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Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*

Posted by JacobRDaugherty <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JacobRDaugherty' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 7:13:28

so they released the person of interest in the Brown shooting*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 23:31:33, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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ICE arrested a Pentecostal Christian singer and labeled him “the worst of the worst”

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 17:57:20, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.psrmemphis.org/christian-singer-portrayed-as-worst-of-the-worst-as-ice-sweeps-memphis/

The 38-year-old Gomez was born in Guatemala. He’s been in Memphis for 20 years — cutting grass to make a living, and singing as part of his faith.

In a high-quality music video in front of Memphis landmarks, Gomez and his bandmates wear suits and ties as they sing a song of welcome to the Holy Spirit. The band’s Spanish-language name translates to “Vision of Emanuel Group.”

They travel across the country playing in Pentecostal Christian churches.

In October, Gomez and his younger brother Eber, also a traveling Christian singer, were pulled over in a traffic stop in East Memphis. They were sent to a Louisiana detention center and held without bond. Their story was featured in a special report published yesterday by the Institute for Public Service Reporting.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I might be sympathetic to them in this instance.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 18:00:13, in reply to "ICE arrested a Pentecostal Christian singer and labeled him “the worst of the worst”"

Are snakes involved?

I did consider whether he was the Latino William Hung*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 18:02:51, in reply to "I might be sympathetic to them in this instance."

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Are snakes involved?

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

The funniest thing of this political season

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 13:53:34, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/11/protesters-kristi-noem

Thoughts and prayers for Brown University*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 17:03:32, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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Also for Bondi Beach in Australia

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 9:00:38, in reply to "Thoughts and prayers for Brown University*"

I guess Good Guys With Guns can’t be everywhere, unlike what some former posters think

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Assailants are father/son*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 14:32:30, in reply to "Also for Bondi Beach in Australia "

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I guess Good Guys With Guns can’t be everywhere, unlike what some former posters think

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Wisch...

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 12:22:26, in reply to "Also for Bondi Beach in Australia "

https://x.com/wischlist/status/2000254291924385853?s=20

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I guess Good Guys With Guns can’t be everywhere, unlike what some former posters think

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This has to be a running gag now

No way it cannot be

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That might Mount Rushmore caliber*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 12:25:50, in reply to "Wisch..."

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https://x.com/wischlist/status/2000254291924385853?s=20

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I guess Good Guys With Guns can’t be everywhere, unlike what some former posters think

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

He's been there too.*

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 13:28:00, in reply to "That might Mount Rushmore caliber*"

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https://x.com/wischlist/status/2000254291924385853?s=20

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I guess Good Guys With Guns can’t be everywhere, unlike what some former posters think

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

They actually showed a video of an unarmed man tackling one of the gunmen in Sydney

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 9:15:27, in reply to "Also for Bondi Beach in Australia "

Looks like the Bondi attack was antisemitic. First night of Hanukkah celebration was going on. Disgusting.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I don’t understand why he let him just go back to the bridge? Dude ended up getting another gun and

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 14:46:33, in reply to "They actually showed a video of an unarmed man tackling one of the gunmen in Sydney "

shooting more rounds before the cops took him out

I get maybe not wanting to kill the dude, but i think i would have shot him in the leg or something and not just let him walk away

Because there was another guy on a bridge (higher position) shooting a gun.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 17:13:03, in reply to "I don’t understand why he let him just go back to the bridge? Dude ended up getting another gun and"

I would have probably kept the long gun for insurance but not sure I would have come out from behind the tree.

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shooting more rounds before the cops took him out

I get maybe not wanting to kill the dude, but i think i would have shot him in the leg or something and not just let him walk away

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Sure. But he took the gun, stood there and held it at him and just let him walk away*

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 17:43:47, in reply to "Because there was another guy on a bridge (higher position) shooting a gun. "

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I would have probably kept the long gun for insurance but not sure I would have come out from behind the tree.

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shooting more rounds before the cops took him out

I get maybe not wanting to kill the dude, but i think i would have shot him in the leg or something and not just let him walk away

I had the same reaction as you but who knows what was going on or how I’d react *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 17:54:36, in reply to "Sure. But he took the gun, stood there and held it at him and just let him walk away*"

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I would have probably kept the long gun for insurance but not sure I would have come out from behind the tree.

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shooting more rounds before the cops took him out

I get maybe not wanting to kill the dude, but i think i would have shot him in the leg or something and not just let him walk away

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Especially impressive what with not being able to wrap up*

Posted by Herman Blume <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Herman+Blume' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 14:35:34, in reply to "They actually showed a video of an unarmed man tackling one of the gunmen in Sydney "

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Looks like the Bondi attack was antisemitic. First night of Hanukkah celebration was going on. Disgusting.

And the tackler is a Muslim*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 10:31:23, in reply to "They actually showed a video of an unarmed man tackling one of the gunmen in Sydney "

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Looks like the Bondi attack was antisemitic. First night of Hanukkah celebration was going on. Disgusting.

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Apparently an aboslutely insane person*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 17:52:29, in reply to "And the tackler is a Muslim*"

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Looks like the Bondi attack was antisemitic. First night of Hanukkah celebration was going on. Disgusting.

Dan Bernstein on Matt Shaw…

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 19:14:20, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://x.com/312sportschi/status/1999625710605107686?s=61&t=obkYTPkbGlNfrGoozxL-mg

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Never read the comments.

Posted by WhitmansFolly <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=WhitmansFolly' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 5:21:01, in reply to "Dan Bernstein on Matt Shaw…"

Yikes. Should have known better.

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https://x.com/312sportschi/status/1999625710605107686?s=61&t=obkYTPkbGlNfrGoozxL-mg

Especially in that Nazi bar*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 6:05:30, in reply to "Never read the comments. "

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Yikes. Should have known better.

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https://x.com/312sportschi/status/1999625710605107686?s=61&t=obkYTPkbGlNfrGoozxL-mg

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

It’ll be interesting to find out how much in bribes he’s received for these pardons

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:25:35, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

and commutations.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/nyregion/david-gentile-trump-commutation.html?unlocked_article_code=1.8U8.96lF.RW6JOVatFZS9&smid=nytcore-ios-share

So when President Trump last month freed David Gentile, the convicted fraudster who ran the firm, GPB Capital, just days into a seven-year sentence, it was another bitter pill for the thousands of people fighting to get back their money.

The commutation of Mr. Gentile’s sentence undid years of work by prosecutors in Brooklyn to expose a scheme that defrauded thousands of investors, many of whom were older Americans living on fixed incomes. It raised questions among the victims and others involved in the case about why Mr. Gentile was given a second chance and what it meant for those he cheated.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

CBS is going all in on Erika Kirk.

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:14:42, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

A primetime town hall with somebody who was married to a guy that 90+% of Americans likely couldn't identify before he was shot, and not many more could identify him now.

Seems the interest of the Right in turning him into a martyr lasted for about 5 minutes before they started fighting over the scraps of his following.

