The Deuce: the bears do everything to lose, but have got royally effed by the refs so far this year.*

Bears Lions thread - gvibes September 14, 2025, 11:45:02

i also heard the bears have lost their last 38 or 39 games when giving up 30 or more points? - Ari Gold September 19, 2025, 10:56:42
qbs have a perfect passer rating against stevenson so far this year and 70% of the pressure on caleb - Ari Gold September 19, 2025, 10:42:55
- Man, I still had some hope for Stevenson but he's been traaaaash* - illini21 September 19, 2025, 10:45:06
- good thing we drafted a LT in the 2nd round to replace Braxton - IlliniSax05 September 19, 2025, 10:43:53
  - There wasn’t a LT worth taking in the 2nd* - VIV September 19, 2025, 10:54:01
    - then don't take a RT that hasn't played LT in 3 years and expect him to be able to jump right over - IlliniSax05 September 19, 2025, 10:56:17
      - There wasn’t one worth taking that early in the first unless you were ok with Simmons’ knee. * - VIV September 19, 2025, 11:00:09
bears have 3 out of 5 2nd round healthy inactives so far this year. not great kevin.* - Ari Gold September 17, 2025, 12:30:28
- Wasn't Burden active both games?* - gvibes September 17, 2025, 12:50:02
  - It’s an aggregate - AintHatin September 17, 2025, 12:51:31
Bears lead the league in yards before contact on rushes. Not sure how real it is - gvibes September 16, 2025, 15:52:25
- The running game was pretty good on Sunday, plus a lot of Caleb scrambles* - OB25 September 16, 2025, 16:14:12
  - Nevermind, I see it’s just for RB’s. Definitely a bit surprising then* - OB25 September 16, 2025, 16:14:44
I think I need to be more emphatic in my comments below about Caleb. - OB25 September 15, 2025, 20:21:37
- I didn't watch the whole game but he looked good from what I saw. Defense is high key cheeks.* - Warrin'_Illini September 16, 2025, 8:56:43
- Just watched and he was great. Also... man not a lot of open guys. - Carl Spackler September 15, 2025, 21:37:08
- Yeah it looked really good absent the pile of sad on defense* - gvibes September 15, 2025, 20:56:28
- As Bears fans, we’re almost attuned to QB evaluation in an unhealthy way - AintHatin September 15, 2025, 20:47:12
  - Caleb could go 9/10 with 9TDs and some people would be bitching about the incompletion* - VIV September 17, 2025, 0:30:19
  - Yeah it’s terrible and I’m feeding into it by even posting this. - OB25 September 15, 2025, 20:55:03
    - Haha. No worries man. I’m consuming all that shit* - AintHatin September 15, 2025, 20:56:44
- I see a lot of room for improvement in those - Quiz September 15, 2025, 20:38:26
Remember when Ryan Poles was going to give a 3rd rounder for Matthew Judon? - Carl Spackler September 15, 2025, 20:10:23
I think I’m going to adopt Baker and the Bucs until the Bears figure it out. So prob the rest of my - LovetheChief September 15, 2025, 18:37:41
- Baker story from this summer. - CWR10 September 15, 2025, 19:50:11
  - Yeah he’s come a long way. Easy guy to root for now* - illini21 September 15, 2025, 20:03:26
QB school with another caleb video, of course. Kind of very positive on Caleb. - gvibes September 15, 2025, 17:38:34
- In terms of pass blocking in the passing game?* - Carl Spackler September 15, 2025, 18:06:47
  - Yes. - gvibes September 15, 2025, 18:22:47
    - BJ did make this comment today. I’d assumed it was intended for DJ, but maybe it was for Swift. - Carl Spackler September 15, 2025, 18:34:50
      - Does DJ and his contract have any trade value at all if/when this season goes in a tank? - OB25 September 15, 2025, 18:46:31
        
        We may have to give up picks for someone to take that contract* - gvibes September 15, 2025, 19:38:27
        
