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Yeah, it’s more a general observation from all games

Posted by snipes824

on December 10, 2025, 10:21:03, in reply to "Quick turnaround may have affected him *"

Edited by snipes824 on December 10, 2025, 10:28:42

I missed UConn, his best game, so I could be skewed. But he just looks lumbering to me. Completely aside from hitting 3’s, and aside from getting tired, there’s just a slowness there that I’m noticing. Like people say Mirk is a lumbering runner (which he is), and a below the rim athlete (which he is), but he looks like lightning compared to Tomi right now. At least to me.

Maybe it is just still the conditioning. We’ll see.

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He seems really lumbering right now, and I don’t think it’s fully conditioning. Has he put on too much weight? It doesn’t look like it to the naked eye, but there’s a slowness to his movements that go beyond being tired.

His rebound numbers are 4, 3, 4, 5, 10, 5, 2 (and I missed the 10 game)

He was never an explosive athlete, but it just doesn’t look… smooth right now.

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Illinois AP 13, Kenpom 11, NET 13
Ohio State AP NR, Kenpom 34, NET 44

Currently a Q1 game for us

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Illinois (-4.5) at Ohio State 6:30pm on Peacock/NBCSN - biclops December 9, 2025, 7:31:21

Not happy the evraska game is another Peacock* - RSMBob December 11, 2025, 15:28:07
- Check if you get the recently resurfaced NBCSN channel with your cable/streaming provider. - OB25 December 11, 2025, 15:31:06
opo - timmer December 11, 2025, 13:26:45
Gonna need to be ready for a fight on Saturday, Evraska is tough and well-coached. Up 20 on WIS* - OB25 December 10, 2025, 21:21:05
I'm amazed teams haven't scouted Wagler's spin and started taking it away more - Blazer December 10, 2025, 16:38:11
4 seed on the matrix - jdl December 10, 2025, 14:00:06
- it's Dec 10th and your looking at the matrix, lol* - bucktownillini December 10, 2025, 14:23:47
  - you're - jdl December 10, 2025, 14:31:43
    - way to deflect, =0* - bucktownillini December 10, 2025, 14:43:13
      - lulz * - jdl December 10, 2025, 16:48:17
for fun, i looked at 3 different mocks that have been updated in last 2 weeks. we have 5 different - John Coctostan December 10, 2025, 11:49:57
- It will never happen, but the mind can’t help to wander to think about next year COULD be - OB25 December 10, 2025, 12:05:50
  - for sure. but i do feel like in order for us to be S16 worthy, seems one of Tomi, Andrej, Keaton - John Coctostan December 10, 2025, 12:13:48
  - Ridiculous that Ben gets six years eligibility and Kylan gets four. * - illini December 10, 2025, 12:11:46
  - Morello too. I like Morello game.* - Toonces December 10, 2025, 12:09:08
    - I don't know how to feel about him - illini21 December 10, 2025, 12:13:14
In our first 5 games, Ben had 32 3 pt attempts in 116 min of play. In our last 5 games he’s had 10 - meanjeans December 10, 2025, 11:05:28
- The less he shoots the better* - MtHoodIllini December 10, 2025, 19:03:15
- It feels like more of a function of the changing offense than an evolving role* - reggiedunlop December 10, 2025, 12:11:09
- I think he's now the guy who just goes out and does the dirty/little things - ATL December 10, 2025, 12:00:17
I’m slightly worried about Tomi - snipes824 December 10, 2025, 9:54:15
- i will be if still like this after new year. hopefully just slow getting up to speed* - John Coctostan December 10, 2025, 11:47:01
- Quick turnaround may have affected him * - jdl December 10, 2025, 10:07:35
  - That’s what I’m thinking. He looked really good in the prior game. Hopefully just still building - DocWalk20 December 10, 2025, 10:27:56
    - Yeah, conditioning is as much about how long recovery takes* - Blazer December 10, 2025, 11:50:15
  - Yeah, it’s more a general observation from all games - snipes824 December 10, 2025, 10:21:03
  - yah, he is not fully conditioned yet. Petrovic is the worry - Tooldresser December 10, 2025, 10:18:06
NET 12 * - jdl December 10, 2025, 9:37:43
I want to talk about Andrej’s second half D on Thornton - illini December 10, 2025, 8:49:21
- OTOH, I want to talk about Kylan’s D lately. - Carl Spackler December 10, 2025, 9:14:05
  - It seems to me that he’s a great defender but only against certain kinds of players - OB25 December 10, 2025, 11:31:05
  - Yeah, it hasn't been great* - reggiedunlop December 10, 2025, 10:22:52
- Was Peja a defender? His kid's style of play on offense was not at all what I was expecting* - RVA December 10, 2025, 8:52:15
  - It was something that Underwood talked about all summer... - JFG December 10, 2025, 14:49:15
UNDY undersold Keaton Wagler. I don't know what to do with my hands. - Warrin'_Illini December 10, 2025, 8:37:10
- The freshman Ayo comp wasn’t hyperbole after all, not just because Wagler is very good but also… - OB25 December 10, 2025, 9:13:38
  - Agree, Swagler will be on the Sacramento Kings next year.* - Warrin'_Illini December 10, 2025, 9:48:30
    - Don't you put that evil on him, Warren!* - Sammich December 10, 2025, 9:57:26
      - Fair. How about the Denver Nuggets? - Warrin'_Illini December 10, 2025, 9:58:47
- His poise and pace is just unreal for a freshman. - JFG December 10, 2025, 8:46:14
