Let's not forget that Vance lived and worked in, checks notes, San Francisco
Edited by Sounder on October 7, 2025, 14:35:38
and is by all reasonable observation completely in the back pocket of California tech bros billionaires.  Previous Message Everybody hates everybody. Eat at Arbys. Previous Message and I promise you that the Republicans will go on an all out assault to call him a "radical left Marxist California Democrat", complete with pictures of Covid lockdowns and homeless camps. Whether or not it works remains to be seen, but it's naive to think it doesn't exist. It definitely does. Previous Message
People also supposedly hated the stink of NYC billionaires, and what happened again? No one will care about California or anything that happened there once the campaigns get rolling.
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- Let's not forget that Vance lived and worked in, checks notes, San Francisco - Sounder October 7, 2025, 14:34:40
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on October 7, 2025, 14:34:40, in reply to "Dems will say the same thing (but opposite) about Vance."
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