So is JD. *chort* *

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2025, 13:28:27, in reply to "CBS is going all in on Erika Kirk. "

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

This Bari Weiss has never done anything

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:17:16, in reply to "CBS is going all in on Erika Kirk. "

And they put her ( them?) in charge of CBS News, so everyone quitting

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She is a garbage person*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 0:22:10, in reply to "This Bari Weiss has never done anything"

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And they put her ( them?) in charge of CBS News, so everyone quitting

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I've been trying to figure out who Erika reminds me of, and I just realized

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 6:18:07, in reply to "She is a garbage person*"

Tammy Fae Bakker

ooo

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:35:49, in reply to "This Bari Weiss has never done anything"

https://bsky.app/profile/nytpitchbot.bsky.social/post/3m7tbojs5s22m

Tucker Carlson is a grifter who has no real values and will say anything to get attention.

by Bari Weiss

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Tone deaf Katie Tur celebratedher husband's promotion to CBS Evening News anchor without mentioning

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:40:42, in reply to "ooo"

anything about turmoil, standards, etc.

Weird!

FWIW

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 13, 2025, 0:17:39, in reply to "Tone deaf Katie Tur celebratedher husband's promotion to CBS Evening News anchor without mentioning "

https://www.realitytea.com/2025/12/11/cbs-news-anchor-wife-not-loving-shift-right/

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anything about turmoil, standards, etc.

Weird!

All the more reason why a Paramount acquisition of WBD would be awful*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:18:36, in reply to "This Bari Weiss has never done anything"

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And they put her ( them?) in charge of CBS News, so everyone quitting

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Trump is gonna crashout this weekend. Lost Indiana vote, lost Garcia case, lost house vote on his EO

Posted by MC <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MC' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 17:13:17, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

And sounds like W appointed judge has ordered the ballroom building be halted.

Honestly he’s probably pissed about the ballroom the most.

Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some Tang, it'd be you.

As long as he gets to keep the bribes he was laundering through the ballroom fundraising.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:57:36, in reply to "Trump is gonna crashout this weekend. Lost Indiana vote, lost Garcia case, lost house vote on his EO"

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And sounds like W appointed judge has ordered the ballroom building be halted.

Honestly he’s probably pissed about the ballroom the most.

Also first D Miami mayor in 30 years*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 17:20:40, in reply to "Trump is gonna crashout this weekend. Lost Indiana vote, lost Garcia case, lost house vote on his EO"

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And sounds like W appointed judge has ordered the ballroom building be halted.

Honestly he’s probably pissed about the ballroom the most.

DJT hitting new low*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 17:09:13, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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What now?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:10:00, in reply to "DJT hitting new low*"

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His meme stock symbol

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:15:52, in reply to "What now?*"

It’s like a meme stock for his influence/ popularity

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I’ve been very critical of AI but you sometimes gotta hand it to AI

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 16:06:04, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Ooo

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 17:00:02, in reply to "I’ve been very critical of AI but you sometimes gotta hand it to AI"

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Good thing we pulled all that funding for mRNA research!

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 14:04:50, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://bsky.app/profile/khajdarovic.bsky.social/post/3m7soecb7sk2o

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I enjoyed this

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:38:30, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FK9tzYaWj/?mibextid=WC7FNe

The one thing I'll give Donald Trump a lot of credit for is that he's proven basically everything progressives have been saying about the Republican Party for the past 40+ years has been absolutely factual — and that nothing conservative voters have claimed they support and believe in was remotely true.

Their entire ethos is nothing more than simply opposing what Democrats support.

For decades, Republicans claimed to be the party for Christian values, small government, states' rights, the free market, keeping government and regulations out of private business, family values, the Constitution, limited government, fiscal responsibility, and opposing dictators/authoritarians — among a few other bullshit talking points.

Yet here we are with Trump, a president and human being who's literally the antithesis of every single thing I just listed.

He doesn't go to church, he's cheated on every single one of his wives, and he doesn't display a single trait of any value Jesus Christ is quoted as speaking about in the Bible. In fact, there are several parts of the Bible where Jesus specifically warns against and condemns people like Trump and those who might follow them.

Forget small government. Trump believes all of Congress, the judiciary, and each state should answer to him. He's on record trying to pressure sports teams into changing their names, trying to get people fired for saying things he doesn't like, and threatening states that pass any legislation he opposes.

Which brings us to states' rights — which I pretty much covered in the examples above. Then again, "states' rights" has always been the conservative go-to piece of propaganda when it comes to defending rights they want to keep (such as owning people as human beings and guns). However, when they have power, they couldn't give a damn about the rights of any states that do anything they oppose. At that point, they're advocates for massive federal control and trampling all over the rights of any state or local government.

Fiscal responsibility, what a joke. We all knew that's been a load of horseshit for decades. Even as a kid in my early days of following politics, it never made sense to me how Ronald Reagan was considered the "conservative icon" of the political party that claimed to be all about "fiscal responsibility" — when he added trillions to the national debt and never once balanced the budget during his 8 years as president. How are you "fiscally responsible" by adding massive amounts of debt?

Now we have Trump, who's going to add more to our debt than any president in United States history — even though, during his 2016 campaign, he claimed he would “eliminate the national debt very easily,” and currently claims that tariffs are bringing in “trillions in revenue.”

Obviously, he didn't “very easily” eliminate the nation's debt during his first four years in office. Additionally, despite his absurd claims that the tariffs are “bringing in trillions of dollars,” the debt continues to skyrocket.

This isn't complicated math: At $38 trillion (and rising), if we're actually bringing in “trillions of dollars from the tariffs” in only a handful of months, our nation's debt should be paid off within about 1–2 years, shouldn't it?

But there I go again, using facts, common sense, some fairly basic math, and Trump's own lies/propaganda to easily prove how completely full of crap he is — and how gullible someone has to be to believe anything he says.

Limited government, that's another complete joke. As I've already pointed out, Trump believes every aspect of this country, even when it comes to a state redrawing its congressional maps, should be approved by him. Trump is a president who's desperately trying to be a dictator, having every area of this country — from our media to the arts to education — completely controlled by him.

The free market and staying out of the affairs of private businesses? Yeah, you can't claim that when the backbone of his entire economic policy is massive, trade-killing tariffs. And he’s made it very clear that if any major corporation doesn't play ball with him, he'll do whatever he can to meddle, block, or interfere in their business. Just look at Netflix, which is trying to buy Warner Bros., but is very likely going to fail because Trump wants Paramount — a company that has kissed his ass — to be the one to buy them out.

Oh, yeah — "low taxes." Another complete con job. Donald Trump's tariffs have been one of the largest tax hikes on American consumers in modern history. You can't claim to be against raising taxes when you back a president who’s slapping a 10–20% or more tax on American consumers. This is just the GOP’s effort to pass a regressive national sales tax to eliminate income taxes so that the rich really don't have to pay much of anything — and the burden for funding this country is shifted even more toward the poor and middle class.

