Share of revenue on stadium ticket sales, I would guess.*

Posted by longsnapper on June 9, 2025, 15:32:55, in reply to "So where is the ROI for PE?"

Previous Message They don't do anything out of the kindness of their hearts, because they have no hearts. Previous Message Cue the Dakich, "this won't end well".... SCOOP: Penn State and UCLA are the first two schools to sign on to @Elevate 's new College Investment Initiative, thus leading college athletic departments' shift toward private equity investment. Story for @Sportico w/ @soshnick & @novy_williams 👇 https://t.co/UHdrCM9CZV — Daniel Libit (@DanielLibit) June 9, 2025 . Lots of puns, no real answers

Gotta be some athletic gear, right? Some sort of discount on TV ads during PSU games? *

Posted by osklister on June 9, 2025, 15:26:00, in reply to "So where is the ROI for PE?"

JMHO, but I'm not sure the big boys ever left.

Posted by osklister on June 9, 2025, 14:03:24, in reply to "I hate that we’re now heading right back into the murky waters of illegal payments"

My understanding is that the extra payments are legit now

Posted by RVA on June 9, 2025, 13:01:26, in reply to "I hate that we’re now heading right back into the murky waters of illegal payments"

My nephew is going there to play baseball next year. And we are all very worried for him.*

Posted by LovetheChief on June 9, 2025, 16:10:43, in reply to "I am beginning to worry about my daughter at her D2 school. Purdue Northwest. She plays softball"

Previous Message the D1 Purdue school in Fort Wayne just folded baseball and softball programs starting next year. Hoping it doesn't continue with other Purdue schools. Previous Message Nobody really knows how it's going to play out, but the conversation is about some of the smaller women's squads are really going to be hurting. My daughter was getting some looks for pole vault, and while she's not at recruit standards for most of the D1 schools she's interested in, she's been getting "come try out/maybe walkon" notes. Most of that seems to be drying up (although she's still getting recruited by D2/3, it's also slowed down). I'm curious if that changes over the next couple months. None of the coaches were sure, with some even cutting their rosters down before this past season. Unless you're a multi-event athlete, you aren't very attractive to them. Previous Message https://x.com/samcehrlich/status/1931157493310488662?s=46&t=Z2WDeGTY1oiKv3V21L4QWw

let's be real, your daughters college education will be paid for by:

Posted by ijustkrushalot on June 9, 2025, 13:56:02, in reply to "as I've said, my daughter is a 2026 committed to a summit league school for soccer. She was offered"

It's a long story, but here's the gist as I understand it

Posted by LWillhite on June 9, 2025, 13:29:14, in reply to "as I've said, my daughter is a 2026 committed to a summit league school for soccer. She was offered"

Every school can budget up to $20.5 million for its NIL spread across all its programs. Let's use NIU vs. Loyola (an A-10 school) as an example. NIU obviously won't budget anywhere close to $20.5 million for football and basketball, but let's say the Huskies try to budget $3 million for NIL. Where's that coming from? Are they going to increase their TV money with their move from the MAC to Mountain West to cover that? Probably not. So they're going to have to scrape dollars from their non-revenue sports' budgets to make up the difference. Loyola, on the other hand, only needs to decide how much it wants to spend on men's hoops. Let's say it's $1.5 million. As a top 8 basketball conference with some big markets (Chi, St. L, Pitt, Boston, Philly, New York, DC), it has decent TV deals with CBS, ESPN and NBC. They're going to have to swipe less money -- if any -- from its non-revenue sports in order to compete. At least...this is my understanding. Previous Message and accepted a full ride. In the recruiting process, an A10 school was pushing hard for her to commit there. That coach was of the very definite opinion that the mid majors that had had football would be cutting their Olympic programs. now, easy to say for him since they had no football. but it makes sense. if you are someplace without football, there will not be the financial drain of putting everything back into football. On the other hand, if there is no football, what is your revenue to split? I'm not sure I still understand it. Previous Message Nobody really knows how it's going to play out, but the conversation is about some of the smaller women's squads are really going to be hurting. My daughter was getting some looks for pole vault, and while she's not at recruit standards for most of the D1 schools she's interested in, she's been getting "come try out/maybe walkon" notes. Most of that seems to be drying up (although she's still getting recruited by D2/3, it's also slowed down). I'm curious if that changes over the next couple months. None of the coaches were sure, with some even cutting their rosters down before this past season. Unless you're a multi-event athlete, you aren't very attractive to them. Previous Message https://x.com/samcehrlich/status/1931157493310488662?s=46&t=Z2WDeGTY1oiKv3V21L4QWw

yep, that about checks out what we've been hearing, at least from the D1 coaches*

Posted by illinibone on June 9, 2025, 21:34:54, in reply to "Regarding the cutting of rosters before this past season..."