        Like people thought the Rams would have to do with Jonah Jackson* - gvibes September 15, 2025, 19:38:54
- Didn’t watch the video but that aligns with what I saw from Caleb yesterday. - OB25 September 15, 2025, 18:04:47
  - The takes have been insane. Cowherd said it’s clear Ben Johnson isn’t the right guy for Caleb lol* - illini21 September 15, 2025, 18:42:31
    - Wake me up after week 7 or 8. Judging any of that this early is dumb.* - voiceofreason September 15, 2025, 19:40:57
- I can't wait to be done with Swift* - CoronaTheirAss September 15, 2025, 17:50:33
  - Neither can my fantasy team* - Sounder September 15, 2025, 17:55:12
  - Couldn’t that be said of almost every Bear?* - LovetheChief September 15, 2025, 17:53:42
    - Nah - I like many of our players* - CoronaTheirAss September 15, 2025, 17:55:38
jj out indefinitely. may need surgery. not great bob.* - Ari Gold September 15, 2025, 12:10:05
- Groin injuries are nasty business* - OrangeSox September 15, 2025, 17:12:40
- Now being reported that Johnson is out for season* - Mrap24 September 15, 2025, 13:19:29
  - Good thing we have a pass rush to compensate for a banged up secondary. - Carl Spackler September 15, 2025, 16:30:52
    - All part of the rags-to-riches story in the Super Bowl pregame show in Feb 2027. * - osklister September 15, 2025, 17:12:22
- We got one drive to be positive about the Bears before the fucking roof collapsed. - Warrin'_Illini September 15, 2025, 13:00:13
  - Lose them all? LOFL* - bjl63 September 15, 2025, 16:05:32
    - It's a stretch of course but feels like this thing has already gone off the rails. - Warrin'_Illini September 15, 2025, 16:10:07
- TJ Edwards also reaggravated his injury that kept him out of week 1. Woof* - illini21 September 15, 2025, 12:51:54
- Mock draft season is back on!* - OB25 September 15, 2025, 12:39:45
- Yikes* - illini21 September 15, 2025, 12:27:42
PFF trigger warning, don't read - gvibes September 15, 2025, 10:56:31
- While I only listened on the radio until it was 38-14, it sounded like Caleb had a solid 1st half* - bjl63 September 15, 2025, 11:22:08
  - He played fine* - GMAW September 15, 2025, 12:24:20
  - Best parts of his day was a ton more stuff in structure, particularly in the 10-20 yard range. - Carl Spackler September 15, 2025, 12:16:50
watched the atl vikings game. i don't think minny is good. - Nobster September 15, 2025, 7:26:27
12 of 13 ol drafted in the first 2 rounds of this year’s draft have started while trapilo - Ari Gold September 15, 2025, 6:30:30
What's the over/under on Bears wins now...3?* - RSMBob September 14, 2025, 23:49:03
- New prediction: 3-14. Poles gets to wow us with another high draft pick! - Kajagoogoo September 15, 2025, 8:25:52
- I see 6.5 on DK* - Mrap24 September 15, 2025, 5:48:41
  - i’d be thrilled with 7. not sure how that happens at this point.* - Ari Gold September 15, 2025, 5:52:56
    - Joe Burrow is out and the Bengals D might be one of the worst in history again, so you can add - voiceofreason September 15, 2025, 7:37:49
Catching up... Does Ryan Poles watch Bears games and think to himself "God I suck". - Carl Spackler September 14, 2025, 21:20:46
