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jon stewart on biden

Posted by suburbanmyth <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=suburbanmyth' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:25:29

https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/he-just-shouldnt-be-president-jon-stewart-torches-biden-at-comedy-show/

i saw bill burr at the hollywood bowl on friday night and he was, as expected, awesome. made some "biden is too old" jokes as well.

and he left no room for doubt on where he stands on the israel palestine issue. the guy is the best going right now.

"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

Indiana had its primary yesterday, Haley pulled almost 22% of the vote.

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:00:20, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

Of course, they also gave Mike Braun the nomination for governor, the guy who said states should be free to outlaw interracial marriage.

How did Obama win that state once ?*

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 15:38:53, in reply to "Indiana had its primary yesterday, Haley pulled almost 22% of the vote. "

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Of course, they also gave Mike Braun the nomination for governor, the guy who said states should be free to outlaw interracial marriage.

Stupidity has a knack of getting its way
Albert Camus
Courage is a muscle. You exercise courage by consistently doing things that scare you.
History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes.

Because he's that good of a politician*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 18:20:38, in reply to "How did Obama win that state once ?*"

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Of course, they also gave Mike Braun the nomination for governor, the guy who said states should be free to outlaw interracial marriage.

She won't win, but I actually am excited for our Dem Governor canididate.

Posted by tvillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=tvillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:47:51, in reply to "Indiana had its primary yesterday, Haley pulled almost 22% of the vote. "

She's fantastic. She was the hand picked by the GOP to be the state superintendent of schools, and she got about a year or two in and said "fuck this... you guys are all nuts."

She quit, flipped parties, and started her campaign for Governor.

ha*

Posted by Tooldresser <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Tooldresser' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:05:35, in reply to "She won't win, but I actually am excited for our Dem Governor canididate."

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You disagree?

Posted by tvillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=tvillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:07:29, in reply to "ha*"

I mean there is no chance*

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I don't think she'll get trounced. But she won't win.

Posted by tvillini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=tvillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:52:36, in reply to "I mean there is no chance*"

There is an unfortunate number of great moderate Democratic candidates

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:48:55, in reply to "She won't win, but I actually am excited for our Dem Governor canididate."

in states where they can never win.

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You wonder how many of those, in November, go back and vote Trump

Posted by UofIL6 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=UofIL6' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:42:05, in reply to "Indiana had its primary yesterday, Haley pulled almost 22% of the vote. "

Of course, in Indiana, at least for the Presidential race, it likely doesnt matter

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Of course, they also gave Mike Braun the nomination for governor, the guy who said states should be free to outlaw interracial marriage.

Hoosiers gonna Hoosier.

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:13:56, in reply to "Indiana had its primary yesterday, Haley pulled almost 22% of the vote. "

Highly recommend:

https://www.amazon.com/Fever-Heartland-Klans-America-Stopped-ebook/dp/B0B5SP91VY

On the one hand, I agree Biden has, at best, lost multiple steps cognitively due to age

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:48:56, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

But on the other hand, I think his administration has been more effective and accomplished more than Obama did, despite Obama being much younger and very sharp. And despite Obama having a veto proof majority at the beginning of his term.

So either Biden is a lot sharper and more effective behind closed doors than he comes across in public (possible), his team is a lot better (very possible), or it’s just not that important for the president to be really sharp/quick, if he has good instincts and a good team (extremely likely.)

So it’s good fodder for comedians, but where the rubber meets the road, it hasn’t seemed to matter much, at least do far. The one issue I think he’s really mishandled, the Israeli invasion of Gaza, I think is more about him being a long time beltway insider, rather than anything to do with age. Maybe his age led him to miscalculate politically, about the relative strength of pro-Israel sentiment in the public and among Democrats. Although it’s hard to know for sure on that—he’d have faced a ton of heat if he’d held Israel’s feet to the fire in any significant way, just from a different direction.

On a related note, if Republicans had supported the proposed border security bill, Biden would also have made major progress on two of Trump’s signature issues, border security and trade/industrial policy, far far more than Trump accomplished on either during his term.

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100%. And he accomplished a lot of this legislation w/ razor-thin majorities in the Senate and House

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 19:18:41, in reply to "On the one hand, I agree Biden has, at best, lost multiple steps cognitively due to age"

If Joe Manchin and Kristin Sinema hadn't been the most powerful votes in the Senate, he could have accomplished more.

I'd agree he's probably lost a step or two. But the way the press has covered this issue has been well out of proportion with whatever losses in mental acuity he's actually suffered.

And Trump is out there spouting out more and more unintelligible word-salads, and it just seems to dissappear into the ether.

Couldn’t agree more. His accomplishments are certainly minimized by just about everyone

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:44:51, in reply to "On the one hand, I agree Biden has, at best, lost multiple steps cognitively due to age"

Also, a bureaucracy of hundreds of thousands is carried out by many people, not just the president. I got called out for saying this before, but while you fill in the oval next to a single name, you’re voting for an entire administration. Cabinet members, legislative liaisons, heads of departments, inner circle advisors, etc. Voting for Joe Biden, even if you think he’s actually weekend at Bernie’s, is voting for competence throughout the government and a set of core principles that go far beyond him. That’s what you got in term 1, and that’s what you’d get in term 2 even if he was in a coma. And the same is true, just the opposite politically, of Trump.

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and for all that, a fuck ton of voters think Trump did more for infrastructure than Biden has

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:54:47, in reply to "On the one hand, I agree Biden has, at best, lost multiple steps cognitively due to age"

truly nothing matters but teams. people have broadly lost the ability to rationally think through things

https://x.com/Brendan_Duke/status/1788165415354368388

I think Dems biggest flaw is they are absolute trash at messaging.