It was never a matter of if the GOP would eventually be taken over by a fanatical, wannabe dictator who demanded blind loyalty, was largely backed by racists and conspiracy theorists, and trampled all over the Constitution — just when.

It's not a surprise that it happened. It's not even a surprise that someone as blatantly incompetent and idiotic as Donald Trump rose to the top of the GOP. After all, if you tell conservatives what they want to hear, they will believe you, no matter how delusional, devoid of facts, or completely batshit crazy it is.

We've all seen this happening for decades.

So, while I won't credit Donald Trump with much, I will give him this: he's finally put on full display that practically everything progressives have accused conservatives of being over the past 40+ years was spot-on — and everything the GOP has claimed to be over that same period of time was complete and total bullshit.

Recrudescence

Reading more about the tanker, why haven’t we been doing this for years? It was so

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:26:30, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

obviously illegal, we should have been doing this all along. Both sides you would think would agree that’s a good job for the Navy. Old school 19th century anti-smuggling stuff.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/satellite-imagessuggestseized-tanker-deliberately-manipulated-location-data/story?id=128313185

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Expend blood and treasure on this in service of what strategic goal?*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:55:50, in reply to "Reading more about the tanker, why haven’t we been doing this for years? It was so"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I see that "no new wars"' is yet another Trump lie*

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They are sanctioned for a reason. Those would be the reasons. If the Biden NSC wasn’t so feckless….

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 8:48:28, in reply to "Expend blood and treasure on this in service of what strategic goal?*"

we wouldn’t be doing this now. It would have already been done.

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Good run down here:

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 8:53:36, in reply to "They are sanctioned for a reason. Those would be the reasons. If the Biden NSC wasn’t so feckless…."

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-oil-trump-sanctions-maduro-a2ef5b45b48365861e0a724d8c27dce3

The U.S. sanctioned the Skipper in November 2022, when it was known as the M/T Adisa, for its alleged role in a network of dark vessels smuggling crude on behalf of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard and Lebanon’s Hezbollah militant group. The network was reportedly run by a Switzerland-based Ukrainian oil trader who was also sanctioned, the U.S. Treasury Department said at the time.

In recent months, the ship has sailed to China with a cargo of Iranian oil, and it has also been linked to illicit cargoes from Russia, according to Windward. At the time of its seizure, Windward reported, the tanker was digitally manipulating its tracking signals to falsely indicate it was sailing off the coast of Guyana, which shares a border with Venezuela, and adjacent to a massive offshore oil field being developed by Exxon with strong U.S. support. It has also been falsely flying the Guyana flag, according to international ship registries, a major violation of maritime rules.

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we wouldn’t be doing this now. It would have already been done.

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That’s a good goal but I guess I wonder whether Venezuela is really a significant threat to us

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 15:06:40, in reply to "Good run down here:"

Certainly not on the same level as Iran or Russia

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we wouldn’t be doing this now. It would have already been done.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

How is Iran a threat to us?*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 15:11:29, in reply to "That’s a good goal but I guess I wonder whether Venezuela is really a significant threat to us "

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Certainly not on the same level as Iran or Russia

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we wouldn’t be doing this now. It would have already been done.

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Fair. Retracted.*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 17:27:38, in reply to "How is Iran a threat to us?*"

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Certainly not on the same level as Iran or Russia

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we wouldn’t be doing this now. It would have already been done.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

*taps map*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 15:11:12, in reply to "That’s a good goal but I guess I wonder whether Venezuela is really a significant threat to us "

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

If you’re enforcing sanctions, then say as much

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:42:49, in reply to "Reading more about the tanker, why haven’t we been doing this for years? It was so"

I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

Recrudescence

Obviously it’s part of the recent shenanigans but my question is why weren’t we doing this

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:44:24, in reply to "If you’re enforcing sanctions, then say as much"

all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

The fact that we weren’t makes me think that there are some concerns or downsides

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 10:10:12, in reply to "Obviously it’s part of the recent shenanigans but my question is why weren’t we doing this"

Maybe it’s just diplomatic, or maybe there are legal or logistical concerns. Now we have a tanker and a full load of oil—granting that we could prove it was in violation of a sanctions regime, does that have any force in international law? Can we actually confiscate the cargo or do we have to hold or return it? Ditto for the ship. And what would we actually do with the ship? Does this create a precedent that might damage US interests in some other area? Etc.

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

You mean its complicated and there is nuance and potential consequences to consider?

Posted by DocWalk20 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DocWalk20' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 10:30:05, in reply to "The fact that we weren’t makes me think that there are some concerns or downsides "

Thoughtful planningthat leads to Trump saying publically things like “IDK I guess we just keep it” gives confidence that all the right considerations and planning have been done, right?

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

It’s all flotsam

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 14:14:32, in reply to "You mean its complicated and there is nuance and potential consequences to consider?"

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Thoughtful planningthat leads to Trump saying publically things like “IDK I guess we just keep it” gives confidence that all the right considerations and planning have been done, right?

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

the question is why are we doing it now?

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:51:46, in reply to "Obviously it’s part of the recent shenanigans but my question is why weren’t we doing this"

It’s not for some military or global political goal. It is to benefit Trumps oil friends, who appear to have the pee tape and the epstein files.

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

It seems fairly obvious that part of this is to force a regime change*

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It’s not for some military or global political goal. It is to benefit Trumps oil friends, who appear to have the pee tape and the epstein files.

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

Shame on Maduro for having the largest oil reserves in the world.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 10:49:12, in reply to "It seems fairly obvious that part of this is to force a regime change*"

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It’s not for some military or global political goal. It is to benefit Trumps oil friends, who appear to have the pee tape and the epstein files.

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

exactly. We give a good goddamn about who is running Venezuala*

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 14:12:35, in reply to "Shame on Maduro for having the largest oil reserves in the world.*"

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It’s not for some military or global political goal. It is to benefit Trumps oil friends, who appear to have the pee tape and the epstein files.

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all along? It’s actually completely legal and aligned generally with US policy by both sides?

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I’m unclear of what the administration is claiming as their justification for the seizure

I agree that it should have been done sooner

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:47:10, in reply to "Obviously it’s part of the recent shenanigans but my question is why weren’t we doing this"

But again, here they aren’t doing it for the right reasons….more likely for themselves

Recrudescence

Now we do Pirate*

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:36:38, in reply to "Reading more about the tanker, why haven’t we been doing this for years? It was so"

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We did that off Somalia for a few years and very recently with the Houthis*

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Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 6:51:23, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

I bet he has riveting things to say*

Posted by CWR10 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CWR10' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 18:25:27, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

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Feels like as good of a place as any for my question on the OU student

Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ISeeDeadHawkeyes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 10:57:12, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

SHe's totally just trying to make herself the next Riley Gaines, right?

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Considering this is her mom...

