The Deuce: I think Trump has helped Newsom way more than he's hurt him*

POLE: 2028 Democratic presidential nominee - TarheelIllini October 7, 2025, 12:27:13 [poll]

nm - OrangeSox October 7, 2025, 18:26:30
I don’t want it to be Newsom, but it’s gonna be Newsom. * - VIV October 7, 2025, 17:50:09
Imagine for a minute the reaction if Illinois sent its National Guard to Texas - Sounder October 7, 2025, 17:27:00
- Wait until these guys find out that Chicago restaurants won't be serving them any food. - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:45:32
  - These guys will 100% run covert ops to eat. They'll be dressed in full bears regalia - OrangeSox October 7, 2025, 18:45:27
    - Literal LOL* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 18:50:42
  - I thought Chris Farley was dead, but there he is right there. * - doubledown October 7, 2025, 17:54:06
    - Fat Texan in a little ACU. - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 18:00:48
      - TACO* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 18:01:12
    - I think that's actually Horatio Sanz* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 17:54:52
      - I think you might be right. * - doubledown October 7, 2025, 18:00:42
  - They better hope Hegseth never visits Texas.* - DT October 7, 2025, 17:47:11
You guys really think we’ll have a free and fair election in 2028? I really doubt it at this point* - meanjeans October 7, 2025, 16:44:28
- He has Trump 2028 hats that he parades out at every opportunity. What do you think? - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:18:39
  - I feel like its mostly cognitive dissonance and/or denial at this point - OrangeSox October 7, 2025, 18:27:19
  - Market for blue “Trump 1946-2028” hats. - memyselfandillini October 7, 2025, 18:04:29
  - What's going to be entertaining - Sounder October 7, 2025, 17:23:56
    - It would certainly be poetic if Republicans lost the presidency because nobody wanted to - doubledown October 7, 2025, 17:27:55
      - Hard to tell anyone anything with so much boot in their mouths...* - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:29:28
- My optimistic view is that the shenanigans will be limited without Trump on the ballot* - ECEIllinois October 7, 2025, 16:54:42
  - What makes you think he won't be on the ballot? - uofi1998 October 7, 2025, 17:05:29
    - Death* - QcIlliniFan October 7, 2025, 18:53:58
    - I mean his supporters are already trying to make the idea of a dictator more palatable. - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:26:17
      - Imagine taking advice from a guy who wrote a handful of mildly amusing comic strips. * - doubledown October 7, 2025, 17:30:51
        
        ...in 1998. - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:33:17
        
        about office culture that no longer exists* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 17:52:14
        
        Back when Scott Adams made fun of the pointy haired boss instead of wanting him to be dictator* - DT October 7, 2025, 18:04:16
        