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:58:12, in reply to "and for all that, a fuck ton of voters think Trump did more for infrastructure than Biden has"

So much of politics is vibes right now and the Dems aren’t as active as they should be crowing about accomplishments. It’s a whisper campaign vs using a megaphone.

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truly nothing matters but teams. people have broadly lost the ability to rationally think through things

https://x.com/Brendan_Duke/status/1788165415354368388

They don't have an active propaganda machine spreading constant misinformation and lies

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:07:10, in reply to "I think Dems biggest flaw is they are absolute trash at messaging."

like the Republicans do.

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So much of politics is vibes right now and the Dems aren’t as active as they should be crowing about accomplishments. It’s a whisper campaign vs using a megaphone.

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truly nothing matters but teams. people have broadly lost the ability to rationally think through things

https://x.com/Brendan_Duke/status/1788165415354368388

What? You don't think that the DNC has a well oil-ed PR / Propoganda machine?

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:18:46, in reply to "They don't have an active propaganda machine spreading constant misinformation and lies"

Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

There is a huge difference between MSNBC and Fox News

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:44:27, in reply to "What? You don't think that the DNC has a well oil-ed PR / Propoganda machine?"

and how the DNC and RNC operate in general. If you don't see the difference (and I suspect that you do not) then I can't help you. It seems fairly obvious to me.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

A notable difference, MSNBC hasn't paid out 3/4 of a billion dollars for broadcasting lies. *

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:52:41, in reply to "There is a huge difference between MSNBC and Fox News"

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and how the DNC and RNC operate in general. If you don't see the difference (and I suspect that you do not) then I can't help you. It seems fairly obvious to me.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

Yeah, one has a political point of view and the other is straight up lies and deception

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:56:59, in reply to "A notable difference, MSNBC hasn't paid out 3/4 of a billion dollars for broadcasting lies. *"

You get centrist bonafides for calling them the same, but they are not.

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and how the DNC and RNC operate in general. If you don't see the difference (and I suspect that you do not) then I can't help you. It seems fairly obvious to me.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

Exactly*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:01:51, in reply to "Yeah, one has a political point of view and the other is straight up lies and deception"

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You get centrist bonafides for calling them the same, but they are not.

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and how the DNC and RNC operate in general. If you don't see the difference (and I suspect that you do not) then I can't help you. It seems fairly obvious to me.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

I mean...all I need to do is look at the House to see an enormous difference between...

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:47:22, in reply to "There is a huge difference between MSNBC and Fox News"

...how the DNC and the GOP operates...functionally.

When it comes to their aligned media mouthpieces I think there's some difference, but a majority of the "glaring difference" type commentary arises from political bias.

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and how the DNC and RNC operate in general. If you don't see the difference (and I suspect that you do not) then I can't help you. It seems fairly obvious to me.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

No, I do not, thus my comment on how they suck at messaging.*

Posted by Carl Spackler <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Carl+Spackler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:39:16, in reply to "What? You don't think that the DNC has a well oil-ed PR / Propoganda machine?"

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

both sides!*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:25:26, in reply to "What? You don't think that the DNC has a well oil-ed PR / Propoganda machine?"

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

Not as much a "both-sides" as a reaction to Sounders one sided..."the DNC doesn't have an active...

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:26:57, in reply to "both sides!*"

...propoganda machine".

That seems naive and he seems extremely worked up about this.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

you are ignoring the "misinformation and lies" piece of Sounder's statement.*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:18:54, in reply to "Not as much a "both-sides" as a reaction to Sounders one sided..."the DNC doesn't have an active..."

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...propoganda machine".

That seems naive and he seems extremely worked up about this.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

Meh. One side regularly facilitates lies and fellates one man.*

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:37:59, in reply to "Not as much a "both-sides" as a reaction to Sounders one sided..."the DNC doesn't have an active..."

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...propoganda machine".

That seems naive and he seems extremely worked up about this.

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Or you think that the GOP is the only one to trade in lies, insults, half-truths and agitprop?

Elections are decided by our dumbest and least informed, least educated voters*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:55:57, in reply to "and for all that, a fuck ton of voters think Trump did more for infrastructure than Biden has"

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truly nothing matters but teams. people have broadly lost the ability to rationally think through things

https://x.com/Brendan_Duke/status/1788165415354368388

A few thoughts

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:53:09, in reply to "On the one hand, I agree Biden has, at best, lost multiple steps cognitively due to age"

Regarding Obama, I think he expelled a tremendous amount of political capital to get the ACA over the line, and I think history will prove that to be a good decision. I also think he made a huge miscalculation with regards to the ability to work with the opposition to make bipartisan legislation. With that being said, I think that Biden learned a lot from the mistakes of Obama which has allowed him to be more effective. I also think that a lot of Biden's legislation has been driven by the need of the crisis like nature of the times we live in.

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But on the other hand, I think his administration has been more effective and accomplished more than Obama did, despite Obama being much younger and very sharp. And this despite Obama having a veto proof majority at the beginning of his term.

So either Biden is a lot sharper and more effective behind closed doors than he comes across in public (possible), his team is a lot better (very possible), or it’s just not that important for the president to be really sharp/quick, if he has good instincts and a good team (extremely likely.)