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 14:32:41, in reply to "Feels like as good of a place as any for my question on the OU student"

I'm pretty confident this is just another grift

The piece of shit seldom falls far from the tree.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

I suppose it's possible it didn't start out that way, but now it is for sure*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 11:04:09, in reply to "Feels like as good of a place as any for my question on the OU student"

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SHe's totally just trying to make herself the next Riley Gaines, right?

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Turning manufactured outrage into grift and guest appearances is the conservative playbook

Posted by opey8 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=opey8' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 11:03:47, in reply to "Feels like as good of a place as any for my question on the OU student"

for mediocre people to avoid getting actual jobs

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SHe's totally just trying to make herself the next Riley Gaines, right?

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That is an extravaganza of punchable faces*

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Come on Bregman*

Posted by Herman Blume <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Herman+Blume' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 9:15:58, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

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Bregman is a rarity, white baseballer lib. Ricketty would probably adopt Shaw than sign him.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on December 12, 2025, 9:48:41, in reply to "Come on Bregman*"

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

I'd rather not*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 9:17:23, in reply to "Come on Bregman*"

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

A comma can be powerful thing*

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Couldn’t care less of a player’s personal politics, but this is a level beyond that.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 9:11:12, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

I’m kind of surprised the Cubs would allow this, considering how many vile things are likely to be said by some of the other speakers at this event.

Though I guess on the other hand I’m not surprised at all.

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

PHX residents should keep their underage children away from the area *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 8:39:49, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

So, does Riley Gaines talk about how women can’t compete with men while Danica Patrick nods along?*

Posted by Franklin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Franklin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 8:32:06, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

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I always like these because you can see how they rank themselves. You know everyone on the second…

Posted by LeatherneckIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LeatherneckIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:18:20, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

line is pissed they rank behind Megan Kelly. Kind of like being one of the old Politburo watchers.

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It's ranked by batting average.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 9:44:07, in reply to "I always like these because you can see how they rank themselves. You know everyone on the second…"

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line is pissed they rank behind Megan Kelly. Kind of like being one of the old Politburo watchers.

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

the sabermetric revolution has yet to hit the America First crowd

You'll take their AVG/HR/RBI stat line from their cold, dead hands!

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

That flyer had to have been harder to put together than any wedding seating chart*

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 9:01:22, in reply to "I always like these because you can see how they rank themselves. You know everyone on the second…"

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line is pissed they rank behind Megan Kelly. Kind of like being one of the old Politburo watchers.

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Congrats to the Cubs for having active player representation at the event!*

Posted by OrangeSox <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OrangeSox' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:14:21, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

A lot of "who the f are they?" and "makes total sense they are a Nazi"*

Posted by DanSaint <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DanSaint' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:12:18, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

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I feel like this should have gotten the music festival poster treatment

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:09:22, in reply to "Opposing pitchers persecuted me for my faith"

Russel Brand really shouldn’t have the same font size as JD Vance.

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GA Republicans lose seat after they hastily call special election in Trump +12 state house district

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 20:05:24, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

District was a cracked district where the Republicans split up Athens, GA into a bunch of different districts combined with the rural counties around it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5641566-democrats-flip-georgia-seat/

Democrats flipped a state House seat in a red-leaning district in Georgia on Tuesday, delivering the party another notable win heading into next year’s midterms.

Democrat Eric Gisler defeated Republican Mack Guest IV in the special election in Georgia’s House District 121, according to Decision Desk HQ.

Gisler’s victory is a major upset, as President Trump won the district by 12 points last year, Decision Desk HQ data shows. Still, Democrats were hopeful they could secure a win after a string of successful November elections — including flipping two seats on the Georgia Public Service Commission in November, sending shock waves through the state’s political circles — followed by an overperformance in a Tennessee special election earlier this month

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

RFK, Jr's sidepiece's book flopped

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 18:21:39, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2025/12/11/olivia-nuzzis-canto-sells-just-1200-print-copies-in-first-week/?utm_campaign=forbes&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bluesky

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Probably apocryphal, but still worth a good chuckle.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 17:44:14, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

"That's not how Donald says it to me!" Lofl*

Posted by WhitmansFolly <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=WhitmansFolly' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 22:21:26, in reply to "Probably apocryphal, but still worth a good chuckle."

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I pronounce it like that in my head often.*

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 18:59:05, in reply to "Probably apocryphal, but still worth a good chuckle."

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Legitimately bronchial.

is there a limit on how many times they can try to indict with the same charges? I assume no*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 18:54:06, in reply to "Probably apocryphal, but still worth a good chuckle."

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Presumably the presiding magistrate judge will have some discretion right?*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 20:07:17, in reply to "is there a limit on how many times they can try to indict with the same charges? I assume no*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Imagine working for the President, and then after that you have to go work the fry trough at McDs

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 18:50:20, in reply to "Probably apocryphal, but still worth a good chuckle."

because nobody will touch you.

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Poor Vivek may not win in Ohio

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 17:30:44, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5642908-democrat-gains-in-race-a

The Republicans seem particularly good at losing elections because of terrible candidates*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 17:55:23, in reply to "Poor Vivek may not win in Ohio"

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5642908-democrat-gains-in-race-a

except for the one, of course*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 8:39:23, in reply to "The Republicans seem particularly good at losing elections because of terrible candidates*"

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5642908-democrat-gains-in-race-a

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Uh, there is plenty of that to go around*

Posted by memyselfandillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=memyselfandillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 7:41:36, in reply to "The Republicans seem particularly good at losing elections because of terrible candidates*"

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5642908-democrat-gains-in-race-a

Right?!?! Kamala Harris lost to Donald Trump like a year ago. *

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2025, 8:37:38, in reply to "Uh, there is plenty of that to go around*"

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5642908-democrat-gains-in-race-a

Just 31% approve of Trump economy

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 17:01:28, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5644027-donald-trump-econo

Indiana Senate defies death threats and Trump's mafia threats, votes no on further Gerrymandering

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 15:44:08, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

not that I'm complaining, but why wasn't this a slam dunk?

Jake Sherman

@JakeSherman
INDIANA STATE SENATE has rejected redistricting.

19-31.

TRUMP's push for a 9-0 map failed. Big defeat for the Trump administration.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

Indiana is a comfortably red state but shooting for 9-0 seems like a potential dummymander.

Some of these Hoosiers might know ball.

Hopefully Trump goes HAM on them anyway.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

And now we see he follows through with his promise to cut government funding to the state*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 16:15:05, in reply to "Indiana Senate defies death threats and Trump's mafia threats, votes no on further Gerrymandering"

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

The Indiana Senate has substantially more brain cells than the House.

Posted by tvillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=tvillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 16:23:18, in reply to "And now we see he follows through with his promise to cut government funding to the state*"

It's a low bar... but the Senate was always going to be a problem for the redistricting. Apparently it was a substantial problem. If you removed the 10 Democrats from the vote, it still fails. That's a pretty big deal, IMO.

maybe, but they're still Republicans, who have not shown any previous desire

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 16:34:01, in reply to "The Indiana Senate has substantially more brain cells than the House."

to not do what they're told, especially in a state like Indiana.