- Makes me wonder if the concussion stuff has effected Brisker 's play? - DanSaint September 15, 2025, 5:28:51
- I'm not convinced he watches the games.* - Chuck Woodaby September 14, 2025, 21:22:54
  - Im not convinced he’s ever watched a football game* - Herman Blume September 14, 2025, 22:20:56
  - Can't blame him.* - Carl Spackler September 14, 2025, 21:33:41
- Also thought Caleb was fine. I don't understand pulling him in that game. - Carl Spackler September 14, 2025, 21:21:33
Any info on the Jaylon Johnson injury* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 20:54:23
More depressing GM stuff. - Mrap24 September 14, 2025, 19:18:03
- I mean I’m with you but we’ve already established all that* - illini21 September 14, 2025, 20:43:32
What was the purpose of drafting Loveland and Burden * - MC September 14, 2025, 17:57:02
- It's not like we just dropped $110M and a top ten pick at WR, and 50M at TE* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 20:28:47
- This x 1000000. I’ve been saying that all day to anyone who will listen.* - LovetheChief September 14, 2025, 19:17:58
  - I’m assuming the purpose was ”oh shit, the guy(s) I wanted to draft were taken…” - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 20:12:23
Ryan poles is a really bad GM. And the bears extended him. - Mrap24 September 14, 2025, 17:34:56
- Doesn’t matter who the coach or QB are. Poles can’t build anything* - Chicago1995 September 14, 2025, 18:36:47
- The best are the folks that defend it saying he needs to be paired with Johnson. - gullit September 14, 2025, 17:52:37
  - Who said that? That seems like nonsense* - longsnapper September 14, 2025, 18:38:43
    - I recall a lot of that, I don't know* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 20:10:33
- Bad GM after bad GM after bad GM - illini21 September 14, 2025, 17:36:46
When the Lions kicked it and it landed short of the 20, they blew it dead immediately. Could Santos - Orangeillini September 14, 2025, 17:24:28
- Yes. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time either* - QcIlliniFan September 14, 2025, 20:36:22
- That's what some folks on social media were saying* - LWillhite September 14, 2025, 17:38:44
loveland and burden nonfactors again today while ot, st, and ko didn’t even dress!* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 16:46:38
o’b calling for a qb change. and it’s still year 2 of caleb’s nfl career and week 2 - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 16:26:08
- OB sucks and his opinion should be ignored* - bjl63 September 14, 2025, 17:20:09
- It’s pretty clear Caleb is a bust but Bagent won’t give them a better chance. - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 16:49:31
  - I don’t think Caleb is a bust, but he’s been given little chance to succeed to date - Chicago1995 September 14, 2025, 18:50:09
  - Ya lost me at "pretty clear Caleb is a bust" - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 17:09:05
    - Of course it is. You just don’t like it* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 17:09:55
      - Based on what?* - VIV September 14, 2025, 17:41:49
        