So it’s good fodder for comedians, but where the rubber meets the road, it hasn’t seemed to matter much, at least do far. The one issue I think he’s really mishandled, the Israeli invasion of Gaza, I think is more about him being a long time beltway insider, rather than anything to do with age. Maybe his age led him to miscalculate politically, about the relative strength of pro-Israel sentiment in the public and among Democrats. Although it’s hard to know for sure on that—he’d have faced a ton of heat if he’d held Israel’s feet to the fire in any significant way, just from a different direction.

On a related note, if Republicans had supported the proposed border security bill, Biden would also have made major progress on two of Trump’s signature issues, border security and trade/industrial policy, far far more than Trump accomplished on either during his term.

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100%*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:50:11, in reply to "On the one hand, I agree Biden has, at best, lost multiple steps cognitively due to age"

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If Stewart ran for office, I'd vote for him. Can't be worse than what we got.*

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:01:32, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

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What, in particular, do you dislike?*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:03:10, in reply to "If Stewart ran for office, I'd vote for him. Can't be worse than what we got.*"

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About Trump or Biden or both? I don't think I have enough time for what I dislike about Trump*

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:19:53, in reply to "What, in particular, do you dislike?*"

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The Biden administration. Why can't Jon Stewart be worse than the Biden administration?*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:07:59, in reply to "About Trump or Biden or both? I don't think I have enough time for what I dislike about Trump*"

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A few things that bother me about this administration (aware that a lot can be blamed on both sides)

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:49:22, in reply to "The Biden administration. Why can't Jon Stewart be worse than the Biden administration?*"

Rapid rise in cost of living and nothing done to stem this.

Student loan forgiveness. I was hoping for a reduction in interest rates or a freeze, but not a complete forgiveness.

Want a more forceful response to the conflict/war in Gaza.

Need more pressure on Iran to stop nuclear weapons production. Biden wanted a return to a failed policy that wouldn't work.

More of a push in Ukraine support (recent proposals are better and heading the right way)

Afghan withdrawal should've started immediately and not waited 8 months into his presidency. Became a complete debacle

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These are your biggest beefs? Are you gonna vote for trump? *

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 9, 2024, 8:36:04, in reply to "A few things that bother me about this administration (aware that a lot can be blamed on both sides)"

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You realize that you said "can't be worse" and followed it to with "a few things that bother me"

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 14:38:50, in reply to "A few things that bother me about this administration (aware that a lot can be blamed on both sides)"

Those two don't seem equal

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Who got their student loans forgiven? Definitely not me.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on May 8, 2024, 13:50:44, in reply to "A few things that bother me about this administration (aware that a lot can be blamed on both sides)"

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Let me cook.

Depends on need or where you may work.

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 14:09:53, in reply to "Who got their student loans forgiven? Definitely not me.*"

I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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Literal LOL to "not for profit" hospital*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 14:44:02, in reply to "Depends on need or where you may work."

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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Totally agree. It was about 30 years ago. Now just another business*

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 15:02:26, in reply to "Literal LOL to "not for profit" hospital*"

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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So your issue is that you had to pay yours off, but they didn't?*

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 14:36:19, in reply to "Depends on need or where you may work."

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Nope. Good for them they were able to do it. It's not their fault they had that advantage. *

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 15:17:23, in reply to "So your issue is that you had to pay yours off, but they didn't?*"

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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So what's your issue with it then?*

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 15:26:50, in reply to "Nope. Good for them they were able to do it. It's not their fault they had that advantage. *"

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

My issue is, it's a loan and should be paid back, without being subsidized by the government

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 15:29:55, in reply to "So what's your issue with it then?*"

which already is burdened with excess debt
I think money could have been spent elsewhere to stimulate the economy or for development of national infrastructure

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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But how much of their loans did they actually pay back?

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 17:31:02, in reply to "My issue is, it's a loan and should be paid back, without being subsidized by the government"

Did they take out $50k, pay back $5k, and have the rest forgiven?

Or did they take out $50k, pay back $70k, but because of their interest rate they still have $40k principal left and that was forgiven?

If it’s more like the latter I’m ok with it. They paid back the loan plus a decent amount more. If it’s more like the former I would have preferred an interest rate change that would have allowed them to pay it back in a reasonable amount of time

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

The economy is still overstimulated and maybe buy less fighter jets instead. *

Posted by assassin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=assassin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 17:14:00, in reply to "My issue is, it's a loan and should be paid back, without being subsidized by the government"

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which already is burdened with excess debt
I think money could have been spent elsewhere to stimulate the economy or for development of national infrastructure

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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Brandon Schrock of Laredo, Texas, told the federal government that his employer was “poop,” and his occupation was “pooper.”

I design airports. I think that's worth at least half a percentage point IMO.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on May 8, 2024, 14:11:51, in reply to "Depends on need or where you may work."

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I know most who work for my corporation (not for profit hospital) got there's forgiven. This was after I already paid mine completely off.

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Let me cook.

Fair Q. Wonder if he’ll answer*

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:39:09, in reply to "The Biden administration. Why can't Jon Stewart be worse than the Biden administration?*"

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I can’t disagree with anything Stewart was quoted as saying

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:39:58, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

if you believe that 1) Biden is the only choice and 2) Trump is dangerous

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 17:04:49, in reply to "I can’t disagree with anything Stewart was quoted as saying "

then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

why does there have to be a benefit to biden?*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:34:30, in reply to "if you believe that 1) Biden is the only choice and 2) Trump is dangerous"

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

He’s trying to reach undecideds who also don’t like the option of Biden*

Posted by Deuce Poster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Deuce+Poster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 22:31:07, in reply to "if you believe that 1) Biden is the only choice and 2) Trump is dangerous"

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

And get them to do what?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 8:52:52, in reply to "He’s trying to reach undecideds who also don’t like the option of Biden*"

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

Get them to vote for him anyway because even though he sucks, he’s not a catastrophe. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 8:57:38, in reply to "And get them to do what?*"

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

If you think that is what he is trying to do

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:41:45, in reply to "Get them to vote for him anyway because even though he sucks, he’s not a catastrophe. *"

He is terrible at it.