So TTU is back to a Q1 win. So we’re 3-2 with another opportunity on Saturday.* - ATL December 10, 2025, 8:25:46
They mentioned on the broadcast that this was the 195th meeting of Illinois & Ohio State - biclops December 10, 2025, 7:35:18
- everything is slowly dying. entropy is more than a river in zimbabwe* - Nobster December 10, 2025, 7:49:47
Feels like Zvonimir makes the big shots that Ben typically doesn’t * - biclops December 10, 2025, 7:27:42
- He’s in the perfect role and will win us a few games in conference play* - CWR10 December 10, 2025, 7:52:51
That's a game we lose a million times. Awesome to see the guys grit it out.* - JFG December 10, 2025, 0:14:50
Twitter saying on that High Knees call against Tomi down the stretch - Blazer December 9, 2025, 22:20:48
- Ump calling strike three because the batter started toward first* - RVA December 10, 2025, 7:19:12
- Fuck that guy* - Ron McDon December 10, 2025, 6:07:17
- High knees is not a good official* - Mrap24 December 9, 2025, 22:24:39
  - Long list of bad officials in the B1G: this guy happens to have a trademarkable item. - osklister December 10, 2025, 11:35:40
- I've mentioned this previously - jdl December 9, 2025, 22:24:08
So, who were the guys in the tracksuits behind the bench? They are in the locker room post game.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 21:27:51
- anyone know where to buy those? Maybe it's a basic track suit and custom embroidery?* - Nobster December 10, 2025, 7:48:48
- I know one of them. Guy works in development at U of I.* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 21:56:43
- Rockapella* - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 21:35:39
  - doo wop POW* - assassin December 9, 2025, 23:26:22
Z is playing well. 13 and 8 in only 19 minutes* - memyselfandillini December 9, 2025, 21:08:22
Wagler having fun lol* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:56:53
- Great interview. * - harb December 9, 2025, 21:01:20
Best part is we played good basketball in back to back games against tournament teams… - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 20:55:56
- OSU is not a tournament team IMO but also not a pushover at home* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 21:13:12
  - They should be with what they have. But Diebler gonna Diebler. - JFG December 10, 2025, 0:16:20
Also first win in the new blues! Hi Blazer!* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:55:40
- Turgid* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:55:59
Who knew Josh Gad moonlights as an announcer on NBC* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:54:58
Id like to go 2-0 in the early conference games - apusikam December 9, 2025, 20:54:51
Id like to go 2-0 in the early conference games - apusikam December 9, 2025, 20:54:43
It’s amazing to me that two Big 10 schools have given Gabe Cupps a scholarship* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:53:35
- And it's not PSU, MN or Rutgers * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:54:51
Up from #11 to #9 in KenPom. And back to back wins that should be locks to stay Q1* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:52:52
- Top 10 offense again. Nepo baby Tyler has us #5 - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:54:07
  - Defense down to 23.* - Mrap24 December 9, 2025, 21:14:09
    - Need to keep that top 20, but miles better than the last few years* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 21:36:27
I don’t think osu is great, but Thornton alone is enough to beat the lower half teams and - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:52:51
Somebody needs to stop letting Evan Turner huff helium off camera* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:48:43
- ooo - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:57:17
  - lmao* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:58:41
- Lol, perfect.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:49:55
Seriously, we can’t take Wagler for granted - illini21 December 9, 2025, 20:48:35
- Preseason Brad hype is actually true * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:58:17
- It’s the kind of thing that has always happened for Purdue and Wisconsin. - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:51:41
  - That’s a good idea for a spinoff thread - DT December 10, 2025, 7:52:53
- only major offers were us and Minnesota? Just wild* - ECEIllinois December 9, 2025, 20:49:46
The broadcast has been talking about it, but 2 freshman in their first road B1G game * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:47:39
- Huge. Meanwhile their bench scored only 2 points. Depth is big for us* - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 20:49:04
Solid win. Mirk and Wagler looked good. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:47:04
Thornton had, what, 8 in second half? - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:45:43
- AS did a fantastic job on him in the 2nd half.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:47:33
  - Also had a critical unforced TO late* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:49:15
- Put some length on him, denied him the ball* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:47:02
  - This. Just wasn't Boswell's night on either end* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:47:44
    - Nope and we still won by 8. Great sign* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:48:35