        Are we really going to do this? - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 17:56:07
        
        I’m writing off last year due to the shit circumstances. - VIV September 14, 2025, 21:10:26
        
        Based off the 19 games he's played.* - gullit September 14, 2025, 17:54:37
        
        If only we had Dominic Raiola instead* - bjl63 September 14, 2025, 17:45:35
        
        If you’re going to throw a lob dunk to yourself, you could at least get Dylan’s name right. - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 18:04:37
        
        Sorry. You’re right - bjl63 September 14, 2025, 18:49:06
        
        Where'd he end up last year, though? He was already elite after two games, if I recall* - longsnapper September 14, 2025, 18:26:10
        
        Incorrect. 3 games* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 18:27:01
      - God forbid you give a guy a shot to play - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 17:14:58
Just saw the score, could we have started the season any worse? - TarheelIllini September 14, 2025, 16:13:34
Ryan Poles is a moron.* - Toonces September 14, 2025, 15:19:30
- They actually gave this fucking guy an extension* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 15:20:04
  - thanks president warren and george! too dumb or insecure to ever burn it down - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 16:07:14
bears aren’t even hurrying as they don’t want to give the ball back to the lions. lol.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 15:12:42
I have a question for football experts - bbonb September 14, 2025, 15:02:34
bagent time.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 15:01:48
St Brown must be having a career day at this point. The Bears aren’t even trying to find him* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 14:57:28
campbell running it up on benjo.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:56:34
meanwhile justin fields returning to form.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:49:40
Not a great pass but hit him in the hands. Gotta catch that. * - harb September 14, 2025, 14:46:44
At least we can start talking about what we are doing with the #1 overall pick.* - LovetheChief September 14, 2025, 14:45:24
At least the Lions aren’t mocking the Bears after big plays* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 14:39:25
- embarrassing.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:50:21
They cannot get St Brown on the ground. He’s like a ghost out there* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 14:35:14
This defense is total ass* - OrangeSox September 14, 2025, 14:34:42
453 yards in three quarters* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 14:34:38
Jfc Odunze* - PapaDels September 14, 2025, 14:29:13
- Arguably three drops on one possession. Poles wanted him over Nabers * - gvibes September 14, 2025, 14:31:31
  - Even if you're right and Poles wanted Rome over Nabers, Nabers was already taken - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:33:58
  - And the balls hit him right in the hands. It’s your freaking job* - PapaDels September 14, 2025, 14:33:33
Just don’t know you undo the losing culture of this franchise. Needs another reset* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 14:29:13
- It's legitimately one of the worst franchises in the league at this point - UIHuskie September 14, 2025, 14:32:36
- yes. benjo has done noting to address that it seems.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:30:48
- It's game 2 of the Ben Johnson regime. What reset are you looking for? - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:30:14
  - I wasn’t suggesting it should be done by now. Just commenting on how much work is still needed* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 14:39:16
    - Gotcha. Carry on - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:40:41
  - the penalties, lack of on field leadership, and rookie usage are major red flags.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:33:56
    - The penalties are an issue for sure - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:39:19
      - There’s a lot of turds on this roster, and neither Ben Johnson nor anyone else can polish them* - IlliniOllie September 14, 2025, 14:41:59
catch the ball x 2 rome!* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:29:04
this just in: the bears are really bad.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:21:21
Doesn’t it seem like Caleb gets a lot of balls batted down?* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 14:17:54
- That was a talking point in the first game last year but then was never really any issue after that. - OB25 September 14, 2025, 14:23:31
Ryan Poles has done a truly terrible job as a GM.* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 14:13:25
- are burden and loveland even dressed today?* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:16:35
Wright taking the first second of the play off* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 14:13:17
- he’s not good, which isn’t great for a first rounder.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:18:01
  - I'm sure PFF will tell us he was a top 10 OL again this week - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:22:51
i can’t get over how bad the ol continues to be.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:13:01
This defense is absolute pants* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 14:05:20
- and tj to boot.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:20:17
- and jj ruled out for the game. another year playing for a high pick that poles can eff up.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:09:33
wtf was that? tj edwards on jamo? lofl.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:04:44
- The defense has been ass today, but I think that was just an instance of a perfect play call - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:06:54
i know it’s early, but it looks like there’s still a leadership problem on this team - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 14:02:12
Good throw Caleb,only 2 yards behind him that time.* - LovetheChief September 14, 2025, 14:00:51
- Vilma said that was on the WR for not recognizing he needed to run a hot route - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 14:01:40
So...the official signaled to stop the clock, but shouldn't have - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 13:48:02
How do they retroactively correct an OOB after the team spikes the ball on the next play?* - VIV September 14, 2025, 13:43:37
- Can you imagine making change if the Chiefs were on defense?* - GMAW September 14, 2025, 14:02:19
Oh boy, it’s going to be a long season* - TarheelIllini September 14, 2025, 13:43:20
- They started the season with two Super Bowl contenders - Sounder September 14, 2025, 14:01:05
Our defense is still worse than the officiating* - Herman Blume September 14, 2025, 13:42:06
Ooo - Herman Blume September 14, 2025, 13:40:57