Are they unique? Is this a sea change?

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

I still believe there are actually princpled politicians out there.

Posted by tvillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=tvillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 17:14:10, in reply to "maybe, but they're still Republicans, who have not shown any previous desire"

It was clear this was wrong. I don't care what party it is doing it, it's wrong. At the end of the day I think the vote should have been a lot closer. I think a lot of Republicans hated the idea of the blatant gerrymandering, but were to afraid to step away from party line. But then a bunch of Republicans that came out early and rejected the notion were getting SWATed, and had bomb/assassination threats against them. I think that had the opposite effect. Any time you go against party line the SWAT team is gonna show up at your house with guns drawn? Nah, time to take the sanity back. And then there was the threat that Trump is gonna spend 8 figures to primary these State Senators? LOL. Sure... spend that money.

Good*

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 16:05:55, in reply to "Indiana Senate defies death threats and Trump's mafia threats, votes no on further Gerrymandering"

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Fetterman is lobbying to get Bibi a pardon

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 13:41:48, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fetterman-letter-netanyahu-pardon

In a previously unreported letter obtained by TPM, Fetterman asked Israel’s President Isaac Herzog to pardon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

“In a world this dangerous, I question whether any democracy can afford to have its head of government spending valuable hours, day after day, in a courtroom rather than the situation room,” Fetterman wrote in a copy of the letter, dated Dec. 2, obtained by TPM.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Don’t understand that guy at all *

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 18:47:43, in reply to "Fetterman is lobbying to get Bibi a pardon "

He had a tramautic brain injury*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 18:57:08, in reply to "Don’t understand that guy at all *"

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lol.*

Posted by Ari Gold <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Ari+Gold' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 22:14:13, in reply to "He had a tramautic brain injury*"

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Boss, just so you know, I don't care if my asshole is full of genital warts

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 11:22:11, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

I still love you.

South Park is absurd.

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MyPillow loon thinks he will be governor of Minnesota*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 11:03:36, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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Is he running as a Republican?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 11:23:08, in reply to "MyPillow loon thinks he will be governor of Minnesota*"

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So, presumably because Nvidia bribed him, Trump is approving sales of their 2nd Gen chips to China

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 7:19:27, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

The admin’s entire AI and high tech strategy is predicated on the idea that a leading position in AI is critical for both national security and our future economic growth and independence. The sole advantage we have over China is in the frontier chip area, and Huawei has admitted they are 2 years away from being able to produce chips that match the H100’s now being allowed. Even if he was going to make this corrupt and anti-American decision, he could at least have negotiated some sort of concession on the part of China in return. But instead, the master of the deal just gave away this huge boon for absolutely nothing.

I remember when Republicans screamed about Obama agreeing to unfreeze a hundred billion in Iranian assets in return for their suspension of their nuclear program. This is a far bigger concession to a far more significant rival for absolutely nothing in return.

There is really no good argument to allow this—the position the Nvidia CEO has advanced, that this will promote dependency of China on US chips, is laughably and transparently wrong. And third parties are estimating that this will increase China’s total share of world compute by a factor of 5 or 6.

So, for a few tens of millions (guessing) in his pocket, Trump has agreed to sell out the future security of the country.

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I'm looking forward to seeing who gives the biggest bribe to acquire Warner Brothers*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 11:07:06, in reply to "So, presumably because Nvidia bribed him, Trump is approving sales of their 2nd Gen chips to China"

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He will die one day

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 8:35:47, in reply to "So, presumably because Nvidia bribed him, Trump is approving sales of their 2nd Gen chips to China"

Hopefully soon. But the destruction that he will leave in this wake will last for generations. And all of his supporters will either deny it was because of him or say ‘how could we have known he’d do this to the US and all the people’. They were so butt hurt that a decent black man was president for 8 years that they had to lash out

Recrudescence

The Chinese AI Robot invasion of 2027 will take care of it

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 10:51:17, in reply to "He will die one day"

As well as the rest of us

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(for rent)

The invasion is already happening. It's just online. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 12:04:46, in reply to "The Chinese AI Robot invasion of 2027 will take care of it "

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As well as the rest of us

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I can also see a scenario where he wasn’t directly bribed, but was made to understand that

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 8:24:12, in reply to "So, presumably because Nvidia bribed him, Trump is approving sales of their 2nd Gen chips to China"

he needs to fuel an AI arms race in order to forestall the looming economic cataclysm bubbling up into whatever numbers get reported.

But there is no scenario where he did this without seeing some direct personal benefit from doing it.

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I don’t know how much they paid him, but two things are true. He could have gotten more,

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 8:09:56, in reply to "So, presumably because Nvidia bribed him, Trump is approving sales of their 2nd Gen chips to China"

and would have done it for less.

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So we’re apparently pirates now…

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 21:11:08, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://us.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-us-seized-oil-201946333.html

We’ve just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela, a large tanker, very large, largest one ever seized, actually,” Trump told reporters at the White House, later adding that "it was seized for a very good reason.”

(for rent)

This is what happens when you let so many Somalian immigrants into the DoD.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 11:38:09, in reply to "So we’re apparently pirates now…"

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#56

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2025, 10:47:14, in reply to "So we’re apparently pirates now…"

Sp: Yes. Yes we very much are.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Soybean farmers: Trump blows

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 17:30:46, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://thehill.com/business/5642146-soybean-farmers-trump-relief/amp/

Welfare Kings better not be spending my tax dollars on potato chips and scratch offs.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 18:04:44, in reply to "Soybean farmers: Trump blows"

No wonder the leaches on society vote republican in huge numbers.

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Do they know it’s Christmas time at all?*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 17:36:28, in reply to "Soybean farmers: Trump blows"

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https://thehill.com/business/5642146-soybean-farmers-trump-relief/amp/

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

The LA Times’ new AI tool to generate opposing views posts KKK-sympathetic views

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 16:10:52, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/media/la-times-ai-kkk-comments

On early Tuesday, the new AI tool generated counterpoints to a February 25 column from Times columnist Gustavo Arellano. Arellano’s column argued that Anaheim, California, ought to not forget the Ku Klux Klan’s role in its past — calling the white supremacist group “a stain on a place that likes to celebrate the positive” — and connecting it to today’s political landscape. But the divergent views generated by the Times’ AI produced a softer vision of the far-right group, which it called “‘white Protestant culture’ responding to societal changes rather than an explicitly hate-driven movement.”

While the AI-generated comments have since been removed from the piece, and Arellano chimed in to say the “AI actually got that right” since “OCers have minimized the 1920s Klan as basically anti-racists since it happened,” the newspaper owner’s lack of awareness about the controversy is a glaring issue.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I’m confused

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 16:32:03, in reply to "The LA Times’ new AI tool to generate opposing views posts KKK-sympathetic views"

There’s an AI tool that is specifically designed to draft contrary views to inputs. A columnist wrote an anti-KKK article. The AI tool then did exactly what it was explicitly designed to do and generated dissenting views from the column. And views which dissent from an anti-KKK column are, in fact, not also anti-KKK.

