The Deuce: tOSU has had payoffs as long (or longer) than schools like Texas, etc.

Some Illini basketball updates today from Underwood - OB25 September 22, 2025, 16:42:40

Hard to believe this is Brad’s 9th year* - opossum jenkins October 19, 2025, 5:42:25
Looks like Stojakovic is at least doing some light shooting drills - biclops October 18, 2025, 20:20:54
Geoff Alexander hinted on the radio today we will see some zone this season* - biclops October 18, 2025, 12:32:06
ISUs best players not playing - biclops October 18, 2025, 10:57:22
- Tomi, Andrej, and Mihalo all out as well. I don’t think Petrovic even could play, but… - OB25 October 18, 2025, 11:21:27
Exhibition vs ISU Sunday. Are we thinking Tomislav and Stojakovic will be out? - biclops October 17, 2025, 16:31:41
- Is Stojakovic still injured? - illinilosch October 17, 2025, 17:43:18
  - I think he's just getting back to practice - jdl October 17, 2025, 19:43:49
  - I have no idea* - biclops October 17, 2025, 17:46:33
Discount code for BTN Plus - jdl October 17, 2025, 15:58:02
- That time a year ago or so when it was free for a year - timmer October 18, 2025, 11:59:44
- god damn it. I wasn’t gonna let them get me this year, but here we are* - biclops October 17, 2025, 16:29:37
Was hoping for Ayo vs Shannon tonight, but Ayo is in street clothes - biclops October 16, 2025, 19:32:32
- Looks like he’s got a brace on his thumb. Great.* - Toonces October 16, 2025, 21:17:16
Petrovic & Mirkovic - biclops October 16, 2025, 19:20:16
- At what point do we start worrying about Petrovic’s eligibility?* - opossum jenkins October 16, 2025, 19:30:36
  - Wasn't Ivisic's eligibility not determined until the very end of Oct last year? - illinilosch October 16, 2025, 20:23:19
  - I’m more worried that we aren’t getting the full story on Stojakovic’s injury - OB25 October 16, 2025, 19:53:02
    - Rodgers has announced his injury - LWillhite October 16, 2025, 21:38:00
  - Rumor is end of the month * - biclops October 16, 2025, 19:31:28
    - Nice* - opossum jenkins October 16, 2025, 19:35:19
      - my source is Loyalty, so consider it* - biclops October 16, 2025, 19:38:50
        
        I’m hearing the same… - shua October 16, 2025, 19:48:20
        
        Link?* - DocWalk20 October 16, 2025, 19:53:18
        
        ooo - biclops October 16, 2025, 20:29:47
nm paywalled* - biclops October 16, 2025, 17:26:42
- nm* - biclops October 16, 2025, 17:30:15
Werner, Trotter, and Latulip talk hoops for an hour fifteen - biclops October 14, 2025, 20:19:04
- I've listened to the first half of this. I'm now as excited about the 2025-26 season as - Philo October 15, 2025, 14:24:32
random tweet log on the Wagler fire - assassin October 14, 2025, 12:16:03
- man, i can't wait to see this kid play - illini21 October 14, 2025, 12:24:59
17 in the preseason AP poll - biclops October 13, 2025, 11:11:06
- Highest vote from the NG guy - #6 * - jdl October 13, 2025, 13:20:38
  - Wonder if he KenPom’d it.* - voiceofreason October 13, 2025, 17:07:50
    - KenPom wasn't out when ballots were due* - LWillhite October 15, 2025, 12:50:09
- The way some of you feel about Indiana's success in football - Sounder October 13, 2025, 12:01:47
  - Purdue has won more B1G basketball titles than any other team. - GMAW October 13, 2025, 12:09:26
    - it's just makes no sense to me that they're historically that good - Sounder October 13, 2025, 12:11:26
      - Kansas University is one of the five best college basketball programs in history - GMAW October 13, 2025, 12:12:16
        
        Maybe favorite KU fact - James Naismith is the only coach in school history with a losing record. * - illini October 13, 2025, 12:47:10
        