- Props to your confidence in him not being able to maintain.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:46:52
- But he made sure to go fill those stats at the end there.* - Mrap24 December 9, 2025, 20:46:14
Fuck Ohio St Always and Forever!!* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 20:45:41
- Re: Fuck Ohio St Always and Forever!!* - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:46:24
  - Re: Fuck Ohio St Always and Forever!!* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:47:18
I think this win holds up* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:45:35
can we get the 8x -7x?* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:45:34
- denied* - Orangeillini December 9, 2025, 20:45:49
- No* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:45:47
Ballgame. Fuck you high knees* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:45:26
- 100%* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:47:42
- this.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:45:44
Love this team, so much fun!* - Toonces December 9, 2025, 20:45:06
Thank god for freshman.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:44:40
Big Z..* - harb December 9, 2025, 20:44:18
Twice that they made sure not to let a single second of possession pass* - RVA December 9, 2025, 20:44:10
New players. Still with inbound struggles. Good D after the turnover though.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:43:34
z!* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:43:33
Z! * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:43:18
come on.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:42:55
Jesus* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:42:51
this games been between 3 and 7 the whole time, hasn't it?* - apusikam December 9, 2025, 20:39:07
- yep.* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 20:42:37
- But we’ve led virtually the whole way. Maybe 1-2 lead changes?* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:40:30
  - no real runs in the second half by either team* - apusikam December 9, 2025, 20:41:39
    - Refs made gaining momentum difficult* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:44:34
      - for sure* - apusikam December 9, 2025, 20:45:46
- We went up 10 in the 1st half briefly* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:40:24
don’t foul.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:39:04
Nice D, Z* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:38:50
- Yes it was. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:39:45
- Was waiting for the high knees foul call * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:39:20
  - Kind of shocking he didn’t* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:41:34
Hell yeah…Tomi got the bounce for 3. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:38:25
we got one over the front rim!* - OrangeSox December 9, 2025, 20:38:20
Tomi!!! Finally!* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:38:05
Cmon close this out damnit* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:38:05
Boswell vs layups last year, Boswell vs the front iron this year* - OrangeSox December 9, 2025, 20:37:54
TOMI! No doubt about it! ;-)* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:37:37
- ball don’t lie. lol.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:38:17
Oh, needed that * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:37:35
Andrej had the drive. I know he wanted to run clock but you gotta take that* - snipes824 December 9, 2025, 20:36:26
- yup, good chance for an and one * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:37:56
- agreed.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:36:49
Don’t love that shot from Bos. Feed it to Wagler or Andrej and attack* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:36:24
- Yep. Not a good shot. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:36:44
Tomi is soft as hell* - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 20:36:19
Take it at them. They’ll call the foul. * - illini December 9, 2025, 20:36:10
- Except this time they won’t. Anderson ready to swallow his whistle now.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:36:45
- brad just told him that.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:36:29
Just gross* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:35:59
Is there anywhere that tracks how many fouls were called by a given ref after a game? - IlliniSax05 December 9, 2025, 20:33:38
- I’m pretty sure all of them.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:34:01
We have to listen to Haywood again on Saturday. C’mon, Peacock.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:33:18
45 fouls called* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:32:42
- Fireable.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:33:35
- insane.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:33:09
Really dumb but Anderson truly sucks at his job* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:32:34
- He’s the second coming of Teddy TV. But Teddy was actually a decent ref* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:33:39
Jeffrey Anderson show, we're all lucky to observe him* - OrangeSox December 9, 2025, 20:32:24
- It's like watching MJ in his prime. - Chuck Woodaby December 9, 2025, 20:34:01
