and the worst part about Abu Zubaydah
He was cooperating before the torture. And the torture made him stop giving info. If you believe John Kiriakou, at least. Which is a dubious proposition, at best.  Previous Message Using methods used by the CIA Black Sites during the Bush Administration: https://www.forever-wars.com/torture-techniques-from-cia-black-sites-w ONE OF THE MOST horrific torture methods that the CIA employed in its post-9/11 incommunicado "black site" torture chambers was the Confinement Box. Not many detainees in CIA custody experienced the Box. The most prominent of them is the man known as Abu Zubaydah, the first CIA detainee post-9/11 and someone the agency used as a guinea pig for all who came into their custody later.... A CIA medical officer—don't be fooled by the title into thinking they were there to help the detainees—cabled that Abu Zubaydah's liturgy of torture "progress[ed] quickly to the water board after large box, walling and small box periods." ("Walling" is using a rolled-up towel, positioned behind someone's neck and held on either side by someone in front of them, to slam someone's head into a wall.) The large box was the coffin. According to the Senate report, during those twenty days, "Abu Zubaydah spent a total of 266 hours (11 days, 2 hours) in the large (coffin size) confinement box and 29 hours in a small confinement box, which had a width of 21 inches, a depth of 2.5 feet, and a height of 2.5 feet."... The four men interviewed by Amnesty International, as well as Florida-based organizations, told the organization about the ‘box’, described as a 2x2 foot cage-like structure located outside in the yard of “Alligator Alcatraz” where individuals are sent for punishment. Individuals are put in the ‘box’, their hands are shackled and their feet are attached to restraints on the ground. They are unable to sit down or move positions, and are forced to remain there for hours in the heat with hardly any water or protection from the sun, heat and insects. According to a man seeking safety, “People ended up in the ‘box’ just for asking the guards for anything. I saw a guy who was put in it for an entire day.”
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Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th* - JacobRDaugherty December 8, 2025, 7:13:28
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- The funniest thing of this political season - Stu December 14, 2025, 13:53:34
- Thoughts and prayers for Brown University* - Stu December 13, 2025, 17:03:32
- Dan Bernstein on Matt Shaw… - OB25 December 12, 2025, 19:14:20
- It’ll be interesting to find out how much in bribes he’s received for these pardons - ATL December 12, 2025, 18:25:35
- CBS is going all in on Erika Kirk. - larue33 December 12, 2025, 18:14:42
- Trump is gonna crashout this weekend. Lost Indiana vote, lost Garcia case, lost house vote on his EO - MC December 12, 2025, 17:13:17
- DJT hitting new low* - Stu December 12, 2025, 17:09:13
- I’ve been very critical of AI but you sometimes gotta hand it to AI - ATL December 12, 2025, 16:06:04
- Ooo - Sammich December 12, 2025, 17:00:02
- Good thing we pulled all that funding for mRNA research! - Carl Spackler December 12, 2025, 14:04:50
- I enjoyed this - TarheelIllini December 12, 2025, 7:38:30
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- Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith - RVA December 12, 2025, 6:51:23
- I bet he has riveting things to say* - CWR10 December 12, 2025, 18:25:27
- Feels like as good of a place as any for my question on the OU student - ISeeDeadHawkeyes December 12, 2025, 10:57:12
- That is an extravaganza of punchable faces* - Sounder December 12, 2025, 10:47:15
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- I always like these because you can see how they rank themselves. You know everyone on the second… - LeatherneckIllini December 12, 2025, 7:18:20
- Congrats to the Cubs for having active player representation at the event!*
- OrangeSox December 12, 2025, 7:14:21
- A lot of "who the f are they?" and "makes total sense they are a Nazi"* - DanSaint December 12, 2025, 7:12:18
- I feel like this should have gotten the music festival poster treatment - DT December 12, 2025, 7:09:22
- GA Republicans lose seat after they hastily call special election in Trump +12 state house district - ATL December 11, 2025, 20:05:24