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

He's a member of the press, not a cheerleader for the Democratic party*

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:40:45, in reply to "If you think that is what he is trying to do"

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He is terrible at it.

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

Lots of puns, no real answers

bingo*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:48:12, in reply to "He's a member of the press, not a cheerleader for the Democratic party*"

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He is terrible at it.

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

1) he's a comedian, not a journalist

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:44:49, in reply to "He's a member of the press, not a cheerleader for the Democratic party*"

2) I'm not asking him to shill for Biden, just have enough self awareness to STFU and not make it worse.

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He is terrible at it.

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

as a comedian, it's literally his job to make people laugh. biden is an easy target.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:50:27, in reply to "1) he's a comedian, not a journalist"

it's not his job to convince people otherwise. biden is 81, FFS.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

There is a lot at stake here, and if Stewart doesn't realize the power he wields

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:55:00, in reply to "as a comedian, it's literally his job to make people laugh. biden is an easy target. "

he is full of arrogance and hubris.

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it's not his job to convince people otherwise. biden is 81, FFS.

don't like the ridicule? maybe the DNC should have proposed a less ridiculous candidate*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:56:22, in reply to "There is a lot at stake here, and if Stewart doesn't realize the power he wields"

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

On this we agree, but here we are

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:58:23, in reply to "don't like the ridicule? maybe the DNC should have proposed a less ridiculous candidate*"

and the stakes are very high.

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"The stakes of this election don't make Donald Trump's opponent less subject to scrutiny

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:05:53, in reply to "On this we agree, but here we are"

it actually makes him more subject to scrutiny."

and...

"What's crazy is thinking that we're the ones as voters who must silence concerns and criticisms...it is the candidate's job to assuage concerns, not the voter's job not to mention them."

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I couldn't disagree with that statement more

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:10:16, in reply to ""The stakes of this election don't make Donald Trump's opponent less subject to scrutiny"

again, it's a binary choice. Was it an enormous miscalculation to let Biden run again unopposed? Absolutely. Do we now need to do everything we can to make sure Biden wins? Yes, yes, we do.

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he makes fun of trump just as much, if not more, than he does Biden

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:19:52, in reply to "I couldn't disagree with that statement more"

and very few people are going to be swayed by "Joe Biden is old!" jokes from Jon Stewart to vote for trump. if you're voting for him you've already drunk the kool-aid and have decided to look past all of the other shit surrounding him. Joe Biden's age isn't the deciding factor, especially since Trump isn't much younger.

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

if you want a throne-sniffer, go to MSNBC. they have plenty.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:16:48, in reply to "I couldn't disagree with that statement more"

i want stewart to remain properly critical when criticism is warranted. and it definitely is in this case. i believe he's stated elsewhere that despite the misgivings, he's still voting for biden for the reasons that are obvious to anyone. i'm sure over the next few months, he'll discuss that plenty.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I'm not worried about who Jon Stewart is going to vote for

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:18:23, in reply to "if you want a throne-sniffer, go to MSNBC. they have plenty. "

I'm worried about how many apathetic voters he convinces to not show up at all.

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again, not his job.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:23:44, in reply to "I'm not worried about who Jon Stewart is going to vote for"

but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

at this stage, it's everyone's job*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:34:13, in reply to "again, not his job."

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but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

no. it's biden's job. *

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:38:13, in reply to "at this stage, it's everyone's job*"

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but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Facts don't matter, and your opposition has a propaganda machine at their full disposal

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:55:05, in reply to "no. it's biden's job. *"

it's everyone job to combat that.

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but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

uhhh

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:19:18, in reply to "Facts don't matter, and your opposition has a propaganda machine at their full disposal"

democrats also have a propaganda machine at their disposal.

and facts ALWAYS matter.

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it's everyone job to combat that.

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but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

fact's haven't mattered for quite some time*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:45:28, in reply to "uhhh"

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democrats also have a propaganda machine at their disposal. and facts ALWAYS matter.

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it's everyone job to combat that.

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but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

then i can see why you want to hang yourself in the garage*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 13:14:27, in reply to "fact's haven't mattered for quite some time*"

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democrats also have a propaganda machine at their disposal. and facts ALWAYS matter.

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it's everyone job to combat that.

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but if you don't think the average daily show viewer will be encouraged by the hosts and writers to vote biden over the next 6 months... LOL.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

You’re right, he’s a comedian. It’s not his job to “STFU and not make it worse.”

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:50:05, in reply to "1) he's a comedian, not a journalist"

His job is to entertain people for money.

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2) I'm not asking him to shill for Biden, just have enough self awareness to STFU and not make it worse.

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He is terrible at it.

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

exactly. *

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:51:10, in reply to "You’re right, he’s a comedian. It’s not his job to “STFU and not make it worse.”"

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His job is to entertain people for money.

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2) I'm not asking him to shill for Biden, just have enough self awareness to STFU and not make it worse.

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He is terrible at it.

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then I just don't see what benefit he sees from continuing to double down on criticism of Biden's age. It feels really out of touch that he doesn't understand the level of influence he has.

