That’s stupid, ignorant and awful. Those troops are your neighbors and have no right to refuse..
Edited by LeatherneckIllini on August 25, 2025, 9:35:31
their orders to be there. You do that and you just play into the message. They 100% have authority to be there. If you don’t like it, get Congress to change the law. Go read this for the details. https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/llmlp/2024_DOPLAW_Handbook/2024_DOPLAW_Handbook.pdf  Previous Message Seeing as they'll likely be here illegally, I hope many 2nd Amendment enthusiasts take the time to come and visit this great city.  Previous Message State active duty means paid for by the state and take orders from the governor. Title 32 comes from the U.S. code and means federal government pays but governor still directs. It’s supposed to be used for training to ensure the guard is ready for federal missions but it’s used all the time for other things. Title 10 is the status named after federal code when president calls into federal duty. Directed by president and paid for by the federal government. See the case below where federal government is allowed to supersede state governor for federal activation. States are also allowed to have their own state defense forces, their own “guard” that have no federal connection. Many states have them. Texas uses them all the time for disaster relief and were fairly prominent during WW2. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/496/334/ I won’t go into the specific authority for these particular guard call ups since I now work for them, but safe to say it’s about 98% performative art. It’s all for show.  Previous Message My understanding of the National Guard is that for a state, the governor can call up the NG for state matters. The President can call up the NG for federal emergencies or "missions". So what happens when the NG is getting different orders from a governor as opposed to a President? I'm thinking of the Little Rock 9 incident...Arkansas and the governor Orval Faubus used the Arkansas National Guard to prevent the kids from going in the school, then Eisenhower sent in the Army to enforce Brown vs. Board. So would the same thing happen in Chicago? Could Pritzger mobilize the Illinois National Guard, and then Trump sends in a military branch like the Army or Marines?  Previous Message
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August 25th politics thread. * - VIV August 25, 2025, 7:16:23
- My OT kid tells me that Medicaid has stopped paying for all therapy for children coded as autistic* - Stu Today, 18:46:33
- Missouri gov calls special session for redistricting bc he’s a pussy and buckling under pressure - Mrap24 Today, 17:56:54
- En banc Fed. Cir. rules Trump Tariffs are illigal (mostly) - ATL Today, 17:52:33
- SSA's Chief Data Officer resigns after blowing the whistle on shitty DOGE activities - assassin Today, 15:44:10
- Another grand jury returns a no bill - ATL Today, 14:30:56
- I'm sure she was a violent criminal terrorizing society - UofIL6 Today, 11:24:31
- Israel launches new attack in Gaza this morning. - jjlocke923 Today, 7:34:59
- Did we discuss that Ashli Babbit is getting a full military funeral?
- Taz Yesterday, 17:43:35
- Things that make you go hmmmmmmm - Mrap24 Yesterday, 16:37:25
- concerning from the Department of Homeland Security - ECEIllinois Yesterday, 16:31:19
- Portugal, you're on the list. - larue33 Yesterday, 15:22:05
- Did I miss the discussion about Alligator Alcatraz getting shut down? - Illiniphil Yesterday, 14:48:03
- Damn, it's not just the CDC director. Looks like a ton of resignations. That's ok, RFK can - gvibes Yesterday, 14:40:12
- Let the shenanigans begin - Mrap24 Yesterday, 9:00:14