  - like you woul'd be there* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 20:35:37
That was fuking weak as hell. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:31:55
That is a ridiculous call. Unbelievable* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:31:44
Motherfucking high knees* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:31:16
- has to be on the take tonight.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:32:20
High knees is a fucking joke* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:31:05
- You can’t do that if you’re Tomi, incredibly high risk/low reward given the situation + these refs* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:33:10
  - lol* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 20:33:56
Get the eff out, Anderson. What in the absoulute fuck?!* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:31:03
6 TOs, 2 challenges and refs who can’t not blow the whistle - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:31:01
God dammit Tomi* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:30:56
6 TOs, 2 challenges and refs who can’t not blow the whistle - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:30:56
lol at that no call.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:30:22
Get the fucking rebound and it’s probably game* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:29:18
Wow. We fouled Mobley on the missed three.* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 20:28:53
Same step through. Exquisite in that case* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:28:30
OMG..Wagler for 3. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:28:29
Same steps by Mobley. No travel* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 20:27:48
- Said the same thing. He just didn’t stride as far so somehow not a travel.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:28:33
That’s damn near ballgame if Kylan’s bucket counts* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 20:25:47
I don’t understand how the same shit refs year after year stay employed.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:24:28
- wtf. just like the offensive foul early in the hal. just fuckin ponderous* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 20:26:14
No way* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:24:27
High knees is an absolute embarrassment. Has to be the star of the show.* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:24:14
- It’s literally all him, too. DJ has been fine* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 20:25:00
Not a travel. Is that challengeable?* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:24:13
- only OB, goal tends and restricted area charges * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:26:39
- Fucking awful* - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 20:24:38
- I don’t think so* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 20:24:31
Fuck off refs* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:24:01
NOT a travel. OMG.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:23:43
Fucking shitty refs *( - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:23:33
How is that not an intentional. After the Boswell farce* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:22:42
- no idea. and they didn’t even look at it?* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:24:20
That’s an obvious intentional foul, of course they don’t even look* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:21:51
intentional?* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:21:28
- Should be* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 20:21:43
  - No play on the ball = flagrant, right?* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:24:27
    - Supposed to be. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:25:20
Big shot by Andrej. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:20:37
Wow.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:20:13
good ft defense again tonight.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:19:50
Mirk is a total spaz out there.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 20:19:04
- He definitely gets sped up* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:19:31
Man. Finish that Mirk* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:18:42
ffs.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:18:13
Flop…flop….flop….* - harb December 9, 2025, 20:17:52
- Not to mention a push off before the flop - IlliniSax05 December 9, 2025, 20:18:43
Mobley just begging for a foul. Garbage* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:17:13
That's a fucking travel! Christ* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:16:50
Any game Anderson is involved in is a shit show* - CWR10 December 9, 2025, 20:14:17
- He's the worst of the worst. I think he's kneed himself if the head too many times* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:18:07
- Just ridiculously inconsistent. And every call he makes like it’s a no doubter and people are there - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:16:45
OSU fouls every time down the floor but the officials have decided they just can’t have a one way - GMAW December 9, 2025, 20:14:07
A lot of these are in fact fouls, but the refs directly caused it to happen. - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:13:53
