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College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 12:51:34

how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score.

Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

With AI, any colleges that don't use test scores are worthless institutions.*

Posted by gullit <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gullit' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:51:17, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

gotta love that the average GPA for current Harvard students = around 3.8

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:10:40, in reply to "With AI, any colleges that don't use test scores are worthless institutions.*"

I recently heard the famous Steven Pinker from Harvard complain that students are worse, do less work, often don't come to class, and expect As. And yet he says he goes along with the trend, because he can't fight it himself.

It annoyed him that Harvard has all these world-class professors and instructors, and students are less likely to engage and take advantage of them.

Harvard and most ivies have long inflated grades*

Posted by torinese <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=torinese' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:56:14, in reply to "gotta love that the average GPA for current Harvard students = around 3.8"

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Grade inflation is real; link to blog post about UCSD students

Posted by jfinsocal <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jfinsocal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:39:22, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

Not being able to do basic math even with an A in high school calculus class. Apparently UC eliminated test scores in the admission process a few years ago with predictable results.

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/bad-education-is-a-terrible-way-to

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

take a sample SAT Math test and see how easy many of the questions are

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:45:58, in reply to "Grade inflation is real; link to blog post about UCSD students"

I took a couple last year, and sure, there are some hard questions. But so many are so easy for anybody with basic skills. What are people learning if they can't reach the median?

An AP score of 3 as passing does not help. That proves little.

there is a reason places like Princeton review exist*

Posted by torinese <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=torinese' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:55:31, in reply to "take a sample SAT Math test and see how easy many of the questions are"

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Also there's a calculator app that's part of the SAT test software

Posted by illinibone <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illinibone' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:26:13, in reply to "take a sample SAT Math test and see how easy many of the questions are"

Apparently just spending an hour getting to know Desmos allows you to mostly guess your way above 700 on math and still have time left over at the end of the section to go back and double check.

Plenty of youtube videos describing it.

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Script Kiddie

Meant to be under Potomac vvv *

Posted by illinibone <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illinibone' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:26:47, in reply to "Also there's a calculator app that's part of the SAT test software"

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Script Kiddie

My son is 26 and took the ACT as a bet with his friend this year

Posted by jfinsocal <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jfinsocal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:49:34, in reply to "take a sample SAT Math test and see how easy many of the questions are"

No studying and they went out drinking the night before.

He got a 32 (vs 34 in 2015 when in high school) but he lost the bet because his friend got a 34.

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I took the sample SATs without a graphing calculator

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:51:51, in reply to "My son is 26 and took the ACT as a bet with his friend this year"

I remember one question about intersections on the axes that was challenging to solve analytically. And then the answer explained how to do it with a calculator, at which point you could just read the graph. No kidding.

Lee Harvey, YOU are a madman

Posted by redgrange77 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=redgrange77' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 12:00:34, in reply to "I took the sample SATs without a graphing calculator"

I wanna party with you cowboy.

hate that as an old, I don't do those challenging things often enough.

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LOL, just go to the library and try one. But about taking classes...

I think about taking formal classes online or in-person and wrestle with what I would do with it. For example, my son works for Duolingo, and I was taking one of its classes for a while, and dropped out because I had no way to use it.

Same with advanced programming in this or that, as another example. Then what?

my daughter is HS jr. she scored 30 on ACT first attempt ranked 4th out 300?of

Posted by redgrange77 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=redgrange77' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:28:43, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

was a disturbance at her test site during math section, she didn't finish last 4 of the 60 problems. She thinks she can get up to 32-33.

She'll qualify for auto admit UT - Austin.. also has some east coast schools recruiting her. went from wanting pre-med to pre-law (effing lawyers).

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

is standardized test score inflation also a thing, or are kids just smarter now?

Posted by Sammich <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sammich' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:44:28, in reply to "my daughter is HS jr. she scored 30 on ACT first attempt ranked 4th out 300?of "

I don't think I knew five people who got >30 on the ACT.

strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre contemplating a crime

Yes in a few ways. I think they've been rescaled (DT mentions below). And superscoring allows higher

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:52:38, in reply to "is standardized test score inflation also a thing, or are kids just smarter now?"

headline scores than before. For example, mini's ACT superscore is 2 full pts higher than his highest single day score.

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I don't think I knew five people who got >30 on the ACT.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

we constantly hear about how less prepared students are in college

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:49:40, in reply to "is standardized test score inflation also a thing, or are kids just smarter now?"

But let's take UIUC's engineering class. When I attended, it was almost entirely in-state and almost all white. Now the percentage of out-of-state and foreign is far, far higher. The demographics changed considerably.