- The recent Cabinet meeting - larue33 Yesterday, 8:47:35
- ICE arrests firefighters, mid-firefight - complainant August 27, 2025, 21:56:18
- Surry County, NC election head accused of trying to drug his granddaughters - ATL August 27, 2025, 18:54:25
- I'll admit, this gave me a good laugh - Blazer August 27, 2025, 17:02:59
- new CDC director fired already - assassin August 27, 2025, 15:52:51
- school shooting in Minneapolis - TarheelIllini August 27, 2025, 10:46:22
- Real MAGA response - illini thunder Yesterday, 13:04:27
- More information about the shooter (?) - ATL August 27, 2025, 16:42:17
- Great, the shooter is allegedly trans - Sounder August 27, 2025, 11:56:44
- Look at this thread. We all deserve the hell we live in* - OrangeSox August 27, 2025, 14:27:46
- wtf is this shit?* - cpsteine August 27, 2025, 17:56:55
- Yeah, no. - JFG August 27, 2025, 15:03:43
- I don't know if we deserve it, but I sure don't see a path out of it* - Sammich August 27, 2025, 14:42:19
- Honestly, when it comes to mass shootings... - Sounder August 27, 2025, 14:36:03
- LOL - Kajagoogoo August 27, 2025, 14:36:01
- No. * - doubledown August 27, 2025, 14:35:07
- whatever it takes to not look at the guns* - John Coctostan August 27, 2025, 12:38:19
- I just watched the disturbing 10 minute video he posted before the shooting - illini21 August 27, 2025, 12:33:35
- Every trans should own an AK. For protection.* - Toonces August 27, 2025, 12:32:53
- The Instagram account the images were allegedly pulled from has conveniently “already been - doubledown August 27, 2025, 12:09:06
- Oh boy this is gonna be fun. The shooter was allegedly trans** - illini21 August 27, 2025, 11:50:53
- “No Way to Prevent This…” says only nation where this regularly happens. - JFG August 27, 2025, 11:41:58
- Seriously* - cpsteine August 27, 2025, 17:59:52
- Yup* - KingTalkyTiki August 27, 2025, 13:14:27
- Two children dead, apparently - timmer August 27, 2025, 11:27:57
- At a Catholic All School mass. Trump's hitmen are at it again* - KCWildcat August 27, 2025, 11:09:27
- Saying about 20 injuries* - Stu August 27, 2025, 10:55:54
- It's not political but sure* - illini21 August 27, 2025, 10:52:35
- I’m suddenly getting fed a lot of social media posts about Mike Johnson trying to usher in - doubledown August 27, 2025, 10:03:58
- Apparently a grand jury refused to indict the sandwich thrower? lol - gvibes August 27, 2025, 8:57:00
- Third circuit says that mail in ballots with mistaken dates entered must be counted - ATL August 27, 2025, 7:55:06
- War with Denmark - what a great idea - complainant August 27, 2025, 7:14:30
- Dems win a special election for a state Senate seat in Iowa. - larue33 August 26, 2025, 22:03:46
- Missed this, but the Atlantic reporting the West Bank is sliding towards crisis - Carl Spackler August 26, 2025, 21:34:57
- Doctors, lawyers, welders, mechanics looking to serve our country put to work picking up garbage - ATL August 26, 2025, 19:21:45
- Custodial engineers! - ATL August 27, 2025, 7:37:01
- Trashonal Guard* - Herman Blume August 26, 2025, 20:11:39
- Looking for meth, watches, and dog poo* - timmer August 26, 2025, 19:32:54
- They have eliminated all crime so quickly, this is all that’s left. - DT August 26, 2025, 19:29:50
- Not gonna lie, I'm pretty cool with that - RVA August 26, 2025, 19:28:09
- Million bucks a day. * - assassin August 26, 2025, 19:24:42
- Huge news on the Cracker Barrel board - Sounder August 26, 2025, 18:11:57
- And a dying business gets to remain a dying business, but at least a slightly accelerated one. - OB25 August 26, 2025, 23:32:14
- Anyone who wasted 1 second giving a shit either way has serious issues* - Mrap24 August 26, 2025, 22:18:39
- I feel like I’m going to regret asking but why were people upset over this* - illini21 August 26, 2025, 18:55:06