        Hell 3 of the top 5 make no sense from a demographics standpoint. UK, KU and UConn. - Carl Spackler October 13, 2025, 12:23:29
        
        Nor do Alabama, Nebraska or Oklahoma in football, or even OSU before Columbus became a metropolis... - uofi1998 October 13, 2025, 12:25:42
        
        Ohio State makes a lot of sense - illiniranger October 13, 2025, 12:38:18
        
        Oklahoma is close enough to Dallas/North Texas that they feast down there - illiniranger October 13, 2025, 12:41:11
        
        Talking about how they became powers, not the fact that they are powers... - uofi1998 October 13, 2025, 12:59:26
        
        why wouldn't OSU and PSU be great at football? - illiniranger October 13, 2025, 13:03:59
        
        tOSU has had payoffs as long (or longer) than schools like Texas, etc. - osklister October 13, 2025, 13:23:23
  - Hasn’t Purdue won more B1G championships than any other school?* - ATL October 13, 2025, 12:05:06
  - but Purdue is always good at basketball* - assassin October 13, 2025, 12:03:57
    - Yes, but it makes no sense that the third most important school in the state - Sounder October 13, 2025, 12:06:12
      - sure, it's just in no way comparable to Indiana football * - assassin October 13, 2025, 12:24:41
    - And not the losingest program in their sport like IU* - bjl63 October 13, 2025, 12:04:31
- Big difference between that and the metrics projections.* - voiceofreason October 13, 2025, 11:56:23
KJ’s 1st preseason game - 8 points, 10 A, 3 TO, 25 min* - memyselfandillini October 12, 2025, 9:24:44
- Ayo had 22 pts / 3 reb / 2 ast in 24 mins* - biclops October 12, 2025, 21:32:51
  - Calling my shot now, the Bulls will be a fun and good surprise this season. - Warrin'_Illini October 13, 2025, 11:13:39
    - It would also be nice if they valued draft capital* - bjl63 October 13, 2025, 11:47:40
    - Surpirse as in what? 8th seed instead of 9 or 10?* - bjl63 October 13, 2025, 11:47:07
      - 45-ish wins.* - Warrin'_Illini October 13, 2025, 11:48:04
        
        The East is pretty much trash so it could happen* - bjl63 October 13, 2025, 12:02:56
    - Buzelis might overtake Ayo as my favorite Bull. - illinilosch October 13, 2025, 11:43:33
      - He's awesome and would go top-2 in a redraft. Bulls are so fortunate he fell to them. - Warrin'_Illini October 13, 2025, 11:47:27
- Will Riley made 2 FTs with 0.8 left to put Wiz up 1 over Raptors - memyselfandillini October 12, 2025, 17:05:33
Preseason KenPom rankings out. We are 6th - GMAW October 12, 2025, 8:06:53
- AP Poll comes out tomorrow, really curious to see where we land. - OB25 October 12, 2025, 21:28:06
- How do they rank us so high with our player turnover?* - TarheelIllini October 12, 2025, 13:12:59
  - because we actually return a bunch of guys from last season? * - jdl October 12, 2025, 13:14:44
- Analytics love us. Kenpom 6, Torvik 7, Miya 8* - biclops October 12, 2025, 13:01:14
- Fun fact: KenPom is a curler in Utah* - Sounder October 12, 2025, 11:27:58
- projected 23-8, 14-6 * - jdl October 12, 2025, 8:07:31
  - Yes, please* - OWWDig October 12, 2025, 9:08:50
kenpom coach rankings - jdl October 10, 2025, 19:51:09
Some stuff from B1G media days - biclops October 9, 2025, 18:50:41
undefeated - biclops October 9, 2025, 15:53:42
- Chef’s kiss, the onion couldn’t do better* - ab75 October 9, 2025, 19:38:40
- Amazing amazing* - PapaDels October 9, 2025, 18:59:57
- Dotz - Sounder October 9, 2025, 16:13:54
- Someone had to have gotten to him. He’s gotta be trolling us at this point.* - Carl Spackler October 9, 2025, 16:10:30
  - Probably VIV.* - Warrin'_Illini October 9, 2025, 16:32:08
  - I still don’t think so* - OB25 October 9, 2025, 16:25:32
  - Yeah I think it ~might~ not have been a bit at first but now it definitely is * - meanjeans October 9, 2025, 16:19:43
- ROFFLES!! * - illinijohn October 9, 2025, 16:09:34
- Fantastic* - UofIL6 October 9, 2025, 16:03:57
- lolololol* - illini21 October 9, 2025, 15:58:49
Hot Ivisic Bros content - assassin October 8, 2025, 19:59:57
- Big Z doesn’t even look like the same person that played at Arkansas* - OB25 October 8, 2025, 22:05:15
Sidejack: I’m impressed with those of you able to keep up with the roster - DT October 8, 2025, 14:58:15
- I've been following HS recruiting since the mid/late 90s. - illinilosch October 8, 2025, 15:37:25
  - How can it be a bummer when we are a new blue blood in this era?* - JeffFrank October 9, 2025, 12:54:51
    - We’re not a blue blood. * - bjl63 October 9, 2025, 16:02:08
      - No where close. - illinilosch October 9, 2025, 18:36:34
        