Couple good stops there. Great D by Andrej * - illini December 9, 2025, 20:13:34
Where’s my NBA continuation?* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 20:13:18
*TWEET* * - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:11:39
Come the fuck on. What was that* - John Coctostan December 9, 2025, 20:10:56
WTF. Untouched* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 20:10:30
Nobody touched Thornton* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:10:07
- Reputation call * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:12:53
- Ridiculous * - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 20:10:39
- Yep. Terrible. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:10:32
This is a master class in bad officiating.* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:10:05
No foul there. Ref show continues!* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 20:09:57
- Called after it missed* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 20:10:25
This game is going to take four hours lol* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:09:43
STOP* - snipes824 December 9, 2025, 20:09:37
36 fouls. what a joke.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:08:42
ugly game thanks to this crew * - jdl December 9, 2025, 20:08:22
- They completely suck. * - harb December 9, 2025, 20:08:46
That's a flop. JHC high knees* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:06:16
- Then swallows the whistle as Thornton mugs wagler* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:07:46
- Yep. No different than the fouls on Davis and Hummer a few minutes ago - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:07:33
Stoyackovich has done a great job on Thornton* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 20:05:28
Not a foul. Again* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:02:54
MBK bball has to adopt 10 min qtrs, 5 fouls in the qtr to the bonus. Hell they do it in jr hi here* - illiniranger December 9, 2025, 20:02:31
- And no more 1-1. They need to do it* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:04:29
  - That’s right. 5 fouls is the double bonus. SIJHSAA (SoIll jr hi) does it. Don’t think IHSA does * - illiniranger December 9, 2025, 20:05:33
WTAF are these refs?* - GrandmotherPearlsJam December 9, 2025, 20:01:58
- ooo - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:02:57
The only way this crew could be worse if Scirotto was inserted* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 20:01:54
Ridiculous.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:01:26
These calls are absurd* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 20:01:05
Atrocious crew, as expected* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 20:01:05
stop fouling.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 20:00:53
- They’ve only fouled 3 of the 7 calls* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:01:59
High knees omg. Dude is such a turd* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 20:00:44
Getting fouled in the bonus 93’ from the basket is borderline erotic * - illiniranger December 9, 2025, 19:57:03
- If it was Boswell or Wagler? Absolutely* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 19:58:29
  - I blame you for the first missed FT of the game* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 20:00:52
- If only it had been Tilly’s 5th instead of his 4th.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:58:10
z is playing great tonight.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 19:56:21
- Yes he is—ride him the rest of the way* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:56:55
- Huge. Love the toughness* - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 19:56:54
- Thank goodness.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:56:50
Good D, and then they miss the bunny* - IlliniRunner December 9, 2025, 19:56:00
High knees trying to even the calls apparently* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 19:55:04
- Seriously. That was weak.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:55:47
TOSU hates the calls but they are fouling like Purdue* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 19:54:28
Has petrovic played tonight?* - illini21 December 9, 2025, 19:54:17
- He doesn’t understand defense is played in America* - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 19:58:21
- Too small for the Big Ten * - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:56:28
- Yes turned it over immediately * - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 19:54:43
in the bonus, attack * - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:54:07
we actually got the ball to the big on a mismatch and he managed to score. seems so rare* - Orangeillini December 9, 2025, 19:53:42
This reffing is so inconsistent* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:52:50
You can always tell when Kylan is going to pick one up.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:52:22
Begging to lose this game. Cmon* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 19:51:41
fuck off high knees * - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:51:15
- Turrible* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 19:51:51
Boswell is really out of it* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 19:49:30