Previous Message My daughter had a friend from her HS who also went to ISU. This friend is a women's pole vaulter. I don't know the exact situation now, but I recall my daughter relaying a similar story that her friend told her - that there were ~5 women's pole vaulters (I think receiving some bit of a scholarship), but that was going to be cut to 2 for the Spring 2025 season. Anymore who stayed would be considered walk-ons. (Again, I may not have that fully correct, but that was what I recall the general situation.) Also, this: https://eiupanthers.com/news/2025/5/12/general-eiu-discontinues-mens-womens-tennis.aspx Previous Message Nobody really knows how it's going to play out, but the conversation is about some of the smaller women's squads are really going to be hurting. My daughter was getting some looks for pole vault, and while she's not at recruit standards for most of the D1 schools she's interested in, she's been getting "come try out/maybe walkon" notes. Most of that seems to be drying up (although she's still getting recruited by D2/3, it's also slowed down). I'm curious if that changes over the next couple months. None of the coaches were sure, with some even cutting their rosters down before this past season. Unless you're a multi-event athlete, you aren't very attractive to them. Previous Message https://x.com/samcehrlich/status/1931157493310488662?s=46&t=Z2WDeGTY1oiKv3V21L4QWw Script Kiddie

But, say, a Marquette — why wouldn’t they shovel all 20M of limit at 7 guys on Bball team?*

Posted by cpsteine on June 6, 2025, 23:00:36, in reply to "No, they don’t have the revenue or TV contracts to compete with football schools.*"

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SEC has been waiting for this.

Posted by EffinIllini on June 9, 2025, 12:23:45, in reply to "Nah. A bunch of the $$$ just goes back under the table"

Maybe not Alabama. Bet they didn't get as dirty with Saban. Didn't have to. But now they will. Previous Message That goes for football and basketball. The salaries aren't going backward. Previous Message

Something like that. tOSU and Michigan are still going to pay big-time...

Posted by osklister on June 7, 2025, 14:23:55, in reply to "Nah. A bunch of the $$$ just goes back under the table"

I would like to be wrong, but right now it's a math problem

Posted by LWillhite on June 7, 2025, 9:02:59, in reply to "Nah. A bunch of the $$$ just goes back under the table"

1. Ohio State just discovered it takes $20 million to win it all in football. The Buckeyes are not the only team in the country that has gone above $20 million in order to compete this fall. 2. I'm only guessing at the Buckeyes' hoops outlay, but I'll be conservative and say it's $6 million for Thornton, Tilly, Noel, Ojianwana, Royal, Chatman, Cupps, Mobley, White, Bynum (frosh), Grujicic (from FC Barcelona II) and Herro. 3. Also, let's assume the OSU powers-that-be decide to devote $0 to all other sports...which seems unrealistic. Now, let's figure out how Ohio State is going to stay under the new cap. Do they tell hoops to take a haircut to $3 million, tell football to drop to $17.5 million and tell their 34 other sports they'll get nothing and like it? Officially, perhaps. Unofficially, hell no. The boosters will do their best to make up the gap and ensure the Bucks don't lose anybody based on bucks. Previous Message That goes for football and basketball. The salaries aren't going backward. Previous Message

I don’t think so. NIL is an order of magnitude bigger than the under the table payments were

Posted by meanjeans on June 7, 2025, 8:37:39, in reply to "Nah. A bunch of the $$$ just goes back under the table"

You can hide $100K here and there I guess, pay off some mortgages, give some kids some cars. But Ohio State isn’t going to hide an extra $10M “under the table”. There’s not going to be some QB cashing $2M and the IRS isn’t going to take an interest in it. So, I’m not sure the under the table piece will be meaningful in terms of balance of power because it would have to be too big to hide to make a difference. Previous Message That goes for football and basketball. The salaries aren't going backward. Previous Message BLAM, there's my opinion people - behold

Maybe, but I don't think so.

Posted by larue33 on June 7, 2025, 1:57:11, in reply to "Nah. A bunch of the $$$ just goes back under the table"

But we have a commission to enforce these things now

Posted by biclops on June 6, 2025, 23:41:57, in reply to "Nah. A bunch of the $$$ just goes back under the table"

It’s certainly going to be a complete shitshow.*

Posted by OB25 on June 6, 2025, 21:22:28, in reply to "I don’t see how the FMV standard doesn’t result in lawsuits *"

Previous Message Previous Message https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-college-athletes-will-be-paid-after-house-v-ncaa-settlement-nil-changes-enforcement-contracts-and-more/ Previous Message https://x.com/samcehrlich/status/1931157493310488662?s=46&t=Z2WDeGTY1oiKv3V21L4QWw When something is happening, young people like to say it’s “lit.”

Full House*

Posted by DocWalk20 on June 6, 2025, 21:13:40, in reply to "Big Momma's House"

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