- RFK, Jr's sidepiece's book flopped - ATL December 11, 2025, 18:21:39
- Probably apocryphal, but still worth a good chuckle. - complainant December 11, 2025, 17:44:14
- Poor Vivek may not win in Ohio - Stu December 11, 2025, 17:30:44
- Just 31% approve of Trump economy - Stu December 11, 2025, 17:01:28
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- Fetterman is lobbying to get Bibi a pardon - ATL December 11, 2025, 13:41:48
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- MyPillow loon thinks he will be governor of Minnesota* - Stu December 11, 2025, 11:03:36
- So, presumably because Nvidia bribed him, Trump is approving sales of their 2nd Gen chips to China - DT December 11, 2025, 7:19:27
- I'm looking forward to seeing who gives the biggest bribe to acquire Warner Brothers* - Sounder December 11, 2025, 11:07:06
- He will die one day - TarheelIllini December 11, 2025, 8:35:47
- I can also see a scenario where he wasn’t directly bribed, but was made to understand that - doubledown December 11, 2025, 8:24:12
- I don’t know how much they paid him, but two things are true. He could have gotten more, - doubledown December 11, 2025, 8:09:56
- So we’re apparently pirates now… - timmer December 10, 2025, 21:11:08
- Soybean farmers: Trump blows - Stu December 10, 2025, 17:30:46
- The LA Times’ new AI tool to generate opposing views posts KKK-sympathetic views - ATL December 10, 2025, 16:10:52
- More rate cuts!!! - timmer December 10, 2025, 13:35:50
- Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda. - OB25 December 10, 2025, 11:48:34
- What did you post last week? - DT December 10, 2025, 13:57:28
- It's not like it's a drivers license or passport - RVA December 10, 2025, 13:37:39
- Trump keeping out soccer hooligans is a big win IMO.* - Warrin'_Illini December 10, 2025, 13:37:25
- Number 969 in the list of things Trump says he's going to do and never figures out how to do. - Illiniphil December 10, 2025, 12:28:32
- Why is he destroying America? - timmer December 10, 2025, 12:21:57
- "I'll take things Nazis would do, for $100..."* - shua December 10, 2025, 12:05:41
- Just wondering...in practice...how? If it's for everyone and not just for visa holders... - haighter December 10, 2025, 12:03:06
- Maybe the silver lining here is that World Cup ticket prices will come down* - Sounder December 10, 2025, 11:58:36
- Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke - RVA December 10, 2025, 7:16:09
- This seems like more of a Wingdings administration.* - DT December 10, 2025, 10:32:08
- just as worthless and wasteful as a Congressional hearing on the CFP - Sammich December 10, 2025, 10:03:56
- It’s the intellectual equivalent of MAGA women disfiguring themselves to demonstrate loyalty. * - doubledown December 10, 2025, 9:21:40
- ooo - IlliniSax05 December 10, 2025, 7:57:01
- I doubt that anyone chose to adopt calibri. It is just the default font in Microsoft Word. - ATL December 10, 2025, 7:27:12
- Miami elects first Dem mayor in 28 years over Desantis/Trump endorsed candidate - ATL December 10, 2025, 6:50:54
- Real estate sellers in the sunbelt giving up on the market - ATL December 10, 2025, 6:05:03
- Not even trying to hide it anymore - OB25 December 9, 2025, 22:07:22
- Every time I watch Dumb and Dumber, she's just peak early 90s alternative GF hott. - KingTalkyTiki December 9, 2025, 13:34:09
- I like how Trump keeps telling people he knows nothing/very little about the people he pardoned* - ECEIllinois December 9, 2025, 12:44:31
- Perfect. - KingTalkyTiki December 9, 2025, 12:33:44
- Nick Fuentes being a virgin is a huge shocker* - AintHatin December 9, 2025, 12:18:17
- No Chicken for you, Lil' Greggy. - KingTalkyTiki December 9, 2025, 11:16:51
- Crockett entering the TX Sen race and Allred dropping out. Not good. - ECEIllinois December 8, 2025, 19:02:53
- Amnesty International reporting on prisoners at the Alligator Alcatraz being subjected to torture: - IlliniRunner December 8, 2025, 16:32:10
- and the worst part about Abu Zubaydah - VIV December 8, 2025, 19:13:59
- Trump getting ready to bailout the farmers again. Quelle surprise.* - Warrin'_Illini December 8, 2025, 13:28:54
- October inflation report not being published* - Mrap24 December 8, 2025, 12:29:35
- I just saw video of the shithead grabbing the "peace" prize himself and hanging it around his own - doubledown December 8, 2025, 8:03:40
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