catch the ball Kylan, don't have to stay behind the line * - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:49:16
- Was a shit pass too.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:49:39
  - yeah but gotta adjust * - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:50:33
    - Agreed.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:51:08
They have the best player in the gym. We have the next 8* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 19:48:56
Gotta go heavily to Big Z, Tomi is killing us tonight* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:47:12
- Z has been much better too* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:47:59
nothing like a missed layup and give up a coast to coast layup on the other end.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 19:46:32
Tomi missing short, which, you know….* - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 19:46:15
Back to bad Tomi tonight* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:45:56
- Looks like his legs are dead tonight.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:46:24
This officiating is horrendous* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:45:07
Ball movement has to be quicker with the way they collapse* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:44:48
Not even close on any of these 3’s out of half* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:44:07
these offensive possessions to start the half have been dreadful* - OrangeSox December 9, 2025, 19:43:13
Halftime observation: Kylan has seemed very passive on offense. Would like to see him - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:37:17
The Peacock production quality is really something. - illini December 9, 2025, 19:29:19
- Yeah this is brutal. NBC could and should be doing better.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 19:35:51
- Listening to Evan Turner is painful * - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 19:34:47
  - Sounds like he has a bubble in his throat* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 19:47:14
    - Sounds like a muppet* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:57:39
    - Stich * - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:48:15
  - Sounds like he has a bubble in his throat* - HeatMizer December 9, 2025, 19:47:11
  - Yea. Awful* - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 19:46:52
- garbage* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 19:30:15
Meatwad get the honies, G* - chorizo December 9, 2025, 19:28:04
- Lofl* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 19:29:18
- *nods** - Nobster December 9, 2025, 19:28:36
Feels like we took pretty much their best shot. And we’re up 6. - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 19:25:30
- It’s also as good as we’ve looked all year on offense too, so we could regress a bit as well* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:28:15
  - maybe we can (1) go inside more and (2) Take Um-rick out* - memyselfandillini December 9, 2025, 19:30:29
    - Not sure how interested I am in Tomi post ups tonight, he is way off again* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:32:27
- yep.* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 19:26:23
- See what Andrej can do* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:26:05
  - Yep. And live with it when he fouls out with 5 left* - opossum jenkins December 9, 2025, 19:26:41
I’m annoyed and happy at the same time* - snipes824 December 9, 2025, 19:24:19
- Exactly.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:25:34
Really great half despite that last play. Deserve to be up 15+. Need more from Tomi though* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:24:17
We called a TO for that crappy D!?!? - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 19:23:55
Stop the fuking ball. * - harb December 9, 2025, 19:23:11
- Sold out on Thornton and he beat us with the assist. He’s legit this year* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:24:34
Was that late? * - illini December 9, 2025, 19:23:01
- no. it was fine* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 19:23:42
2 7-footers on the floor and they get a layup* - Orangeillini December 9, 2025, 19:22:32
- Yeah. That wasn’t great. Oof.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:23:47
Wagler is something else* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 19:21:44
- pleasant surprise.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 19:22:14
lucky to get that foul called on tOSU, looked clean* - Orangeillini December 9, 2025, 19:21:22
is this the worst floor design for tv? gross* - Nobster December 9, 2025, 19:21:00
That Thornton heater was annoying as hell, but he’s really all they have - snipes824 December 9, 2025, 19:14:45
- so is the the let him get his gameplan and take away the others?* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 19:16:55
  - We’re not letting him get his. Every shot has been contested other than Bos - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:19:40
  - ooo - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:19:39
    - fgs* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:20:21
      - He’s really only had those two somewhat open looks. Just making shots. Impressive* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:21:13
        