- I haven’t followed this. What was racist about the old sign/woke about the new sign? - Stu August 26, 2025, 18:54:26
- Why are we all so loathe to learn lessons about capitulation?* - Sammich August 26, 2025, 18:26:20
- Nm* - ECEIllinois August 26, 2025, 18:15:25
- Can’t believe they foiled our plot to make the Cracker Barrel woke* - ECEIllinois August 26, 2025, 18:15:22
- RFK Jr advisor states COVID vaccines to be pulled from US market within months - biclops August 26, 2025, 14:15:09
- Return of TRUMP TRANSCRIPT - VIV August 26, 2025, 14:04:47
- We are a banana republic - Sounder August 26, 2025, 13:31:31
- This is the sort of comment that would lead the news cycle - Sounder August 26, 2025, 13:03:05
- Same guy who is supposedly apoplectic at the UK ‘censoring’ speech online - John Coctostan August 26, 2025, 12:35:41
- I'm starting to think that Trump doesn't like windmills - Sounder August 26, 2025, 11:41:03
- Call him Don. Don Quixote.* - ATL August 26, 2025, 11:57:04
- What is his issue with them?* - Mrap24 August 26, 2025, 11:54:49
- I mean, they are objectively a shitty technology for energy generation. - Desert August 26, 2025, 13:05:08
- They built a bunch near his Scotland golf course a while back and he's still mad about it* - ECEIllinois August 26, 2025, 12:19:17
- The oil and gas people have already been declared the winner.* - Warrin'_Illini August 26, 2025, 12:00:32
- he's too stupid to actually understand what they do - IlliniSax05 August 26, 2025, 11:58:33
- I think it stems back to not liking them offshore at his golf properties - Sounder August 26, 2025, 11:56:44
- I’m sure the $2B his family got from the Saudis figures into it. * - doubledown August 26, 2025, 11:56:41
- All the murders, watch stealing and garage door bashing they inflict* - timmer August 26, 2025, 11:56:08
- Mmmm, feel all that freedom wash over you. * - doubledown August 26, 2025, 11:43:23
- Should I know what Abbey Gate is? - Sounder August 26, 2025, 11:10:11
- The cases for arrests made by Trump’s dipshit brigade are starting to make their way into court. - doubledown August 26, 2025, 8:36:48
- First they came for the Mexicans, but did not speak out, because I was Cuban - ATL August 26, 2025, 8:30:27
- TIL: Twitter bans you for saying you hope Trump dies of natural causes* - Stu August 26, 2025, 6:55:59
- Another faceless victim - complainant August 26, 2025, 6:14:57
- First flag burning arrest. - doubledown August 25, 2025, 21:38:19
- israel double tapped a hospital and killed more journalists - assassin August 25, 2025, 21:25:59
- Trump has fired Lisa Cook - larue33 August 25, 2025, 19:14:17
- american people must have confidence "in the honesty of the members entrusted with setting policy" - gvibes August 25, 2025, 20:02:42
- Markets already not liking it. * - larue33 August 25, 2025, 19:40:24
- only Trump gets to do mortgage fraud* - ECEIllinois August 25, 2025, 19:19:38
- I’m sure the Supreme Court will act to preserve the Constitution against despotism this time* - DT August 25, 2025, 19:18:42
- Black, intelligent, and female. Yep, pretty much checks all of his boxes* - UofIL6 August 25, 2025, 19:15:27
- getting stuff shipped to you internationally is going to be a shitshow come 8/29* - ECEIllinois August 25, 2025, 19:10:46
- "It takes one to know one" - Sounder August 25, 2025, 18:58:33
- Will tomorrow be Taco Tuesday for the occupation of Chicago? - ATL August 25, 2025, 18:00:44
- I know that the concept of two white male nepo babies at the top of the Democratic ticket - Sounder August 25, 2025, 16:45:09
- If you believe this, you are also an idiot - Mrap24 August 25, 2025, 15:28:47