What is surprising or controversial here? It’s like getting really mad that when you put 2+2 in your calculator it returns 4.

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Two things: first, I think a reasonably intelligent person could formulate an opposing view t

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 16:47:10, in reply to "I’m confused "

article that wasn’t in fact pro-KKK. Like, hey the people in OC in the 1920s were a product of their time, etc. Second, I remember a lot of people criticizing the “pro free speech” movement from three or four years ago erring by supporting views that didn’t deserve oxygen - I.e., the view that intolerance does not deserve tolerance.

So I guess the people who truly were libertarians and not just cynical racists (like the owner of the Times) may be naive about this.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

More rate cuts!!!

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 13:35:50, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

#winning

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(for rent)

Trump is angry*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 14:46:19, in reply to "More rate cuts!!!"

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#winning

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Rate cuts and no soccer fans? Golden Age confirmed.*

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#winning

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

In addition to rate cut, there's also a QE Lite component*

Posted by Stu <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Stu' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 14:25:00, in reply to "More rate cuts!!!"

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#winning

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Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 11:48:34, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

Can’t imagine this is actually allowed to happen but JFC.

“Trump to make all foreign tourists provide five years of social media history before entering US

The proposed social-media requirement would apply to all visitors, regardless of whether or not they need a visa.”

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/trump-foreign-tourists-social-media-history-5HjdPCX_2/

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

What did you post last week?

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 13:57:28, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

Please provide a bulleted list of your 5 top engagement posts from last week.

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It's not like it's a drivers license or passport

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 13:37:39, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

"What are your account handles?"

"I'm not on any platforms."

Trump keeping out soccer hooligans is a big win IMO.*

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Number 969 in the list of things Trump says he's going to do and never figures out how to do.

Posted by Illiniphil <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Illiniphil' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:28:32, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

I'll bet he's forgotten that he even said that by tomorrow.

It's like me telling my wife that I'll put up a picture hanger when she asks me during an Illini game.....I'll never even remember the conversation, let alone do what I said I would.

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Why is he destroying America?

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:21:57, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

Is it because Obama roasted him at the Correspondence Dinner way back when and he’s all butthurt?

(for rent)

Because Fred Trump was a horrible man*

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 13:10:48, in reply to "Why is he destroying America?"

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Is it because Obama roasted him at the Correspondence Dinner way back when and he’s all butthurt?

"I'll take things Nazis would do, for $100..."*

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:05:41, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

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Just wondering...in practice...how? If it's for everyone and not just for visa holders...

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:03:06, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

...giant line at customs with people plugging in their phones for a screening?

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That’s part of why I can’t see there being any way this actually happens.

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:28:03, in reply to "Just wondering...in practice...how? If it's for everyone and not just for visa holders..."

In addition to being terrible for the economy, it’s also logistically impossible. Especially with a World Cup happening in the country within the next year.

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...giant line at customs with people plugging in their phones for a screening?

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When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

At immigration but basically yes.*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:18:18, in reply to "Just wondering...in practice...how? If it's for everyone and not just for visa holders..."

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...giant line at customs with people plugging in their phones for a screening?

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Maybe the silver lining here is that World Cup ticket prices will come down*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 11:58:36, in reply to "Let’s add completely tanking the tourism economy to the affordability agenda."

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Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:16:09, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

The lack of serifs is further erasing what is left of white masculinity in this once-proud country.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rubio-stages-font-coup-times-new-roman-ousts-calibri-2025-12-09/

WASHINGTON, Dec 9 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Tuesday ordered diplomats to return to using Times New Roman font in official communications, calling his predecessor Antony Blinken's decision to adopt Calibri a "wasteful" diversity move, according to an internal department cable seen by Reuters.

...

"To restore decorum and professionalism to the Department’s written work products and abolish yet another wasteful DEIA program, the Department is returning to Times New Roman as its standard typeface," the cable said.

This seems like more of a Wingdings administration.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:32:08, in reply to "Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke"

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Comic sans *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 11:05:56, in reply to "This seems like more of a Wingdings administration.*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

just as worthless and wasteful as a Congressional hearing on the CFP

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:03:56, in reply to "Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke"

but with the added bonus of being 100% motivated by hate and bitterness

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

TBF, Calibri is a really gross looking font*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:07:42, in reply to "just as worthless and wasteful as a Congressional hearing on the CFP"

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but with the added bonus of being 100% motivated by hate and bitterness

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

it was not and is not an aesthetic choice*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:11:09, in reply to "TBF, Calibri is a really gross looking font*"

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Oh I know *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 11:02:29, in reply to "it was not and is not an aesthetic choice*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

It’s the intellectual equivalent of MAGA women disfiguring themselves to demonstrate loyalty. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 9:21:40, in reply to "Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke"

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Speaking of which I heard that Nancy Grace wrote a NYT oped about how she’s surprised that misogyny

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 11:04:50, in reply to "It’s the intellectual equivalent of MAGA women disfiguring themselves to demonstrate loyalty. *"

was going on in the GOP.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Can't wait for the before/after shots of places that revise their entire brand to incorporate TNR*

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 9:42:53, in reply to "It’s the intellectual equivalent of MAGA women disfiguring themselves to demonstrate loyalty. *"

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ooo

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:57:01, in reply to "Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke"

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Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

I doubt that anyone chose to adopt calibri. It is just the default font in Microsoft Word.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:27:12, in reply to "Mods, please change the board font to something that isn't woke"

Our company requires us to use Arial, which is also another Microsoft font. And a bastardization of Helvetica, because Microsoft was too cheap in the 1990s to license Helvetica.

Like Arial, Calibri is ugly.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Miami elects first Dem mayor in 28 years over Desantis/Trump endorsed candidate

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 6:50:54, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/09/miami-elects-first-woman-mayor-ends-gops-28-year-control-of-city-hall-00683878

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Just wait til all the ex-New Yorkers resettle*

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:14:26, in reply to "Miami elects first Dem mayor in 28 years over Desantis/Trump endorsed candidate "

The bigbop effect is truly undefeated *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:28:38, in reply to "Just wait til all the ex-New Yorkers resettle*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Oh dang, I forgot, this election already overcame the millions of Chicago transplants

Posted by RVA <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RVA' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 7:36:42, in reply to "The bigbop effect is truly undefeated *"

Where will Ken Griffin go now?

When you can't even buy an election in Florida anymore...

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:29:39, in reply to "Oh dang, I forgot, this election already overcame the millions of Chicago transplants"

Who will think of the billionaires?!?!?

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Real estate sellers in the sunbelt giving up on the market

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 6:05:03, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/08/home-sellers-delisting-high-rate-realtor.html

Some of the cities that saw the most price growth over the past five years are now seeing the largest share of frustrated sellers. Miami, Denver and Houston saw the highest ratio of homes delisted compared with newly listed.