        A few new green bloods, but I'd guess those historically great programs won't be able to keep up. - osklister October 9, 2025, 18:45:02
  - Kind of expecting a complete roster turnover every year. But... here we are. Paid players. Eh. - osklister October 8, 2025, 16:23:41
    - No one actually prefers this, right? - Sounder October 8, 2025, 16:25:01
      - Everyone says it’s great for the kids but nobody talks about the kids who just wanted to go to one - meanjeans October 9, 2025, 16:07:23
        
        Obviously the chances of going to the NBA are low - Sounder October 9, 2025, 16:28:00
      - Do I miss an era when you had guys for four years and watched them develop - Blazer October 9, 2025, 13:33:13
      - I think a revolution was sorely needed.* - opossum jenkins October 8, 2025, 17:15:27
        
        It's a complete overcorrection, IMO - Sounder October 8, 2025, 17:23:41
        
        I agree that the unlimited transfer options has to be changed. - illinilosch October 9, 2025, 6:26:55
        
        Tampering should not be allowed - bjl63 October 9, 2025, 13:51:00
        
        Imagine trying to get that genie back into the bottle. :-(( - osklister October 9, 2025, 9:08:43
        
        Contracts. I’ve accepted that I’m not going to be able to watch a guy come in as a freshman and - voiceofreason October 9, 2025, 10:46:26
        
        I really don't think revamping or changing the portal should be all that challenging. - illinilosch October 9, 2025, 9:15:24
        
        Marginally off-topic: I still recall when this all started, Dan Roan (CU and WGN-TV) said "fairness" - osklister October 9, 2025, 11:56:56
      - I 1000000% do - digs October 8, 2025, 17:12:37
        
        Same. These kids were taken advantage of for so long. - Carl Spackler October 8, 2025, 22:11:52
        
        I think it’s absolutely a far more just system, and way better for the athletes - DT October 9, 2025, 5:20:51
        
        Meh, I still watch every single game, listen to all the pressers, and root just as hard as ever* - Blazer October 9, 2025, 13:34:35
        
        I think it’s a worse fan experience for a smaller group than we’d like to admit. - Carl Spackler October 9, 2025, 11:03:08
        
        Like I said below, it certainly helps that we're winning - jdl October 9, 2025, 16:48:47
        
        I follow the team as close as I ever have, if not closer, probably due to our recent sustained - biclops October 9, 2025, 11:57:15
        
        As someone that used to be obsessed with recruiting, it’s been a feature too. - Carl Spackler October 9, 2025, 12:24:00
        
        I still follow the team, but have detached from caring about any particular players - ISeeDeadHawkeyes October 9, 2025, 12:17:33
        
        It's really killed my offseason interest. Offseason discussion just feels pointless - IlliniOllie October 9, 2025, 9:46:35
        
        This for sure, but as others said, that's a feature, not a bug - Blazer October 9, 2025, 13:36:53
        