The SAT people have said that the tests have been re-normed because they are not absolute metrics. They are meant to reflect relative performance. So you can get more people at the high end when the test is easier for average takers.

mini "got tired" and didn't do well on the science section (last section) the first time he took it

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:31:09, in reply to "my daughter is HS jr. she scored 30 on ACT first attempt ranked 4th out 300?of "

I raised a soft child.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

it's her life, her decision, I give positive encouragement and ask questions

Posted by redgrange77 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=redgrange77' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:38:34, in reply to "mini "got tired" and didn't do well on the science section (last section) the first time he took it"

and there whenever some assistance can be given but many things I don't agree with her mother...stay in my lane proud of her.

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I raised a soft child.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Any chance they are using a 5 point scale?

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 7:24:56, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

Agree the GPAs seem hard to believe if it’s on a 4 point scale. Unless they are intentionally being super-selective for early admissions and deferring the majority of candidates, to boost their numbers.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Got hired for my first job out of UI and they were impressed with my 3.9 GPA...

Posted by RSMBob <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=RSMBob' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 15:48:56, in reply to "Any chance they are using a 5 point scale?"

...didn't have the heart to tell them that Illinois used a 5 point system.

That being said, I went from All Pro (probation) my first semester to Dean's List my final semester. 152 credit hours in 4 years.

To bonbon's point, they are recalculating by (probably) giving a boost to AP/IB/Honors classes.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 10:38:59, in reply to "Any chance they are using a 5 point scale?"

But the kids who are taking those classes and getting As and Bs in them (hence the >4.0 GPA) are doing better than 31 on the ACT.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

On average, probably, but there's also people that aren't great at standardized tests.*

Posted by illinibone <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illinibone' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:27:23, in reply to "To bonbon's point, they are recalculating by (probably) giving a boost to AP/IB/Honors classes."

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But the kids who are taking those classes and getting As and Bs in them (hence the >4.0 GPA) are doing better than 31 on the ACT.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Script Kiddie

we used to call them morans

Posted by bbonb <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bbonb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 14:44:33, in reply to "On average, probably, but there's also people that aren't great at standardized tests.*"

or, as the nuns in elementary school called them, “public school kids”

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But the kids who are taking those classes and getting As and Bs in them (hence the >4.0 GPA) are doing better than 31 on the ACT.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Yes, I agree. But the data are presumably means or medians and not any one particular student.*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:31:55, in reply to "On average, probably, but there's also people that aren't great at standardized tests.*"

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But the kids who are taking those classes and getting As and Bs in them (hence the >4.0 GPA) are doing better than 31 on the ACT.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

A.P. and I.B. classes can easily push the GPA well above 4.0*

Posted by bbonb <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bbonb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 7:40:30, in reply to "Any chance they are using a 5 point scale?"

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest

Posted by FidelGoodell <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=FidelGoodell' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 5:28:42, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

my daughter had 4.0 unweighted in HS but was back somewhat from the top in weighted

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 11:58:50, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

She saw no reason to take honors in some subjects she was uninterested in, with our full concurrence. That cost her a tenth or more in weighted GPA.

That was one reason our local school system dropped class rank. Well, a lawsuit about picking a valedictorian didn't help, either.

He’ll be fine. People put way too much stock in an undergraduate degree at this point. And way too

Posted by voiceofreason <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=voiceofreason' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:36:19, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

much expense.

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Over for what? Ivy League, probably. What’s wrong with the University of Colorado?*

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:15:15, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Legitimately bronchial.

The world needs ditch diggers too*

Posted by gvibes <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gvibes' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:06:49, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

We're all gonna be ditch diggers when the Chinese AI botnet shuts down the internet. *

Posted by doubledown <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=doubledown' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:20:31, in reply to "The world needs ditch diggers too*"

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

They all admittedly recalculate GPAs based on formulae with varying degrees of transparency. Auburn

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 7:36:59, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

does too. I don’t know how they do it but there’s no way the median kid with a 4.25 GPA has a 31 ACT. A 31 is a decent score but it’s not an outstanding score. A 4.25 is an outstanding GPA. So I don’t believe that those numbers are accurate, at least in terms of real world academics.

specifically about your son we have the same issue compounded by the move to a new school. mini’s freshman grades were similar to your kid’s. The light only went on for him when we talked to a college counselor who gave us the facts about his desired schools, including the number of AP classes kids were taking. Since then, his grades have improved substantially but are weighed down by the low early grades. The good news is that colleges weigh increasing trends and know that boys take more time to mature. There are rumors that some colleges will throw out freshman grades for boys.

For us, mini’s Pennsylvania school is highly rated but known for not pushing kids. They do not, for example, allow freshmen to take APs. So lots of kids in the Atlanta school have two more APs (the FR class and a Sophomore follow on) than him, helping with academic rigor scores and weighting. Also, the way the new school transferred his Pennsylvania grades, they reduce his GPA because of math reasons. Our college counselor helped craft an explanation of these issues.

On the good side, he’s at an inner city public high school and has some extra curricular activities that are not traditional for nerds like him. So I hope that’s going to help at some of these more selective schools.