        I mean you could argue that given the shooting numbers there needs to be a more - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:24:06
Will be a remarkable performance if we can survive this and have the lead at half. - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:14:21
- Rest of their team is 3/17 * - shua December 9, 2025, 19:15:40
It’s not even bad defense on Thornton - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:13:58
- He’s shooting 60% fg and 53% from three through 8 games. - illini21 December 9, 2025, 19:15:58
Dots - illini21 December 9, 2025, 19:11:46
- Re: Dots - jdl December 9, 2025, 19:14:04
thornton blows by his season average in the first half. not great brad.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 19:11:34
- Just lazy asinine commentary. Be better* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:16:18
- Ari makes critical, blame filled comment. Not surprising, Brad.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:16:00
Damndest thing I’ve seen in a while, he hasn’t even grazed the rim on a shot yet* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:08:01
- And yet they’re still losing - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 19:08:48
  - You were saying?* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:10:53
    - He doesn’t scare me. We will be fine* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 19:11:28
      - We likely will be fine. But got dam already. Glad the heat check missed.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:13:48
Gotta guard him guys. * - illini December 9, 2025, 19:07:10
- Boswell just can’t help off Thornton like that.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:08:09
ben misses 3. drinks.* - Ari Gold December 9, 2025, 19:06:27
- The worst* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:14:23
  - (Ari, not Ben)* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:15:00
- Not sure he got it off in timeeven if he had made it* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 19:08:46
- ari makes dickless comment, drinks* - assassin December 9, 2025, 19:07:24
They better let this level of mugging the ball handler go on both sides.* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:02:07
- All ball there by Mirk* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 19:05:42
  - Yep, but a lazy half-hearted reach like that is just begging to get called a foul* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 19:07:41
Wags the dawg.* - Toonces December 9, 2025, 19:01:50
Don’t know what you do about Thornton. Unstoppable* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:01:33
Ok enough of this Thornton bullshit* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 19:00:58
Wagler fouled too on that take* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 18:56:59
- guy high fived him* - assassin December 9, 2025, 18:59:13
Wagler = one and done * - jdl December 9, 2025, 18:55:47
- He’s been great. But I think we need more data. It’s a long season* - jjlocke923 December 9, 2025, 19:02:45
Looked like Z could grab that. Oh well good start.* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 18:49:57
This is fun and good.* - Toonces December 9, 2025, 18:48:59
The Euros are EN FUEGO!!!!* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 18:48:39
life is good when the 3s are falling* - Orangeillini December 9, 2025, 18:48:29
- ball's movin, guys are cuttin, things are workin* - assassin December 9, 2025, 18:50:09
Absurd from Thornton, keeping this close* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 18:47:43
- My god, make it stop* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 18:52:24
- Gotta be there before the catch. We even tried a semi trap and he found Tilly - Blazer December 9, 2025, 18:49:46
Ok mirk* - snipes824 December 9, 2025, 18:46:18
- waiting for the heat check * - jdl December 9, 2025, 18:47:24
  - Took it and hit it* - snipes824 December 9, 2025, 18:48:57
Krush road trip, might have the whole upper level to themselves? - OB25 December 9, 2025, 18:41:56
So “only 2 high major offers for Wagler” is this year’s Nick Smith stat* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 18:39:44
my word the pushing and grabbing* - assassin December 9, 2025, 18:39:26
- A lot of contact not being called* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 18:40:19
  - It’s Carstensen so it’ll be the opposite next half* - OWWDig December 9, 2025, 18:44:30
    - opposite the final ten minutes of THIS half* - assassin December 9, 2025, 18:58:56
      - Was just gonna say* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 19:02:08
    - Valid* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 18:45:01
  - As long as it is the same both ways. Narrator…* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 18:41:50
  - At least we are used to it from last game* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 18:41:13
Nice to see Andrej get going a bit early.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 18:38:39
this court is too bright * - jdl December 9, 2025, 18:36:00
It appears we are watching from the nosebleeds* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 18:35:16
- Always the case with the TV camera in this arena. It’s bad.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 18:36:18
- Yeah this arena sucks all around.* - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 18:36:01
Wearing blue? Yuck* - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 18:31:41
- Welcome to the thread, Holly* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 18:33:13
- oooo - Blazer December 9, 2025, 18:32:20
Can you start Peacock games late?* - GMAW December 9, 2025, 18:26:18
- I think it joins live but you can rewind * - jdl December 9, 2025, 18:41:24
- Yes, believe so* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 18:31:48
High Knees * - jdl December 9, 2025, 18:10:30
- That's as bad of one two punch as you can draw* - WhitmansFolly December 9, 2025, 18:33:23
- And almost as bad: DJ Carstensen* - Ron McDon December 9, 2025, 18:17:27
  - Double oof* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 18:31:18
- Oh joy. * - osklister December 9, 2025, 18:13:39
Now seeing -3.5* - biclops December 9, 2025, 17:47:56
- Road blues take a point away. - voiceofreason December 9, 2025, 18:22:41
I'm worried about this game.* - baconface December 9, 2025, 17:40:58
- Same. Watching Michigan whomp Villanova isn’t helping either.* - Toonces December 9, 2025, 18:04:23
  - gonna win all the rest of their games by 40 it appears* - assassin December 9, 2025, 18:09:40
Taking another run at it with the throwback blues tonight* - OB25 December 9, 2025, 16:35:23
- Good. They’re awesome and blue is a school color too* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 17:56:48
- They're kinda boring IMO.* - Warrin'_Illini December 9, 2025, 16:43:07
  - You’re kinda boring.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 16:44:21
    - The Orange scripts are insane, I bet blue would be sick as well.* - Warrin'_Illini December 9, 2025, 16:47:41
      - ooooo - Blazer December 9, 2025, 17:59:07
Is Keaton Wagon don't-call-me-Vagler going to be a one-and-done? - Warrin'_Illini December 9, 2025, 14:01:46
- not as tall and slower release than Riley. Won't go as early even tho he's more polished - OrangeSox December 9, 2025, 16:33:12
  - Hope he comes back and has a Johnny Davis type sophomore year* - Blazer December 9, 2025, 17:57:54
  - I saw a mock draft with him going late in the first round. UNDY needs to - Warrin'_Illini December 9, 2025, 16:54:36
- Seriously, how many kids can you say are NOT looking to be one-and-done? - osklister December 9, 2025, 14:58:01
Ugh... I hate games at Ohio State...* - uofi1998 December 9, 2025, 11:48:54
- I also don’t like the quick turnaround* - biclops December 9, 2025, 12:03:33
- Oh how I hate, Ohio State* - Sounder December 9, 2025, 11:58:57
  - WishAgainMichigan. * - osklister December 9, 2025, 12:47:44
    - IF YOU PUT AN ASTERIK AT THE END OF A SUBJECT, THAT MEANS THERE'S NO MESSAGE INSIDE - KingTalkyTiki December 9, 2025, 13:00:40
      - Harsh - jjlocke923 December 9, 2025, 14:54:54
        
