Meh...you probably can't, personally, do anything about air pollution...
...on any meaningful level. But think back to the 1980s. People still threw garbage out their windows in the car. Dumped motor-oil down the drain, etc. All of those attitudes have changed. The environment is physically cleaner than it was 40 years ago. I mean, you personally, probably have made food decisions (subconsciously or not) that are better for your environment and ecology. We're not individually defeating big industry but small decisions matter at a more local level. They're not insignificant.  Previous Message and I wasn't saying that you can't care about the environment and drive a gas guzzling car. My personal conclusion, honestly, is that there is nothing that I can personally do that is going to move the needle on the environment when there are massive corporations that will continue to pollute. It's that that I no longer care about the environment, I very much still do, it's just that I've given up hope that there's anything that can be done that is going to make a meaningful difference, and relieving myself of that burden helps me sleep a little better at night.  Previous Message ...and still drive an internal combustion vehicle. There's tons of things you can do to contribute to the overall health of your environment. Throwing your hands up and saying "no one cares" strikes me as lazy and defeatist.  Previous Message but pretty much anyone Gen X and beyond doesn't really care about the environment, especially if it means being asked to make any sort of sacrifice. All people really care about is the economy. Everything else is secondary. People will switch to electric cars when it makes economic sense to do so.  Previous Message  Previous Message right now? You can finally switch the entire transition thesis from climate change (not popular) to affordability and not having to rely on a strait controlled by an enemy 6,000 miles away (I would assume pretty popular). Such an easy sell right now. Especially when combined with the data center shit.  Previous Message Clarification: Not his own money
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Political Thread for the week of March 23 - timmer March 23, 2026, 6:46:17
- Trump pushed back Iran bombing deadline day 10 days to April 6. #TACO* - Stu Today, 15:18:06
- Got through security in about 2 min today at ORD. I suspect spring break Saturday AM will be diff* - cpsteine Today, 14:28:39
- At the ATL airport. Saw my first ICE guy. Neck tattoo and the look of a guy who couldn’t hold - ATL Today, 12:01:51
- Iran again tells Trump to get bent* - Stu Today, 9:08:34
- Me watching the news on Trump being briefed by video while the war turns into a quagmire…. - LeatherneckIllini Today, 8:20:58
- Donnie just dominating awards season - Mrap24 Today, 7:11:37
- Totally legit, I'm sure. Michael Flynn sues DOJ and DOJ settles with him for undisclosed amount - UofIL6 Yesterday, 21:02:49
- “I tested the system and the system failed,” says man facing a 6 year sentence after being convicted - doubledown Yesterday, 20:57:13
- People keep complaining about all the tasteless and gaudy things that Trump is doing to the White Ho - doubledown Yesterday, 17:16:40
- 3000 MW of new nuclear power coming to North Alabama* - Stu Yesterday, 17:12:53
- drone post - illiniranger Yesterday, 16:46:42
- "Honey, you didn't mow the lawn... - KingTalkyTiki Yesterday, 14:39:32
- Iran rejects Trump peace plan, demands reparations instead - Stu Yesterday, 13:33:02
- “Close spiritual advisor to Hegseth” wants James Talarico to die and be crucified - VIV Yesterday, 13:28:06
- Someone made a 1.5 billion dollar oil play. - assassin Yesterday, 11:14:10
- This should be a massive scandal (it won’t be) - Sounder Yesterday, 10:48:22
- FYI, if you were on the fence about buying a new router, hurry up. - doubledown Yesterday, 9:20:31
- On its face it seems hyperbolic to call trading on insider information "treason," but - doubledown Yesterday, 9:07:06
- If Iran really wanted to give America a present, they'd ice this goof. * - doubledown Yesterday, 8:32:10
- Did I hear right that a Dem may win the House seat that represents Mar-a-Lago area - timmer March 24, 2026, 19:05:25
- as long and as hard as is necessary - Sounder March 24, 2026, 15:31:19
- 62! Getting close to W territory here. - ATL March 24, 2026, 15:25:11
- Trump hates windpower so much that he is willing to pay them $1 billion to not produce electricity - Stu March 24, 2026, 10:04:34
- Maybe this happens after the war dies down, but how are democrats not screaming about renewables - snipes824 March 24, 2026, 10:13:40