        Yep, great for them, sucks for us* - reggiedunlop October 9, 2025, 9:22:02
        
        i like every part of it except unlimited free transfers. - assassin October 8, 2025, 17:17:27
        
        Completely agree* - illini21 October 8, 2025, 17:29:56
        
        Might be naive but I believe that will work its way out - digs October 8, 2025, 17:21:48
        
        My latter point is someone like ben humrichous - digs October 8, 2025, 17:26:32
      - I don't like how Illinois prep hoops has degraded, but that seems like it was coming with or - Warrin'_Illini October 8, 2025, 16:30:54
        
        Quite true re: Undy. Could anyone have foreseen this on the day he was hired? - osklister October 8, 2025, 16:40:43
- Such a strange place we're in - jdl October 8, 2025, 15:10:07
  - I keep up with them as long as they are on the team. But, once they leave, - jjlocke923 October 8, 2025, 15:22:55
- Illini Basketball is the only thing I follow to this extent. - JFG October 8, 2025, 15:02:11
  - Same * - jjlocke923 October 8, 2025, 15:23:21
- You think I'm going to be able to tell any of these slavs apart?* - ATL October 8, 2025, 15:00:22
  - Sure, there’s the little guy that looks 35, the bald one, the handsome one - assassin October 8, 2025, 15:09:57
Athletic article on Terrence Shannon (subscription required)... - Leif October 8, 2025, 14:41:47
- Stud* - CWR10 October 8, 2025, 14:58:45
Have been getting caught up on Illini bball content--what do we make of the Wagler hype train? - Blazer October 8, 2025, 11:14:45
- There's the UNDY gas factor going on, but it's not out of the ordinary for a 4 star - Warrin'_Illini October 8, 2025, 11:20:11
- I do agree it's more than normal. - JFG October 8, 2025, 11:17:30
- As usual, I’m taking it as somewhere in the middle - snipes824 October 8, 2025, 11:17:27
  - Yeah, this sounds right. At a minimum, seems like he will be ready to contribute right away - Blazer October 8, 2025, 11:24:30
Game times, TV schedule is out - jdl October 7, 2025, 15:08:48
- Ugh 8 PM for the UC game. Daughter is gonna be asleep by halftime.* - Carl Spackler October 7, 2025, 16:06:40
  - Three East Coast games on Fox that day. They'll get a 7:00 pm local start... - osklister October 7, 2025, 16:23:14
- That’s a ton of FOX games, good to see* - OB25 October 7, 2025, 15:47:05
- How would you tier these networks in terms of prestige? - biclops October 7, 2025, 15:44:44
  - In this order - JacobRDaugherty October 7, 2025, 16:51:00
2025-26 Pronunciation Guide - DocWalk20 October 3, 2025, 13:07:29
- Just saw this from a UNC friend….hahaha - TarheelIllini October 4, 2025, 9:00:24
Tomislav is low key funny - biclops October 3, 2025, 12:12:02
"there's not one job I would leave here for" - brad underwood today - snipes824 October 2, 2025, 18:00:26
- so, several jobs? * - jdl October 2, 2025, 21:10:50
  - You get a job!* - Toonces October 2, 2025, 21:45:22
- looking trim - biclops October 2, 2025, 19:11:51
- This Wagler stuff has me really excited. A guy I wasn’t counting on for anything might be another - Toonces October 2, 2025, 18:46:01
  - I watched KW play in a local shootout last Winter. - illinilosch October 3, 2025, 6:28:55
  - Keep in mind we’re firmly in “bigger, faster, stronger” season right now. I was glad to hear - voiceofreason October 2, 2025, 19:42:45
    - Yea, I looked at all of these comparisons as the evolution of Daddy Brad's "Elite" comments - OWWDig October 3, 2025, 11:01:25
  - What’s the Wagler stuff?* - shua October 2, 2025, 19:40:40
    - ooo - biclops October 2, 2025, 19:42:19
      - also see the 18 minute mark here - biclops October 2, 2025, 19:43:53
        
        I don't consume a lot of LaTulip content. Is he prone to exaggeration? - AintHatin October 3, 2025, 9:51:54
        