The median list price in November nationally was 0.4% lower than November 2024, according to Realtor.com. It was still, however, 36% higher than November 2019, pre-pandemic. New listings were up just 1.7% from a year ago.

Price gains are much stronger in refuge markets, like Grand Rapids, Michigan, where they're up 5.5% year over year and St. Louis where they're up 5%. Cleveland, Milwaukee and Pittsburgh round out the top-performing refuge markets, according to the report. Prices in these markets are still 20%-30% lower than the national median.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

is "refuge market" really the best term they can come up with?

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:02:08, in reply to "Real estate sellers in the sunbelt giving up on the market"

this is the same industry that made an impossibly tiny house "cozy," or an old, rotting claptrap "full of character"

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Did you mean "clapboard?"

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 21:10:34, in reply to "is "refuge market" really the best term they can come up with?"

I don't understand if otherwise.

rust belt is not woke enough*

Posted by torinese <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=torinese' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:13:53, in reply to "is "refuge market" really the best term they can come up with?"

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this is the same industry that made an impossibly tiny house "cozy," or an old, rotting claptrap "full of character"

What are people who move to refuge cities taking refuge from? Are they refugees?

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:20:11, in reply to "rust belt is not woke enough*"

Do they eat dogs and cats?

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this is the same industry that made an impossibly tiny house "cozy," or an old, rotting claptrap "full of character"

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

they don't have to live like one, I know that much*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 12:30:48, in reply to "What are people who move to refuge cities taking refuge from? Are they refugees?"

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Do they eat dogs and cats?

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this is the same industry that made an impossibly tiny house "cozy," or an old, rotting claptrap "full of character"

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

we've had no offers on a tiny starter home in rural illinois in two months

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 6:17:18, in reply to "Real estate sellers in the sunbelt giving up on the market"

going to take it off for the winter.

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Not even trying to hide it anymore

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 22:07:22, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

https://x.com/acyn/status/1998567984340828249?s=61&t=obkYTPkbGlNfrGoozxL-mg

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Because people from Norway and Sweden consider this to be a shithole, Don*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 6:03:04, in reply to "Not even trying to hide it anymore"

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https://x.com/acyn/status/1998567984340828249?s=61&t=obkYTPkbGlNfrGoozxL-mg

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Every time I watch Dumb and Dumber, she's just peak early 90s alternative GF hott.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 13:34:09, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

You'd think that by now celebrities would realize that it's career suicide

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 13:37:03, in reply to "Every time I watch Dumb and Dumber, she's just peak early 90s alternative GF hott."

to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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Paramount/CBS begs to differ.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 14:23:29, in reply to "You'd think that by now celebrities would realize that it's career suicide"

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

trump is basically a cbs sitcom dad...overweight buffoon that has a hott wife and despite being

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 6:28:55, in reply to "Paramount/CBS begs to differ.*"

shitty at his job he keeps getting promoted.

i'd say he's homer simpson, but i think home has a good heart.

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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This reminds me of the Children's Nuclear Plant contest

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 11:16:49, in reply to "trump is basically a cbs sitcom dad...overweight buffoon that has a hott wife and despite being "

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shitty at his job he keeps getting promoted.

i'd say he's homer simpson, but i think home has a good heart.

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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Kevin Queens and the Still Standing guy had good hearts

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 10:09:44, in reply to "trump is basically a cbs sitcom dad...overweight buffoon that has a hott wife and despite being "

I'm not so sure about Ray Barone, but he didn't punch above his weight nearly as much as the other two. Plus, literally everyone in that show's universe was a miserable prick, so by those standards maybe he was OK.

I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

He's been a politically vocal guy forever, so whatever.

However, if you really think Drumpfhf is the best potus of all time......

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

yeah, that's what I can't really get past

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 13:47:48, in reply to "He's been a politically vocal guy forever, so whatever. "

I couldn't care less what his politics are, just that he's dumb enough to think that Trump is actually a good President.

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However, if you really think Drumpfhf is the best potus of all time......

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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everyone is scrambling to get what they can before the grift ends*

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2025, 6:29:49, in reply to "yeah, that's what I can't really get past"

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I couldn't care less what his politics are, just that he's dumb enough to think that Trump is actually a good President.

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However, if you really think Drumpfhf is the best potus of all time......

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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Tim Allen disagrees*

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 13:39:44, in reply to "You'd think that by now celebrities would realize that it's career suicide"

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

I've attempted to watch his show several times

because it's on right after Jeopardy. Man what a waste of top tier sit com talent.

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to say that you like Trump, and that you should be smart enough to know better, even if you believed it with all of your heart.

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I like how Trump keeps telling people he knows nothing/very little about the people he pardoned*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:44:31, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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I mean, it's true. All he knows is that they paid. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:55:50, in reply to "I like how Trump keeps telling people he knows nothing/very little about the people he pardoned*"

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It was always a witch hunt*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:46:55, in reply to "I like how Trump keeps telling people he knows nothing/very little about the people he pardoned*"

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Perfect.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:33:44, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Nick Fuentes being a virgin is a huge shocker*

Posted by AintHatin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=AintHatin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:18:17, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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Having sex with women is gay*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:42:11, in reply to "Nick Fuentes being a virgin is a huge shocker*"

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Even being attracted to women is gay*

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 14:43:23, in reply to "Having sex with women is gay*"

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He's saving himself for someone he really loves.

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:29:59, in reply to "Nick Fuentes being a virgin is a huge shocker*"

But as soon as they figure out cloning, it's on.

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Only if ghey xes doesn't count as xes*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:24:14, in reply to "Nick Fuentes being a virgin is a huge shocker*"

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

He is the literal hit you across the head stereotype of an incel*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 12:19:54, in reply to "Nick Fuentes being a virgin is a huge shocker*"

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No Chicken for you, Lil' Greggy.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:16:51, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

You love to see it.

Keep it up, New Orleans area...

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Crockett entering the TX Sen race and Allred dropping out. Not good.

Posted by ECEIllinois <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ECEIllinois' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 19:02:53, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

What about Switek and Zito?*

Posted by PapaDels <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=PapaDels' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 13:05:01, in reply to "Crockett entering the TX Sen race and Allred dropping out. Not good."

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

I have schweppervessence and wessonality.
Too sweet to be sour, too nice to be mean.

State is rigged; they will toss as many ballots as necessary so whatevs.

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 19:48:14, in reply to "Crockett entering the TX Sen race and Allred dropping out. Not good."

Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

Legitimately bronchial.

lol.

Posted by Ari Gold <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Ari+Gold' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 19:58:28, in reply to "State is rigged; they will toss as many ballots as necessary so whatevs. "

lol.

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

Your ignorance of basic facts is probably the reason you find disenfranchisement funny.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 23:06:16, in reply to "lol."

But I'm open to misanthropy and/or racism being the root cause.