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But I can also say with utter confidence that Biden is the only reasonable choice in November

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I think it is more responsible to say what some have said: “Biden is an imperfect choice.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 17:06:16, in reply to "if you believe that 1) Biden is the only choice and 2) Trump is dangerous"

But he’s the only rational choice.”

"For the regulated community, a FONSI represents happy days."

Yet no doubt you have heard people say the same thing about Trump

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:38:05, in reply to "I think it is more responsible to say what some have said: “Biden is an imperfect choice. "

I'm not giving you a hard time, just commenting. "Trump is an imperfect choice, but he is the only rational choice."

That's what happens with many who are willing to waive his huge personal flaws, for example, because they support him on this issue or that. Agree?

forget the personal stuff. just look at policy. he clearly - by his own admission and those of the

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:45:08, in reply to "Yet no doubt you have heard people say the same thing about Trump"

people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

some people see it differently - I won't vote for Trump, but disagree with your statement*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:47:00, in reply to "forget the personal stuff. just look at policy. he clearly - by his own admission and those of the "

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

What do you disagree with?

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:25:15, in reply to "some people see it differently - I won't vote for Trump, but disagree with your statement*"

He's been completely open about establishing an authoritarian regime. His near complete ignorance of US history, foreign policy, domestic policy, and most other subjects is well documented. As is his fundamental dishonesty and limitless greed, and contempt for the law.

*unsurprising crickets**

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you think that a vastly more authoritarian executive is an OK thing?*

Posted by John Coctostan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=John+Coctostan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:20:30, in reply to "some people see it differently - I won't vote for Trump, but disagree with your statement*"

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

potomac doesn't, but he's ok with the ones that do.*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:28:23, in reply to "you think that a vastly more authoritarian executive is an OK thing?*"

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

no, but I have talked with, listened to, and read enough Trump supporters to follow the reasoning*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:44:12, in reply to "potomac doesn't, but he's ok with the ones that do.*"

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

Can you explain the reasoning? *

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:59:38, in reply to "no, but I have talked with, listened to, and read enough Trump supporters to follow the reasoning*"

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

I suggest asking some yourself

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:36:24, in reply to "Can you explain the reasoning? *"

The ones who say they are GOP and thus of course they will vote for Trump as part of the tribe are no more interesting than the people who automatically vote Dem, no questions asked.

The ones who go through some decision process of multiple steps CAN be interesting, whether they come down on the Biden side, the Trump side, or neither.

Just like it CAN be interesting to see what the Post, the NYT, and the WSJ complain about for Biden and Trump.

I’m asking you for your insight. You’ the one who said you understood the reasoning *

Posted by IlliniRunner <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniRunner' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 12:50:48, in reply to "I suggest asking some yourself"

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And I suggest asking yourself

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:43:12, in reply to "I suggest asking some yourself"

if the number of mental hoops required to jump through for (insert generic liberal) to vote for biden are remotely similar to (insert generic non-MAGA conservative) to vote for trump.

I'll have a follow up for you either way.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

"fck the libs. as long as it benefits my side, i don't give a shit."*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:08:00, in reply to "Can you explain the reasoning? *"

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I wouldn't call it "reasoning".

Posted by WhitmansFolly <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=WhitmansFolly' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:51:35, in reply to "no, but I have talked with, listened to, and read enough Trump supporters to follow the reasoning*"

But yes, some have deluded themselves into it. Mostly because they are conspiracy theorists who think the Dems are a cabal, or because they have zero idea how economics work.

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

Or they're just angry and bitter*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:55:50, in reply to "I wouldn't call it "reasoning". "

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But yes, some have deluded themselves into it. Mostly because they are conspiracy theorists who think the Dems are a cabal, or because they have zero idea how economics work.

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

and you're conservative,

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:47:48, in reply to "no, but I have talked with, listened to, and read enough Trump supporters to follow the reasoning*"

so even if he's not your particular brand of vodka you're not exactly opposed.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

*ding ding ding**

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so even if he's not your particular brand of vodka you're not exactly opposed.

you are welcome to stop putting words in my mouth

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:53:06, in reply to "and you're conservative, "

I hope for a divided government because the POTUS in 2025 will be bad at the job and need some resistance. We will survive either one, and I hope we have a strong set of candidates in 2028 to pick up the pieces.

"We will survive" = even if the guy that has openly celebrated authoritarian governments...

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:12:39, in reply to "you are welcome to stop putting words in my mouth"

....has sown mistrust in our electoral system, whose ego wouldn't allow him to even show up to the inauguration of his successor for the good of the country, and openly said he'll be a dictator on day one wins, my white male Boomer ass will benefit.

i can only go by your posting history.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:58:47, in reply to "you are welcome to stop putting words in my mouth"

And your need to "both sides" something that's only got a shadow of comparability.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

are you pretending not to be a conservative now?

Posted by suburbanmyth <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=suburbanmyth' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:57:36, in reply to "you are welcome to stop putting words in my mouth"

so you're on the other board just for the racist comments and vile name calling?

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"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

Hey! Don't be rude to him!

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:09:15, in reply to "are you pretending not to be a conservative now?"

...but the Boomer is more than ok with open racism, misogyny,and worse as long as it's aimed at others.

Just like his shit politics...just as long as he isn't directly impacted, it's all good with him.

yeah. for some people a more authoritarian regime is the ideal and not remotely disqualifying*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:48:43, in reply to "some people see it differently - I won't vote for Trump, but disagree with your statement*"

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

duplicate*

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people around him - wants to move America towards a more authoritarian regime, similar to his pall Orban in Hungary.