Wtf just happened * - gvibes September 14, 2025, 13:40:47
Maybe 2 defensive players with the first two picks would have been helpful.* - LovetheChief September 14, 2025, 13:40:29
Kenny that was just bunch of word salad that was wrong anyway* - illini222 September 14, 2025, 13:40:10
Why did they stop the clock?* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 13:39:25
- the bears do everything to lose, but have got royally effed by the refs so far this year.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:41:16
- official screwed up. Thought it was out of bounds* - DanSaint September 14, 2025, 13:40:35
Really great effort to keep momentum here, defense* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:34:35
- just awful, gave them everything they wanted.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:38:05
Good execution* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 13:29:56
Rome finally looking like the guy we thought he’d be* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:24:12
- There is a history of talented wide receivers - Sounder September 14, 2025, 13:29:04
- Yup really encouraging * - illini21 September 14, 2025, 13:27:48
  - I'm feeling less good about him sitting on my fantasy bench - Sounder September 14, 2025, 13:57:38
byard has been out of position a lot today.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:17:42
That looked extremely easy* - Herman Blume September 14, 2025, 13:17:15
defense may be back to quit mode* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:16:33
- It’s execution on offense. But there’s talent. The defense just doesn’t look talented. - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 13:18:02
  - below average offensive line and running back are limiting factors on offense* - Orangeillini September 14, 2025, 13:22:24
they get a 3rd and 4 on the ground. lol.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:12:32
sort of like a 30-yard punt. weren't getting that first down anyway. still dumb though.* - Orangeillini September 14, 2025, 13:08:57
- I just can’t even understand how he misses some of these throws by a mile. - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:12:03
- pretty good for our st these days.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:09:42
Man, he makes a great play to escape but just can’t throw accurately downfield* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:07:57
Cmon Caleb, just throw it 5 rows deep - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 13:07:51
what a meltdown that series was.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:07:39
- If this follows the typical script, that will be the beginning of the end of good Caleb vibes today* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:08:51
This offense is a complete mess* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 13:07:20
You know what would be cool? If the bears and Illinois were both good at the same time* - Taz September 14, 2025, 13:06:46
so many penalties again.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:06:02
and we still don’t have a back capable of a short yardage carry?* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:03:53
ball don’t lie.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 13:01:57
Nice play, Jaylon - illini21 September 14, 2025, 12:59:12
Jaylon Johnson so good (and hurt)* - gvibes September 14, 2025, 12:59:07
Can’t decide what’s better, the use of our first two draft picks or the domination of our rebuilt OL - LovetheChief September 14, 2025, 12:58:51
- I am not happy with the lack of Loveland so far, but you don’t draft guys… - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:03:14
  - I mean I get it. But if you draft a TE at 10, you expect him to get targets. See Warren in Indy.* - LovetheChief September 14, 2025, 13:04:25
    - Part of the problem could be that they have too many targets you’d expect to get targets - OB25 September 14, 2025, 13:06:44
Independent of this play...why is is not SOP to position the sky cam right over the LOS? - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 12:56:30
- and the linesman on the near side marked it way short of the other one on both plays?* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:58:29
- Still relying on old guys running in a random line from the side* - illini222 September 14, 2025, 12:58:16
- what happened to the chip in the ball idea?* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:57:17
  - They said on the broadcast that it's based on where the officials spot the ball - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 12:58:48
That was absolutely pathetic* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 12:54:35
ffs.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:54:18
no one on the interior O-Line can get any push on two attempts* - Orangeillini September 14, 2025, 12:54:05
- all that money too.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:54:56
Only took 5 quarters for me to pretty much only care about how Caleb plays. - OB25 September 14, 2025, 12:47:18
- that’s kind of where i’m headed as well. depressed after last week.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:49:01
nice to see caleb and rome connecting.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:42:35
Stevenson is worthless - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 12:36:04
lol at edmunds and stevenson.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:35:32
too many penalties again too.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:34:12
st continues to be an issue. fire hightower!* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:33:23
That first drive was way more encouraging in actual sustainable ways than the one last week* - OB25 September 14, 2025, 12:22:14
- yes.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:28:11
nice catch and run by Odunze for the TD. Good patience by Caleb* - DanSaint September 14, 2025, 12:17:14
Fuckin hell, Darnell Wright - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 12:13:57
First play from scrimmage and you don’t even snap it to Caleb. Says a lot* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 12:12:06
- No it doesn't - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 12:14:16
"you let a team march down the field it means you weren't mentally ready" - or maybe you just suck* - Orangeillini September 14, 2025, 12:11:15
- More like a blitzkreig than a march* - timmer September 14, 2025, 12:12:28
Stupid me only taking the Lions and -13.5 - timmer September 14, 2025, 12:10:10
Same shit year after year.* - opossum jenkins September 14, 2025, 12:07:04
JFC Santos - IlliniSax05 September 14, 2025, 12:03:59
are you kidding me. now he kicks it out of bounds.* - Orangeillini September 14, 2025, 12:03:58
- jake moody come on down.* - Ari Gold September 14, 2025, 12:29:27
Absolutely pathetic* - illini21 September 14, 2025, 11:57:17
And a 3rd rounder from last year* - Carl Spackler September 14, 2025, 11:55:24

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