Texas is not trying to hide its disenfranchisement efforts. They're litigating them.

I don't think she has the juice to win statewide (in Texas)*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 19:56:10, in reply to "State is rigged; they will toss as many ballots as necessary so whatevs. "

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

I don't know much about her politics or how progressive she is. Often times that is just code

for opinionated minority (especially female).

But the fact that she's aggressive and outspoken makes me think she is the only one who has a chance, especially because it's Texas.

However I do like the other candidate quite a bit. I caught a few clips of him with Joe Rogan (barf) and thought he was good.

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

I think Talerico would do better as governor than Senator *

Posted by JacobRDaugherty <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JacobRDaugherty' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 11:33:56, in reply to "I don't know much about her politics or how progressive she is. Often times that is just code"

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

Can Aikman run as a Dem? Might be the only hope*

Posted by reggiedunlop <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=reggiedunlop' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 22:07:48, in reply to "I don't think she has the juice to win statewide (in Texas)*"

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

Alfred seems like a perfectly nice guy who will get whalloped like that Air Force lady who

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 20:11:40, in reply to "I don't think she has the juice to win statewide (in Texas)*"

always runs against McConnell.

Roll the dice with whoever wins the primary, it won’t matter in Texas.

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

Legitimately bronchial.

however, his name is worth 1-2 points for republicans that don't pay close attention

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2025, 7:55:59, in reply to "Alfred seems like a perfectly nice guy who will get whalloped like that Air Force lady who "

to detail

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always runs against McConnell.

Roll the dice with whoever wins the primary, it won’t matter in Texas.

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Also isn’t there a primary? Let the voters decide.

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Dems are going to do a tea party speed run I guess.

Amnesty International reporting on prisoners at the Alligator Alcatraz being subjected to torture:

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 16:32:10, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

Using methods used by the CIA Black Sites during the Bush Administration:

https://www.forever-wars.com/torture-techniques-from-cia-black-sites-w

ONE OF THE MOST horrific torture methods that the CIA employed in its post-9/11 incommunicado "black site" torture chambers was the Confinement Box.

Not many detainees in CIA custody experienced the Box. The most prominent of them is the man known as Abu Zubaydah, the first CIA detainee post-9/11 and someone the agency used as a guinea pig for all who came into their custody later....

A CIA medical officer—don't be fooled by the title into thinking they were there to help the detainees—cabled that Abu Zubaydah's liturgy of torture "progress[ed] quickly to the water board after large box, walling and small box periods." ("Walling" is using a rolled-up towel, positioned behind someone's neck and held on either side by someone in front of them, to slam someone's head into a wall.) The large box was the coffin. According to the Senate report, during those twenty days, "Abu Zubaydah spent a total of 266 hours (11 days, 2 hours) in the large (coffin size) confinement box and 29 hours in a small confinement box, which had a width of 21 inches, a depth of 2.5 feet, and a height of 2.5 feet."...

The four men interviewed by Amnesty International, as well as Florida-based organizations, told the organization about the ‘box’, described as a 2x2 foot cage-like structure located outside in the yard of “Alligator Alcatraz” where individuals are sent for punishment. Individuals are put in the ‘box’, their hands are shackled and their feet are attached to restraints on the ground. They are unable to sit down or move positions, and are forced to remain there for hours in the heat with hardly any water or protection from the sun, heat and insects. According to a man seeking safety, “People ended up in the ‘box’ just for asking the guards for anything. I saw a guy who was put in it for an entire day.”

and the worst part about Abu Zubaydah

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 19:13:59, in reply to "Amnesty International reporting on prisoners at the Alligator Alcatraz being subjected to torture: "

He was cooperating before the torture. And the torture made him stop giving info.

If you believe John Kiriakou, at least.
Which is a dubious proposition, at best.

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Trump getting ready to bailout the farmers again. Quelle surprise.*

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

if only they hadn't got rid of USAID. that helped US farmers as much as foreign poverty...

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 14:51:29, in reply to "Trump getting ready to bailout the farmers again. Quelle surprise.*"

similar to food stamps

Soft power is for pussies. Glad Elon & Co. were allowed to destroy that with no questions asked.

China already stepping up in our stead.

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similar to food stamps

You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Internationally cresting a problem, then bailing out that problem

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 14:13:49, in reply to "Trump getting ready to bailout the farmers again. Quelle surprise.*"

And looking for praise/passing it off as you doing something great. What a country.

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Just remember this isn't what a majority of farmers voted for.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 13:49:45, in reply to "Trump getting ready to bailout the farmers again. Quelle surprise.*"

*wink wink*

"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

is it at least American farmers this time?*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 13:37:29, in reply to "Trump getting ready to bailout the farmers again. Quelle surprise.*"

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I want to break it up
I want to smash it up
I want to #### it up
I want to watch it come down

Russian potato farmers*

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 13:38:02, in reply to "is it at least American farmers this time?*"

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October inflation report not being published*

Posted by Mrap24 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Mrap24' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 12:29:35, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

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oOo

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 13:50:57, in reply to "October inflation report not being published*"

https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/msg/1763671080.html

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"You must own the honor of being the whitest, military vet, fat, multiple state property owner but most of all the one who hates their own country the most in our country."

Will get bad come February. All of my wine I got in pre tariff is gone as of last week

Posted by JacobRDaugherty <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JacobRDaugherty' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 12:37:13, in reply to "October inflation report not being published*"

I definitely passed that cost on to the customers. We did modify bill of landing.

Paying for shipping at the winery before shipping and then paying for the goods later. Drops the tariff a bit. On volume of 5500 cases this year it adds up.

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Dont you work at a restaurant for rich people?*

Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ISeeDeadHawkeyes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 16:04:38, in reply to "Will get bad come February. All of my wine I got in pre tariff is gone as of last week"

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I also broker in wine. Small part of my income. More to get a company to pay for my

Posted by JacobRDaugherty <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JacobRDaugherty' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 21:16:18, in reply to "Dont you work at a restaurant for rich people?*"

Flights and Accommodations while visiting producers in Europe and California

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Biden's fault I'm sure*

Posted by WhitmansFolly <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=WhitmansFolly' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 12:31:05, in reply to "October inflation report not being published*"

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I just saw video of the shithead grabbing the "peace" prize himself and hanging it around his own

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 8:03:40, in reply to "Political thread of the week Dec. 8th-14th*"

neck, then grinning like an 85 IQ troglodyte.

Was that AI generated? It seemed too dumb to be real.

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Side by side it with the Grinch.*

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 9:08:31, in reply to "I just saw video of the shithead grabbing the "peace" prize himself and hanging it around his own"

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neck, then grinning like an 85 IQ troglodyte.

Was that AI generated? It seemed too dumb to be real.

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Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

Ooo

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 8, 2025, 14:28:36, in reply to "Side by side it with the Grinch.*"

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neck, then grinning like an 85 IQ troglodyte.

Was that AI generated? It seemed too dumb to be real.

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