- The Deuce Fun Pages: Spot the differences between these two pictures ROUND FOUR - KingTalkyTiki August 25, 2025, 14:11:06
- Comfort women - Sounder August 25, 2025, 13:00:56
- lol - ATL August 25, 2025, 12:55:32
- Re: lol - jjlocke923 August 25, 2025, 13:52:40
- I can't get over how gaudy the oval office looks with all of the ridiculous gold trinkets* - Sounder August 25, 2025, 12:49:52
- What a fucking clown - Mrap24 August 25, 2025, 12:04:35
- Make up a problem that doesn't exist, put on a performative show, declare victory - RVA August 25, 2025, 13:33:55
- How about my Air Jordans?* - timmer August 25, 2025, 12:39:10
- I honestly believe that if this guy didn't exist, trump would be 50% as bad* - cpsteine August 25, 2025, 12:10:49
- I must've hit it just right when I lived there, as people did all of these things back then.* - cpsteine August 25, 2025, 12:10:14
- Trump tilts his head like a confused dog when listening to someone speak a foreign language* - Sounder August 25, 2025, 11:56:55
- So Trump said today that nationalizing companies is his new industrial policy. There's a word for - ATL August 25, 2025, 11:36:43
- Burn a flag, go to jail. - doubledown August 25, 2025, 11:24:21
- The bruise on his hand is massive - Sounder August 25, 2025, 10:56:20
- "A lot of people are saying maybe we'd like a dictator" - Sounder August 25, 2025, 10:55:07
- We’re at war right now, too bad only one side realizes it. I should have moved to Canada when I had - Toonces August 25, 2025, 11:16:11
- He’s not wrong. Most of his supporters pretty clearly want a dictatorship.* - DT August 25, 2025, 11:07:17
- A dictator on day one. All the other days too, but also on day one. * - doubledown August 25, 2025, 10:58:31
- And, mainstream (and other) media will be silent....* - UofIL6 August 25, 2025, 10:56:11
- What's going on in South Korea? Seems like a purge or revolution. - Sounder August 25, 2025, 10:47:12
- Trump just called the Asian Carp "a violent fish" that "comes from China", the "Chinese Carp" - Sounder August 25, 2025, 10:44:57
- Pam Bondi in the Oval right now, just said MSNBC instead of MS-13* - Sounder August 25, 2025, 10:39:39
- The hand thing is kinda amazing. He clearly goes with a 'cover up' vs typical 'accordion' - UofIL6 August 25, 2025, 10:22:33
- So this whole Chicago thing... - JFG August 25, 2025, 9:09:18
- We were around the mag mile/riverwalk for a few hours yesterday. - illini August 25, 2025, 9:43:50
- For what reason would Pritzger be mobilising the NG though? * - jjlocke923 August 25, 2025, 9:36:16
- The national guard has 3 different statuses…. - LeatherneckIllini August 25, 2025, 9:24:27
- If they do show up in Chicago, I hope everyone is ready to be extra mean to them. - Warrin'_Illini August 25, 2025, 9:29:47
- come on, man. * - VIV August 25, 2025, 9:35:17
- That’s stupid, ignorant and awful. Those troops are your neighbors and have no right to refuse.. - LeatherneckIllini August 25, 2025, 9:32:07
- You're wrong. Please see this 330 page document* - gvibes August 25, 2025, 9:42:41
- Fuck them. This is a ridiculous stunt and anyone who participates can go to hell.* - Warrin'_Illini August 25, 2025, 9:36:53
- ^^^How Trump wins elections.^^^* - LeatherneckIllini August 25, 2025, 9:38:56
- Well, that's a LITTLE extreme, but... - Stu August 25, 2025, 9:37:58
- You can't refuse a lawful order. You can, however, show grace to the residents of the city you've - ATL August 25, 2025, 9:37:45
- Abrego Garcia detained by ICE. I guess they plan to send him to Uganda becausse he embarrased - ATL August 25, 2025, 8:30:01
- Abgrego Garcia taken back into custody* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes August 25, 2025, 8:28:56
- *bump* - VIV August 25, 2025, 8:26:59
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