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Car repair issue - What does the Deuce think?

Posted by NastyBoyd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=NastyBoyd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 13:34:51

Cr continues to have issues and check engine light comes on Tuesday night

Wednesday the salesperson contacts her to bring the car in next morning, which she does.

Today, she is informed by the dealership that it is an internal PCM problem, which they won't repair since it is not a Honda. They tell her she needs to have the car towed to a Buick dealership or a mechanic and she is responsible for the repair.

I believe they should pay for the tow and the repair du e to the warranty reward and also because it is within 15 days of purchase and subject to the implied warranty of merchantability in Illinois

Am i in the wrong here?

update

Posted by NastyBoyd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=NastyBoyd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 15:29:20, in reply to "Car repair issue - What does the Deuce think?"

the Honda dealership agreed to pay for the tow and diagnostic at a Buick Dealership

And the repair itself?*

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 20, 2024, 4:15:15, in reply to "update"

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the Honda dealership agreed to pay for the tow and diagnostic at a Buick Dealership

(for rent)

Do you have a handheld diagnostic?

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 14:12:53, in reply to "Car repair issue - What does the Deuce think?"

If it were me, I’d run that first to get the errors myself, try to reset the errors and PCM then likely just order a new PCM programmed to her vin and install it.

It’s probably a few clips and connections to switch.

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Daughter buys used car from a Honda dealership in town (under 150k miles, Buick Enclave) last Saturday. At the time of the purchase they provide her information about a rewards program they are offering her for free, which includes a 3 month powertrain warranty

Next day she has issues with the pedals sticking. She contacts the salesperson that day and follows up again on Monday Cr continues to have issues and check engine light comes on Tuesday night

Wednesday the salesperson contacts her to bring the car in next morning, which she does.

Today, she is informed by the dealership that it is an internal PCM problem, which they won't repair since it is not a Honda. They tell her she needs to have the car towed to a Buick dealership or a mechanic and she is responsible for the repair.

I believe they should pay for the tow and the repair du e to the warranty reward and also because it is within 15 days of purchase and subject to the implied warranty of merchantability in Illinois

Am i in the wrong here?

beyond my capabilities to repair

Posted by NastyBoyd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=NastyBoyd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 15:27:45, in reply to "Do you have a handheld diagnostic?"

she got a diagnostic from Advanced Auto which registered P0606 and P0335

beyond my capabilities to repair

Posted by NastyBoyd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=NastyBoyd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 15:27:44, in reply to "Do you have a handheld diagnostic?"

she got a diagnostic from Advanced Auto which registered P0606 and P0335

I agree with you.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 13:42:39, in reply to "Car repair issue - What does the Deuce think?"

And now I want to know the name of the dealership and the county.

what does the fine print say for the warranty - my Honda has a long, specific list*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 13:46:05, in reply to "I agree with you."

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And now I want to know the name of the dealership and the county.

Doesn't matter. The statute specifically prohibits sellers from lowering the threshold.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 14:41:14, in reply to "what does the fine print say for the warranty - my Honda has a long, specific list*"

(c) Except as otherwise provided in this Section 2L, any sale of a used motor vehicle as described in subsection (a) may not exclude, modify, or disclaim the implied warranty of merchantability created under this Section 2L or limit the remedies for a breach of the warranty hereunder before midnight of the 15th calendar day after delivery of a used motor vehicle or until a used motor vehicle is driven 500 miles after delivery, whichever is earlier.

Link: Findlaw link

so i think the underlying question is whether a computer module for the powertrain

Posted by NastyBoyd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=NastyBoyd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 15:57:19, in reply to "Doesn't matter. The statute specifically prohibits sellers from lowering the threshold."

s part of the powertain system contemplated by the statute.

the statue does not specially include poweetrain computer module

yes, my question was the exact definition of the covered powertrain

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 16:04:10, in reply to "so i think the underlying question is whether a computer module for the powertrain "

Not whether they were trying to get out of the agreement someone, which might actually be what's going on.

I can look up exactly what is part of the powertrain (and for that matter, some other composite ideas - like what exactly is the engine). In my case the control module is part of the powertrain.

Just like any other insurance policy, really. Lists of what's in and what's out.

Google's autofill demonstrates that many people have asked this question.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 20, 2024, 2:05:03, in reply to "yes, my question was the exact definition of the covered powertrain"

Its search results indicate that the answer is absolutely yes. I don't think the Illinois legislature was looking to squeak out of this one.

He should find a lawyer to look it over for him. *

Posted by Tuscy <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tuscy' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 13:56:37, in reply to "what does the fine print say for the warranty - my Honda has a long, specific list*"

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And now I want to know the name of the dealership and the county.

"I wouldn't mind the DP here." - jumpingdan

good point*

Posted by NastyBoyd <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=NastyBoyd' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 19, 2024, 15:29:41, in reply to "He should find a lawyer to look it over for him. *"

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And now I want to know the name of the dealership and the county.

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