel A Christmas Carol. I found this out because it was one of my favorite books, as were the many movie versions. The three Christmas ghosts are remarkably Pagan rather than Christian.

The middle class copied the wealthy. It was not until the 1930s before there were enough cheap toys from China for poor people could take part in Christmas shopping in England.

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I’m down at a shopping mall north of San Francisco. - GOG December 10, 2025, 1:31 pm

I miss the Christmas Caroling Truck. - Ken C December 10, 2025, 3:09 pm
- That is such a great idea! - trish December 11, 2025, 6:51 am
  - Carolers use to come around door to door when I was a kid. No more. - Dancing Digits December 12, 2025, 8:10 pm
  - I miss public Christmas music. You wokes stole it. - GOG December 12, 2025, 12:33 pm
    - don't know where you're going but I've been hearing it EVERYWHERE - trish December 16, 2025, 8:50 am
    - You wokes stole it. - Christopher Blackwell December 12, 2025, 6:17 pm
      - Santa Claus music, white Christmas music, choral, chants and cantatas - GOG December 12, 2025, 6:47 pm
        
        Re: Since when is spending lots of money part any religion - Christopher Blackwell December 12, 2025, 8:09 pm
        
        So, you have something against Christianity, Christmas, - GOG December 15, 2025, 5:53 pm
        
        Re: Nothing against Christianity, Christmas, - Christopher Blackwell December 15, 2025, 7:57 pm
        
        I always considered - Dancing Digits December 12, 2025, 8:22 pm
        
        the Shepherds presence suggest spring, Jewish based astrology suggests fall - trish December 16, 2025, 8:55 am
        
        Dream on. - GOG December 16, 2025, 9:12 am
        
        your lack of knowledge about how the date for Christmas - trish December 16, 2025, 12:02 pm
  - Especially in Minneapolis. - GOG December 11, 2025, 8:20 am

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