        The dumbest guy I knew at my first office job had them all over his cubicle. * - doubledown October 7, 2025, 17:39:49
  - After what they’ve done and will do the next three years… - DT October 7, 2025, 17:02:48
    - I’d be happy to let them all go scot free to live out the rest of their days - memyselfandillini October 7, 2025, 18:07:41
    - *ding** - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:20:28
    - They can just pardon everybody. I really don't care if they do (even if Trump pardons himself). - Warrin'_Illini October 7, 2025, 17:05:24
      - The basic machinations of our government are now shattered. - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 17:22:36
    - I assume he'll do something sleazy like blanket pardons for his entire family.* - Chuck Woodaby October 7, 2025, 17:04:17
- Yes. The elections on November 7th will be free and fair. - doubledown October 7, 2025, 16:48:24
Dwayne Johnson. - DanSaint October 7, 2025, 14:50:58
- He can't even headline a successful movie anymore. Pres is way out of his league at this point.* - Sammich October 7, 2025, 14:53:34
  - Anymore? Nah. The masses don't care about a movie about an MMA fighter* - bjl63 October 7, 2025, 16:40:59
    - It was good* - memyselfandillini October 7, 2025, 18:08:37
    - I can't wait for MMA on the White House lawn - Sounder October 7, 2025, 16:42:27
  - Veep maybe?? Secretary of State? (Wait, Health/Human Services. Can you smell what the Rock....) - osklister October 7, 2025, 16:31:34
  - I was being sarcastic that he was, but you know there would be people - DanSaint October 7, 2025, 14:57:33
    - Dems don't want a celebrity candidate, they want competent and strong leadership* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 16:38:30
- GTFO with that nonsense* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:52:37
  - Again...I was being sarcastic but I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't rumored* - DanSaint October 7, 2025, 14:53:29
Dwayne Johnson. - DanSaint October 7, 2025, 14:50:54
I'd rather keep JB in IL. - Dilbert October 7, 2025, 14:42:48
- Agreed. Our odds of getting such a great governor again, aren't great.* - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 14:48:03
I'd be cool with JB or Newsom. - JFG October 7, 2025, 14:39:53
- I'd like to see JB as Newsom's veep - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:46:45
  - Odds of Dems having two straight white guys at top of ticket: - Stu October 7, 2025, 15:36:06
    - I actually disagree, I think the tides are turning - Sounder October 7, 2025, 16:39:19
      - Bleh, Dems still support DEI/woke* - Stu October 7, 2025, 16:49:52
- I don't think I'd be cool with JB, but I do think that he has the inside track. He is clearly - jjlocke923 October 7, 2025, 14:42:20
Oh Rahm, you sweet 9.5 fingered fool.* - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 14:29:21
- Am I wrong that he was pretty popular in Chicago - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:32:45
  - He was a very good mayor and the city was thriving. He screwed up with the L. McDonald shooting.* - gullit October 7, 2025, 17:10:44
  - He was a decent mayor, but his demeanor and some of his decisions were trending very unpopular... - KingTalkyTiki October 7, 2025, 14:34:38
I suppose there's a 1% chance Newsome will die, otherwise it's him* - Stu October 7, 2025, 14:14:16
- I think he's definitely the favorite, but I wouldn't discount - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:18:33
  - People keep saying that, and I never see it - Stu October 7, 2025, 14:21:35
    - I promise you it matters - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:30:49
      - There is no background or objective truth that will shield a candidate from smears - DT October 7, 2025, 14:58:21
      - Yes, it matters - Stu October 7, 2025, 14:37:03
      - Dems will say the same thing (but opposite) about Vance. - JFG October 7, 2025, 14:32:58
        
        Let's not forget that Vance lived and worked in, checks notes, San Francisco - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:34:40
    - Are you allowed to run for national office if the sitting President has declared your state... - haighter October 7, 2025, 14:28:16
      - I think Trump has helped Newsom way more than he's hurt him* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:33:16
Ossoff* - ECEIllinois October 7, 2025, 14:03:20
- He's a really good speaker. Not sure he's got the recognition yet* - UofIL6 October 7, 2025, 14:07:19
- I think governors make way better Presidents than legislators - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:05:11
  - but Senators are more electable because they're not really responsible for anything* - ECEIllinois October 7, 2025, 14:37:00
    - Also true - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:52:05
Stacy Abrams* - jfinsocal October 7, 2025, 14:02:14
- The first female President has to be Republican (and white) - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:04:03
  - People assumed the 1st black President would be Republican until Obama came along* - ECEIllinois October 7, 2025, 14:40:55
    - I never thought that for a second - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:48:17
      - First step. Don’t be a moron: - JeffFrank October 7, 2025, 15:32:17
        
        Second step: tell her she's the one you've been dreaming of* - Sounder October 7, 2025, 16:41:24
  - This is the way - TarheelIllini October 7, 2025, 14:28:21
Hopefully from the group of Shapiro, Beshear, Kelly* - CWR10 October 7, 2025, 12:39:12
at this point, newsom or shapiro* - snipes824 October 7, 2025, 12:37:07

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