That is what is truly irrational and disqualifying

one is old and pudding-brained.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:45:05, in reply to "Yet no doubt you have heard people say the same thing about Trump"

the other is old and pudding-brained and wants to be an autocrat, have the power to do literally any crime without consequence, has been found liable for sexually abusing a woman, and will likely be a multiple time felon by this time next year- including for trying to start an insurrection. not even mentioning the personality, the lack of morals, the lack of intellect, the constant lying.

you see how they're not really comparable, right?

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

They really don't.

Posted by WhitmansFolly <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=WhitmansFolly' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:54:00, in reply to "one is old and pudding-brained. "

A big part of which is because they get their news from sources broadcasting from an alternate reality.

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yet there are millions of people who don't see it that way

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:49:22, in reply to "one is old and pudding-brained. "

Almost 1M people voted for Trump even in blue Maryland in 2020. You can continue to argue that they are all irrational and it won't matter.

i don't get what your point is. i'm not arguing that he doesn't have supporters.

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:55:24, in reply to "yet there are millions of people who don't see it that way"

he absolutely does and they'll be the first ones to let you know.

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Almost 1M people voted for Trump even in blue Maryland in 2020. You can continue to argue that they are all irrational and it won't matter.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

millions of people didn't think blacks were people*

Posted by suburbanmyth <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=suburbanmyth' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:52:25, in reply to "yet there are millions of people who don't see it that way"

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Almost 1M people voted for Trump even in blue Maryland in 2020. You can continue to argue that they are all irrational and it won't matter.

"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

And millions of people like you still don't think Jews are people*

Posted by HamptonSki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=HamptonSki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:42:31, in reply to "millions of people didn't think blacks were people*"

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Almost 1M people voted for Trump even in blue Maryland in 2020. You can continue to argue that they are all irrational and it won't matter.

And I trust Biden to pick people to be around him who know what they're doing

Posted by ibdoc <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ibdoc' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 8:58:37, in reply to "I think it is more responsible to say what some have said: “Biden is an imperfect choice. "

that don't have to worry about being fired at the drop of a hat.

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But he’s the only rational choice.”

more-so it's important to hold every politician to a higher standard. by doing this

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 22:35:33, in reply to "I think it is more responsible to say what some have said: “Biden is an imperfect choice. "

you show that you are living your values. and not just trying to win so you can point at a scoreboard.

biden needs to do much better in how he supports Americans that are feeling like their heritage is being extinguished,

that's not antisemetic, it's simple human decency.

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But he’s the only rational choice.”

agree. i love him *

Posted by Throwsize <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Throwsize' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:07:55, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

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agree. i love him *

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there's a video of the show where professional comics critique/insult people at open mic....

Posted by suburbanmyth <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=suburbanmyth' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:34:45, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

night. bill burr was such a decent human being on that ; my love for him was cemented for all time.

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"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

That's a great one*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:52:44, in reply to "there's a video of the show where professional comics critique/insult people at open mic...."

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night. bill burr was such a decent human being on that ; my love for him was cemented for all time.

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Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet.

Posted by Desert <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Desert' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:00:34, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

He's an acquired taste, but I think about his cruise ship routine way more than I should

Posted by Blazer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Blazer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 22:45:52, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

Man, he's just not for me. Angry Boston guy is not my jam*

Posted by Desert <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Desert' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:57:41, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

This is literally the first time I have ever learned that he isn't universally loved*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:00:56, in reply to "Man, he's just not for me. Angry Boston guy is not my jam*"

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

Nothing/no one is universally loved

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:19:57, in reply to "This is literally the first time I have ever learned that he isn't universally loved*"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

especially true if you count indifference or no opinion, as in comedians*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:39:54, in reply to "Nothing/no one is universally loved"

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Dolly Fucking Parton*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:29:23, in reply to "Nothing/no one is universally loved"

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The right wing is turning on Dolly because she supports Gay Rights*

Posted by JacobRDaugherty <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JacobRDaugherty' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 8:50:57, in reply to "Dolly Fucking Parton*"

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This is probably the best answer so far*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:36:23, in reply to "Dolly Fucking Parton*"

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Oprah, Princess Diana

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:20:36, in reply to "Nothing/no one is universally loved"

just kidding.

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Tom Hanks, Ryan gosling*

Posted by longsnapper <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=longsnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:21:32, in reply to "Oprah, Princess Diana"

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just kidding.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Qanon thinks Tom Hanks is the leader of the pedophile group. It has certainly hurt his career*

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just kidding.

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nothing qanon says about tom hanks is hurting his career

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 8:57:09, in reply to "Qanon thinks Tom Hanks is the leader of the pedophile group. It has certainly hurt his career*"

studios are not not hiring him because crazies on the internet think he's a leader of a pedophile ring

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Carol Burnett, Henry Winkler

Ok maybe a very small number of people are universally loved. But certainly not a comedian whose material consists, at least partially, of saying offensive (albeit funny) things about a variety of different people

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Winkler is Jewish, so he's out*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:47:53, in reply to "Carol Burnett, Henry Winkler"

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Hanks drinks the blood of children. *

Posted by larue33 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=larue33' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:24:26, in reply to "Tom Hanks, Ryan gosling*"

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just kidding.

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those two might actually be true

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:22:12, in reply to "Tom Hanks, Ryan gosling*"

Oprah is pretty close, but she's black.

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just kidding.

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a loud, short, bald, white male from boston isn't universally loved?