        Nice contribution to the game thread. Sad.* - JFG December 10, 2025, 0:14:09
        
        oOo - KingTalkyTiki December 9, 2025, 16:18:59
        
        But true. - Illiniphil December 9, 2025, 15:02:29
        
        Underrated Metallica B-Side* - ATL December 9, 2025, 16:09:47
        
        I mean, all of Metallica's B-sides are underrated. * (nm) - osklister December 9, 2025, 16:20:17
- Their home court advantage is minimal and I think Bruce Thornton sucks - bjl63 December 9, 2025, 11:51:22
  - Normally I would agree, but Thornton's numbers have been unreal this year - Blazer December 9, 2025, 13:12:38
    - Yep. Those are player of the year numbers… so far.* - DocWalk20 December 9, 2025, 16:45:09
  - Yeah... it just always feels so... gross... IDK how to describe it. - uofi1998 December 9, 2025, 11:52:10
    - It is a very sterile atmosphere. Just not a good college hoops arena. - AintHatin December 9, 2025, 11:57:30
      - Kinda all the city schools suffer from that. - osklister December 9, 2025, 12:56:06
Also on NBCSN - jdl December 9, 2025, 8:36:52
- Thank you.* - gullit December 9, 2025, 12:54:51
We'll need to play like we did against TN. BT road wins are not easy. - JFG December 9, 2025, 8:34:47
a thread title that lists the game time and TV station is fantastic. *marks post as helpful* * - Orangeillini December 9, 2025, 7:41:54
- Agreed, great to know I’m getting on the ‘cock tonight * - Jackie December 9, 2025, 8:43:55
  - I lost my 'cock. - EffinIllini December 9, 2025, 16:15:49
  - Well that makes one of us......* - Warrin'_Illini December 9, 2025, 8:47:08
    - Very sorry about yr ‘cock shortage, buddy :( * - Jackie December 9, 2025, 11:46:23
Yeh Peacock.* - gullit December 9, 2025, 7:37:20

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