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Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:29:47

Such a shame...they competed neck and neck with the similar Breyer's brand but Breyer's went to FDD several years ago except for Vanilla ice cream, so I would ALWAYS lean towards Dreyer's (or Edy's if in midwest/east). This year Dreyer's has now cheapened out with lower milkfat contents and gone to the FDD. I will not support!

Look for Tillamook when it's on sale...totally worth it.

Similar thing has happened with milk chocolate candy

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2025, 6:25:05, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

You need a certain amount of cocoa butter to be called milk chocolate. Companies are swapping it out for fats and other simulations.

From the NY Times:

Almost no one noticed when, sometime over the last few years, the packaging on Almond Joy, Mr. Goodbar and Rolo was updated to remove the words “milk chocolate.”

The edits were easy to miss: The description on the front of the Mr. Goodbar wrapper changed from “milk chocolate with peanuts” to “chocolate candy with peanuts.” Almond Joy is now marketed as a “coconut and almond chocolate candy bar.” Rolos are now wrapped in “rich chocolate candy” instead of “milk chocolate.”

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Experts say high cocoa prices have triggered a wave of “reformulations,” the industry term for recipe changes. As the Halloween season boosts demand, some candy companies are replacing expensive cocoa butter with other fats, a swap that means their products no longer meet the U.S. regulatory definition of milk chocolate and can no longer be called that on packaging.

Also discussed: thinner coatings, chunks of chocolate-like substance instead of real chips, and more sugar to mask the lower quality ingredients.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/30/climate/candy-chocolate-cocoa-prices-climate-change.html

Stop me when I’m passing by *

Posted by PapaDels <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=PapaDels' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 22:03:51, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

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I have schweppervessence and wessonality.

all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2025, 7:18:14, in reply to "Stop me when I’m passing by *"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

at least it still qualifies as "dairy"!*

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 15:02:12, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

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strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre contemplating a crime

Not gonna happen. Trump will sue them to not do that*

Posted by timmer <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=timmer' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:50:36, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

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(for rent)

"Have you heard about this frozen dairy dessert?!?! I had a man with tears in his eyes...

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 15:00:24, in reply to "Not gonna happen. Trump will sue them to not do that*"

come up to me and say, "sir they're killing ice cream, you need to do something""

And gis name wa bob from CA*

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2025, 1:43:36, in reply to ""Have you heard about this frozen dairy dessert?!?! I had a man with tears in his eyes..."

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come up to me and say, "sir they're killing ice cream, you need to do something""

Recrudescence

I don't understand what this means... it's not ice cream?

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:41:22, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

Just do Haagen Daas butter pecan or pistachio and be happy.

You hear me talking, hillbilly boy?

correct, it does not meet the USDA requirements of milkfat content to be called ice cream any more

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:47:02, in reply to "I don't understand what this means... it's not ice cream? "

...and Haagen Dazs is about 4x the price
Breyer's and Dreyer's/Edy's were typically available on sale in standard carton size for $3-4 on sale.

Gotta live a little, my good man. *

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:49:19, in reply to "correct, it does not meet the USDA requirements of milkfat content to be called ice cream any more"

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...and Haagen Dazs is about 4x the price
Breyer's and Dreyer's/Edy's were typically available on sale in standard carton size for $3-4 on sale.

You hear me talking, hillbilly boy?

ooo

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:47:01, in reply to "I don't understand what this means... it's not ice cream? "

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskBaking/comments/1ec28vj/frozen_dessert_vs_ice_cream/

from the first response...

It's about fat content and how much air is in it.

There has to be a minimum amount of fat to be labelled "cream" and overrun, or how much air is whipped in, has to be under a certain amount too.

So "frozen dessert" can range from anything like premium high quality plant-based ice cream to cheap airy whipped coffee creamer that is mostly air like a tub of Cool Whip. "Frozen dairy dessert" is emphasizing that even though it is not "ice cream" it is entirely milk based, probably low fat.

There may be a rule of thumb out there but there is so much variation brand to brand and even product to product that there is no hard and fast rule. The main thing is work quickly with cold tools and you will retain a pleasant texture when refrozen.

The FDA requires that ice creams with solid additions (nuts, chocolate, fruit, etc.) contain at least 8 percent milk fat, while plain ice creams are required to have at least 10 percent milk fat.

Labels like "ice cream" "premium ice cream" and "super premium ice cream" are regulated terms and refer to how much of the final product is air but I don't know the percentages.

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

they've reduced the milk fat and solids to the point they can't legally call it ice cream...

Posted by shua <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=shua' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:46:46, in reply to "I don't understand what this means... it's not ice cream? "

obviously it's cheaper and they'll still charge the same amount

gross. buying Haagen-Dazs Vanilla or Coffee is always the right move*

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:41:15, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

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to wit - HD Coffee ice cream ingredients: cream, skim milk, cane sugar, egg yolks, coffee*

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:44:22, in reply to "gross. buying Haagen-Dazs Vanilla or Coffee is always the right move*"

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I still can't figure out why Yoyo laughed at me for saying this very thing.

Posted by complainant <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=complainant' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 22:13:37, in reply to "to wit - HD Coffee ice cream ingredients: cream, skim milk, cane sugar, egg yolks, coffee*"

I think Jeff was asking about ice cream, and I named the two I buy that are available in both Los Angeles and Chicago.

Van Leeuwen was the other.

I assumed he was laughing at the HD, just to be a snooty jerk. But it's hard to get better than HD coffee.

to wit - purple drink ingredients: sugar, water, purple

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:55:58, in reply to "to wit - HD Coffee ice cream ingredients: cream, skim milk, cane sugar, egg yolks, coffee*"

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

the enshitification of all consumer products continues

Posted by IlliniSax05 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniSax05' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:39:55, in reply to "Ice Cream fans...Dreyer's/Edy's has gone to the dark side with "Frozen Dairy Dessert""

Why do you hate me, Sammich?

MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
-Sammich, 1/15/2011

Yep, it's one thing to reduce the size of the product (see also Orange Juice)...

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2025, 14:43:37, in reply to "the enshitification of all consumer products continues"

...but putting out an inferior product that no longer meets the USDA definition of ice cream is just awful.

As for the size, the "standard" has gone from a half gallon to 1.75 quarts to 1.5 quarts. OJ has gone from 64 oz to 59, 52, and now 46 oz

Like the non-existent "regular" toilet paper roll as "mega" is about what was once standard*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2025, 6:27:24, in reply to "Yep, it's one thing to reduce the size of the product (see also Orange Juice)..."

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