        He’s really just starting to blossom as a pundit* - CWR10 October 3, 2025, 9:55:31
        
        I'm just hoping he doesn't soft-petal this team's potential* - AintHatin October 3, 2025, 11:30:58
        
        Hey, Bud! Give him chance.* - DocWalk20 October 3, 2025, 12:22:21
        
        Our issues are going to stem from losing Riley* - Chilango October 3, 2025, 12:50:12
        
        if healthy, I think Stoj is a better college player than Riley on a day to day basis* - assassin October 7, 2025, 16:24:36
        
        something something bear fruit* - assassin October 7, 2025, 16:25:14
        
        Sounds like we may be a decent seed in the tourney then* - Chilango October 8, 2025, 9:15:18
- I don't actually believe him, but it's good to hear* - Sounder October 2, 2025, 18:01:05
  - too old to be hired by a blueblood, I think, which is really the only place you leave for, IMO* - cpsteine October 2, 2025, 18:16:14
    - Agreed, but doesn’t that make his statement technically untrue? - Sounder October 2, 2025, 18:50:55
Hey Blazer! - Poldark October 2, 2025, 15:11:00
- lol* - Blazer October 2, 2025, 18:44:06
  - Also, obligatory - Blazer October 2, 2025, 18:45:24
    - I love that they redacted the name of the author * - ATL October 2, 2025, 18:52:59
Every Day Guys: Kylan Boswell - biclops October 1, 2025, 19:13:37
- Nice ride, Kylan!* - ATL October 2, 2025, 12:24:22
  - BMW=everyday guy. :-O Eh, welcome to 2025. - osklister October 2, 2025, 14:43:59
    - Every Day != everyday* - Chuck Woodaby October 2, 2025, 14:47:40
Just got my tickets for the UC game vs Alabama * - biclops October 1, 2025, 11:29:27
- Man, I really want to go but being on a Wednesday it's going to be tough* - illini21 October 1, 2025, 12:54:16
  - Hey, made for TV so... give the (promoters) what they want. - osklister October 1, 2025, 14:40:39
- Are these on sale to the public?* - Carl Spackler October 1, 2025, 11:34:31
  - Yes. Got the email from the athletic dept around 10:30* - biclops October 1, 2025, 11:40:27
    - I was in and out getting my first row upper level just before that* - JeffFrank October 1, 2025, 15:32:26
Dear Brad: the Mets are trash, the Bengals are worse. Illini football is fun, but - voiceofreason September 30, 2025, 9:47:44
- The Bengals have singlehandedly taken down my fantasy team - Sounder October 2, 2025, 13:05:24
  - They are actually all awesome. The problem is that the whole Bengals system relies on - voiceofreason October 2, 2025, 15:04:58
- I endorse this message and feeling - OWWDig October 1, 2025, 12:50:08
Based on this, I wouldn’t rule out a deep run in the tournament - bbonb September 30, 2025, 9:37:57
Also , this is a few days old, but Latulip was on some podcast - biclops September 29, 2025, 19:22:49
- That David Niven/porn stache is something else. * - illinijohn September 29, 2025, 23:10:32
Brad Davison back at WI - biclops September 29, 2025, 19:21:28
- you could have told me they gave him another year of eligibility and I'd have believed you* - RVA September 29, 2025, 19:42:11
Apparently our "secret scrimmage" opponent is Florida * - jdl September 22, 2025, 20:04:41
- Another scrimmage against a scrub team* - JacobRDaugherty September 29, 2025, 19:49:50
been meaning to ask this. So, Coach Fletcher’s wife is… - bbonb September 22, 2025, 17:31:48
- Kilee, what you wanna do?? - osklister September 22, 2025, 17:57:42
pets heads = still attached, but hanging on* - assassin September 22, 2025, 17:16:58
Tomi wasn't cleared until 10/31 last year - jdl September 22, 2025, 17:16:21
- lots of teams loaded up on euros this year - biclops September 22, 2025, 18:08:53
  - It's the NCAA so every case is unique - jdl September 22, 2025, 20:02:41

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