Posted by torinese <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=torinese' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:19:09, in reply to "This is literally the first time I have ever learned that he isn't universally loved*"

(i say this as someone who both likes burr and boston)

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

is he short?*

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(i say this as someone who both likes burr and boston)

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

That has to be sarcastic, right?

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:05:58, in reply to "This is literally the first time I have ever learned that he isn't universally loved*"

I don't hate the guy, but I've also really never enjoyed anything he's done either.

Honestly, isn't he considered a consensus top 5 comedian?

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:07:50, in reply to "That has to be sarcastic, right?"

I get that he's a little prickly.

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I don't hate the guy, but I've also really never enjoyed anything he's done either.

You do know that "Old Dads", exists right?

Posted by KingTalkyTiki <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=KingTalkyTiki' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:31:25, in reply to "Honestly, isn't he considered a consensus top 5 comedian?"

Which he wrote, directed, AND starred in.

I enjoyed that movie

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:34:29, in reply to "You do know that "Old Dads", exists right?"

I'm not saying it was a cinematic masterpiece.

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Which he wrote, directed, AND starred in.

I don't like Chappelle, who people tend to think if as one of the greats*

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I get that he's a little prickly.

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I don't hate the guy, but I've also really never enjoyed anything he's done either.

Lots of puns, no real answers

That one I understand the polarization*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:16:33, in reply to "I don't like Chappelle, who people tend to think if as one of the greats*"

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I get that he's a little prickly.

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I don't hate the guy, but I've also really never enjoyed anything he's done either.

literally not true as desert expressed the same sentiment earlier*

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

dots

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:17:02, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

Dots

Posted by GMAW <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=GMAW' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:03:28, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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it took a few minutes before i appreciated it. then he lost me at 6:25

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 22:20:30, in reply to "Dots"

it's funny. like the wnba bit about attendance. yeah, show up. but the "you're smarter, how are you losing to the sports bar guys" question has an easy answer.

before modern laws (kudos to lawtalkers), women were physically subjugated. after modern law, women were subjugated by legality (property of husbands - boo lawtalkers) and societal norms.

the only way for women to be successful was through influence over men (only fans is the modern version) and by ruthlessly, yet "appropriately according to the norms of the time" taking down other women. it was the only way they could climb a ladder.

and still today they are mocked for this. when men have done this to everyone for ever. physically or intellectually or by the good graces of chance. and usually a mix.

for fucks sake, women have only been in the position to get equal education (or employment for about 10 percent of civilization (I'm spitballing here...maybe 20).

the university of michigan had a student union and a "league" building that was the "women's union" on campus.women have only been "allowed" at universities for a handful of generations.

i recognize that this clip stopped, so bill may have acknowledged these fundamental barriers. and he may have held up the remarkable contributions that female humans have made possible - including the most fundamental one -continuation of humanity.

but save the 2 minutes in the middle, this clip was a masterful diversion of male fragility by using effective comedic oration.

he got this right, it's about the money generated by the attention. and his bit was in service to the dollar. respect to him for getting his. but if he didn't call out men for their role in this continuing subjugation, then fuck him on profiting on pushing down our mothers, sisters, partners, and daughters.

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Wut*

Posted by illini21 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illini21' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:48:17, in reply to "it took a few minutes before i appreciated it. then he lost me at 6:25"

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it's almost like it was a standup bit. GTFOOH with this*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:28:50, in reply to "it took a few minutes before i appreciated it. then he lost me at 6:25"

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

This would be valid if people didn't treat standups as "modern-day philosophers"

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:38:08, in reply to "it's almost like it was a standup bit. GTFOOH with this*"

but unfortunately they do. I know Burr and others repeatedly express that they're just comics and shouldn't be taken that way, but the fact is that they are taken that way.

my life is nothing I thought it should be and everything I was worried it would become

like many other great comics, burr's entire career has been as a boundary pusher

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 10:55:02, in reply to "This would be valid if people didn't treat standups as "modern-day philosophers""

him following up a great purposefully boundary pushing 8 minute bit with a "well, actually..." would be the wackest shit possible.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

I’m no comic critic, but I’m not sure what boundary is being pushed by stating the things many men

Posted by Jackie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Jackie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 11:43:58, in reply to "like many other great comics, burr's entire career has been as a boundary pusher"

think about women. And it seems like it just validates the opinions of those who are thrilled to hear someone say their quiet out loud. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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him following up a great purposefully boundary pushing 8 minute bit with a "well, actually..." would be the wackest shit possible.

Kreischer seems like a great guy to hang out with or to interview but his comedy hasn’t drawn me in*

Posted by OB25 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OB25' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:46:36, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Burr’s material is pretty good, but his delivery is not totally for me*

Posted by snipes824 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=snipes824' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:33:09, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

ooo.

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

Lots of puns, no real answers

Agree on Bill Burr, hard disagree on Segura and Kreischer*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:04:18, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

my life is nothing I thought it should be and everything I was worried it would become

Segura's got some great standup. Bert... no.*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:05:02, in reply to "Agree on Bill Burr, hard disagree on Segura and Kreischer*"

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

vids inside

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:14:43, in reply to "Segura's got some great standup. Bert... no.*"

NSFW language

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

TIL: apparently Bert was the inspiration for Van Wilder*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:10:48, in reply to "Segura's got some great standup. Bert... no.*"

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I love Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer so I feel like he should be in my wheelhouse, but I've started and stopped multiple Bill Burr Netflix specials several times.

You love Bert Kreischer?

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:02:20, in reply to "Somebody post something funny by Bill Burr...because I don't get it. Or at least haven't got it yet."