- The irony is that Texas is far and away the leader in renewable energy in the US* - ECEIllinois March 24, 2026, 18:58:01
- there is a shit ton of money to be made by new energy providers - memyselfandillini March 24, 2026, 12:25:41
- It’s not where the votes are* - Stu March 24, 2026, 10:43:41
- Nobody wants to admit it - Sounder March 24, 2026, 10:52:03
- well the current price of gas is tilting the balance towards electrics* - memyselfandillini March 24, 2026, 12:26:55
- The positive side here is the country that matters the most, China, is all in on renewables - DT March 24, 2026, 12:06:59
- You're taking a maximalist position. You can care about the environment... - haighter March 24, 2026, 11:08:04
- I think it's fair to say, given power dynamics in charge, sustainability has lost and it's over. - ijustkrushalot March 24, 2026, 11:50:02
- One more thing - Sounder March 24, 2026, 11:15:34
- To be clear, I wasn't ragging on internal combustion engines - Sounder March 24, 2026, 11:12:33
- Meh...you probably can't, personally, do anything about air pollution... - haighter March 24, 2026, 11:26:29
- I feel like the combination of Trump and the pandemic - Sounder March 24, 2026, 10:36:06
- because they are a) incompetent and b) know that they can win 2026 without taking a single position - John Coctostan March 24, 2026, 10:15:03
- ICE agents doing the hard work - ATL March 24, 2026, 10:00:15
- Mail in voting is mail in cheating-Donald Trump - illini222 March 24, 2026, 8:58:18
- Well, there's a reason Trump doesn't want to make a deal to save TSA. Guess what? It's Project2025 - VIV March 24, 2026, 8:55:17
- Bibi made Trump his bitch and Trump done fucked up. - ATL March 23, 2026, 20:41:54
- Some of the most naked insider trading you’ll ever see - VIV March 23, 2026, 17:54:11
- Sen. Kennedy assigns blame for lack of TSA funding - UofIL6 March 23, 2026, 16:42:07
- So he wants to switch parties again. Okay, why not.* - complainant March 23, 2026, 17:06:55
- I think they paraphrased that..... - KingTalkyTiki March 23, 2026, 17:04:05
- "The Dems have offered to open up everything but ICE. OK let’s accept their offer. Sen Thune - gvibes March 23, 2026, 16:46:02
- what does it say? - VIV March 23, 2026, 16:43:13
- ooo - Kajagoogoo March 23, 2026, 16:45:54
- AI bots are now part of polling samples - snipes824 March 23, 2026, 15:57:54
- We should all point and laugh - Stu March 23, 2026, 13:17:00
- Sam Bankman-Fried's mom may be in even more trouble - ATL March 23, 2026, 12:48:19
- lol* - Poldark March 23, 2026, 13:22:40
- Lol sbf - ATL March 23, 2026, 19:53:23
- I think this sending ICE to airports thing is wildly bad, politically - John Coctostan March 23, 2026, 10:21:31
- the idea that he is a Russian agent becomes more believable by the day* - cpsteine March 23, 2026, 18:22:17
- What the heck, put them in the control tower too. - KingTalkyTiki March 23, 2026, 11:30:08
- It’s a terrible idea. So far the pics just show them standing around. * - MC March 23, 2026, 10:59:29
- At least the ATCs are working and these meatheads aren’t filling in for them.* - SurfTheBoneyard March 23, 2026, 10:43:56
- "ICE was my idea", like the paper clip - Sounder March 23, 2026, 10:35:28
- Don't forget, masked* - Stu March 23, 2026, 10:34:41
- It's giving hare-brained schemes a bad name.* - Warrin'_Illini March 23, 2026, 10:29:47
- Also, don't feel great about him using ICE for whatever he wants* - reggiedunlop March 23, 2026, 10:23:25
- It's unfuckingbelievable - Sounder March 23, 2026, 10:22:29
- Trump says he only gave Joe Kent a job because he lost his wife. - Stu March 23, 2026, 8:56:11
- I legit think trump just made up the talks. Iranians fully reject it, say they’ll continue - John Coctostan March 23, 2026, 7:09:16
- It’s all to manipulate the market; and it works* - Mrap24 March 23, 2026, 10:15:19
- Who is he going to talk to, he says they killed everyone * - Sounder March 23, 2026, 9:53:18
- Possibly but the pause is in regards solely to his threat on Iranian power plants - CanHartlebHireSnider March 23, 2026, 8:14:57
- TACO* - Stu March 23, 2026, 8:17:42
- ooo - ATL March 23, 2026, 8:19:40
- He's just trying to talk oil down. It's just amazing to me how markets react... - Stu March 23, 2026, 8:12:50
- "WITCH (sic) WILL CONTINUE"* - VIV March 23, 2026, 8:08:54
- But yet that was enough to manipulate the market* - Mrap24 March 23, 2026, 7:59:19
- Of course. There is no motivation for him like the stock market - UofIL6 March 23, 2026, 7:34:23
- And Israel is still striking - John Coctostan March 23, 2026, 7:10:28
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