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Man, the Cardinals are terrible.

Posted by illini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 16:43:43

Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

Fire Mozeliak and his staff into the sun. Their off season moves were laughable at the time and

Posted by LovetheChief <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LovetheChief' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 16:45:21, in reply to "Man, the Cardinals are terrible. "

Down right bad now.

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Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

Really rooting for a sub-70 win season

Posted by Blazer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Blazer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 17:13:11, in reply to "Fire Mozeliak and his staff into the sun. Their off season moves were laughable at the time and "

Ownership needs to wake the eff up. A decade-plus of living off the shitty central division where 85 wins can sneak you into the playoffs has to stop.

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Down right bad now.

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Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

Now that there’s no longer 19 games against the division, it doesn’t work.*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 17:44:43, in reply to "Really rooting for a sub-70 win season"

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Ownership needs to wake the eff up. A decade-plus of living off the shitty central division where 85 wins can sneak you into the playoffs has to stop.

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Down right bad now.

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Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

Coleman Hawkins, er, Ty MF Rodgers Stan Account

I don't think it's unreasonable to want change

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 17:55:35, in reply to "Now that there’s no longer 19 games against the division, it doesn’t work.*"

But 85 wins to sneak into the playoff is significantly more likely in today's game than any other time.

4 teams made the playoffs last year with win totals in the 80s including 2 with 84 wins.

The last time any team has won the NL Central with 85 wins was the Cubs 17 years ago.

The Cardinals have won the NL Central 5 times over the last decade and they've averaged 94 wins in those seasons.

Fair enough, I was intentionally using hypoerbole

Posted by Blazer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Blazer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 20:36:30, in reply to "I don't think it's unreasonable to want change"

But other than the 2015 100 win season (when they lost 3-1 in the DS to the Cubs), in the last 10 years they won the division with 90, 91, and 93 wins and had 86, 83, 88, and 71 wins in the other years (excepting the COVID season).

Meanwhile the NL West winner has averaged 99 wins in that time, and the NL East 95 wins.

So yes, 85 wins was hyperbole, but I still think it's fair to say management has coasted on the NL Central being a much less challenging division.

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The non-19 game change happened last year.

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 18:29:00, in reply to "I don't think it's unreasonable to want change"

The Cards feasted on a bad division prior to that.

Coleman Hawkins, er, Ty MF Rodgers Stan Account

I refuse to let facts get in the way of my hate of mozeliak.*

Posted by LovetheChief <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LovetheChief' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 18:06:27, in reply to "I don't think it's unreasonable to want change"

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What he said*

Posted by Blazer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Blazer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 20:37:03, in reply to "I refuse to let facts get in the way of my hate of mozeliak.*"

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LND*

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 17:44:12, in reply to "Really rooting for a sub-70 win season"

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Ownership needs to wake the eff up. A decade-plus of living off the shitty central division where 85 wins can sneak you into the playoffs has to stop.

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Down right bad now.

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Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

Coleman Hawkins, er, Ty MF Rodgers Stan Account

This was all so predictable *

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 16:59:20, in reply to "Fire Mozeliak and his staff into the sun. Their off season moves were laughable at the time and "

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Down right bad now.

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Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

Coleman Hawkins, er, Ty MF Rodgers Stan Account

100% *

Posted by LovetheChief <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=LovetheChief' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 14, 2024, 17:01:04, in reply to "This was all so predictable *"

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Down right bad now.

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Ivan Herrera, Yadi you are not. My god.

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