Yeah, can't help you.

he's not wrong, but what good comes of constantly pointing it out?*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:46:57, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

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It's stupid we have to deal with him as an option. But even then, it's better than Trump.*

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:47:51, in reply to "he's not wrong, but what good comes of constantly pointing it out?*"

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Oh, it's incredibly stupid, but what's done is done

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:50:10, in reply to "It's stupid we have to deal with him as an option. But even then, it's better than Trump.*"

and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Biden has surrounded himself with capable (and young) people who are very

Effective.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Again, not debating that, I still don't want him to be President four more years

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:14:41, in reply to "Biden has surrounded himself with capable (and young) people who are very"

and there's got to be someone better.

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Effective.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Given the current alternative, I'll stick with Biden. But really BOTH sides need to do better*

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:07:55, in reply to "Again, not debating that, I still don't want him to be President four more years"

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and there's got to be someone better.

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Effective.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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agreed, it's actually quite pathetic that this is the best we think we can do*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:09:05, in reply to "Given the current alternative, I'll stick with Biden. But really BOTH sides need to do better*"

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and there's got to be someone better.

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Effective.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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You're a Fox viewer? Biden has been extremely effective.*

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:55:08, in reply to "Oh, it's incredibly stupid, but what's done is done"

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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I read the Wash Post and NYT and don't think they'd agree

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:29:04, in reply to "You're a Fox viewer? Biden has been extremely effective.*"

Effective at times in their opinions, rarely "extremely effective" and with clearly things to complain about, even for them as solid Dem papers.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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I'm not questioning his effectiveness at getting things done

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:13:59, in reply to "You're a Fox viewer? Biden has been extremely effective.*"

I'm saying that every time he opens his mouth, or walks, it's obvious that he's too fucking old.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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"Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively?" You can see

Why people assume they you think he can't do his job effectively.

Literally everyone agrees he's too old.

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I'm saying that every time he opens his mouth, or walks, it's obvious that he's too fucking old.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

I have eyes and ears*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:19:15, in reply to ""Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively?" You can see"

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Why people assume they you think he can't do his job effectively.

Literally everyone agrees he's too old.

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I'm saying that every time he opens his mouth, or walks, it's obvious that he's too fucking old.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Still holding out hope for some deaths or drop outs.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:00:14, in reply to "Oh, it's incredibly stupid, but what's done is done"

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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imagine the interesting test case of dying between the election and the Electoral College

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:24:55, in reply to "Still holding out hope for some deaths or drop outs.*"

Many state laws require the state's electors to vote for the person who won the election.

You’re hoping one of them dies? *

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:30:16, in reply to "Still holding out hope for some deaths or drop outs.*"

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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why not both?*

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

the thought of Biden dying during a second term

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:16:12, in reply to "why not both?*"

and Kamala taking over is a little scary to me.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Why?*

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and Kamala taking over is a little scary to me.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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Lots of puns, no real answers

Because she is terrible

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:27:58, in reply to "Why?*"

Every time she opens her mouth it sounds like she is doing a book report on a book that she didn't read.

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and Kamala taking over is a little scary to me.

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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plural.*

Posted by Chuck Woodaby <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Chuck+Woodaby' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:31:01, in reply to "You’re hoping one of them dies? *"

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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That’s fair. *

Posted by jjlocke923 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jjlocke923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:33:01, in reply to "plural.*"

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and we now have a binary choice. Do you want a guy who is clearly too old to do the job effectively or do you want a guy who is a existential threat to the institution of American democracy.

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"The people who talk about anti-woke are the biggest fucking pussies you would ever find."

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:29:06, in reply to "jon stewart on biden"

Truth.

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Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*

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Lots of puns, no real answers

My top 3 are (in no particular order): Burr, Louis CK, Patrice *

Posted by Jersey <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Jersey' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 16:18:12, in reply to "Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*"

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hard for me to keep only at 3. i'd have those 3 plus hedberg, oswalt, cross, chappelle. *

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 8, 2024, 9:16:14, in reply to "My top 3 are (in no particular order): Burr, Louis CK, Patrice *"

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"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Louis is better (IMHO), but Burr is excellent*

Posted by GMAW <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=GMAW' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 15:58:24, in reply to "Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*"

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He's great, but Patrice O'Neal was better.*

Posted by MojoJojo <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MojoJojo' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 14:58:29, in reply to "Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*"

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He's the best. An OG podcaster; I don't listen to it enough but it always delivers.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on May 7, 2024, 13:43:41, in reply to "Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*"

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Let me cook.

i assume the burr show is on netflix -- check it out -- it was awesome from start to finish....

no dead spots. the guy is incredible.

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"Joe Biden is a child molester. You think he gives a #### about how his employees are treated?"

--not your father's republican party

He's doing four nights in Seattle in the near future*

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:47:49, in reply to "i assume the burr show is on netflix -- check it out -- it was awesome from start to finish...."

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no dead spots. the guy is incredible.

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I don't follow stand-up at all anymore, but Burr is awesome*

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:38:26, in reply to "Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*"

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I find myself watching a lot of him lately.*

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:36:10, in reply to "Burr is a top five stand up of all time, and the best in my adult lifetime*"

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I listen to his Philly rant about once a month:

?si=RcIZSR5HooSOIDqC

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Lots of puns, no real answers

I love the countdown check ins he does on that one to show he's not leaving early.*

Posted by JFG <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=JFG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on May 7, 2024, 13:46:12, in reply to "I listen to his Philly rant about once a month:"

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