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

auburn is public, right? should be able to foia that, if people are still doing that these days*

Posted by torinese <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=torinese' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:02:04, in reply to "They all admittedly recalculate GPAs based on formulae with varying degrees of transparency. Auburn "

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Send him to trade school. *

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 7:28:37, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Eat arbys*

Posted by lcubed <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=lcubed' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 6:26:44, in reply to "Do they really inflate the gpa? How? I’m starting to get worried about my oldest"

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He’s a smart kid in honors/AP classes but his gpa is probably 3.5. Feel like it’s already over for him as a sophomore

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Lulz

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 21:05:08, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

Nation’s Parents Release Annual Rankings of Top 50 ‘Perfectly Good’ State Schools

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRU-ulojA3a/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

We’ve got college at home.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 4:26:48, in reply to "Lulz"

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Nation’s Parents Release Annual Rankings of Top 50 ‘Perfectly Good’ State Schools

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRU-ulojA3a/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

How are your kiddos faring thus far? My senior is in at Pitt, Minnesota and MSOE

Posted by nash <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=nash' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 15:24:50, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

All the apps are in except for a few privates.

Don’t send your kid to Pitt if they’re looking for a normal undergrad experience.

Posted by opossum jenkins <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=opossum+jenkins' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 9:42:37, in reply to "How are your kiddos faring thus far? My senior is in at Pitt, Minnesota and MSOE"

I went to grad school there. And I was 30 when I graduated. But the urban setting and layout and decentralized student community were weird. The opposite of UIUC. I remember being put off by cheerleaders doing a pep rally on a little grass patch before everyone loaded on 693 yellow school buses and trucking down to Heinz field. The bars sucked between 5th and Forbes. Most crossed the river to head south to Pittsburgh’s general bar scene, which wasn’t very college like.

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All the apps are in except for a few privates.

what's msoe? also noobster was at beloved MATSE for a year

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 19:52:16, in reply to "How are your kiddos faring thus far? My senior is in at Pitt, Minnesota and MSOE"

transferred to scUM sustainability and is now in MATSE here.

torinese gave him good advice a few years ago, so he's happy to pay it forard if any of your kiddos want to know the different vibes.

my take as an old, beloved is a more friendly and supportive place with better asian restaurants.

scUM is better at getting undergrades research opportunities even as rising sophmores. noobster was in the solomon lab for two summers and learned that he wants to be a lifer in discovering materials that can help society.

also, scUM has a much better coop housing situation. both noobgirl and nobster have thrived in these types of housing situatuons. it's an underrated education situation. they both learned so many life skills navigating the coop life.

any of you olds want to know more, let me know.

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All the apps are in except for a few privates.

Milwaukee School of Engineering.

Posted by nash <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=nash' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 20:02:41, in reply to "what's msoe? also noobster was at beloved MATSE for a year"

Glad everything worked out for your kiddo.

sounds like a good place. i have family in mke-area. hope things go well

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 20:11:28, in reply to "Milwaukee School of Engineering."

for your kiddo's apps!

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Glad everything worked out for your kiddo.

My kiddo has cast a wide net because she's on the cusp of D2 Track and Field

Posted by illinibone <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illinibone' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 18:51:45, in reply to "How are your kiddos faring thus far? My senior is in at Pitt, Minnesota and MSOE"

The stupid house settlement killed pretty much any possibility of D1 except at maybe a few minor schools. Indoor season starts in January, and she's already doing well better than her PR (but still ~2 feet short of what the beloved coach wants).

Academic acceptance at Montana State, Colorado - Colorado Springs, Azusa Pacific (has a spot on the track team, but D3, former HS teammate goes here)

Apps into Purdue, UWashington, Auburn, UMass, Colorado School of Mines (probably her first choice).

UofCal schools are all one app, but not commmon app, but a bunch of those are going in this weekend (EA is 12/1). I think SD, Irvine, Santa Barbara, and maybe SLO.

It's crazy to me that app fees haven't changed in more than 30 years from when I was applying. Back then $50 was a nice steak dinner for 2. Today it barely gets you chipotle.

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A friend of mine has a freshman at Col School of Mines. The kid really likes it there.

Posted by harb <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=harb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 19:52:30, in reply to "My kiddo has cast a wide net because she's on the cusp of D2 Track and Field"

Probably goes skiing every weekend now that slopes are open.

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[Assassin] Harb is the epitome of a Goldfish Troll.
[Opey] Assholes gonna asshole
[tiki] #### all the way off with that, you bloodthirsty hilljack.

Snowboarding on the weekends was one of the reasons both Mines and Montana State were on her list

Posted by illinibone <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illinibone' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 0:18:02, in reply to "A friend of mine has a freshman at Col School of Mines. The kid really likes it there. "

She has a better chance of pole vaulting at Mines, but only slightly--it's a sport that attracts a lot of engineering type brains.

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Cool. Best of luck to her. My friend’s boy is the second to attend mines from this area that I know

Posted by harb <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=harb' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 7:10:15, in reply to "Snowboarding on the weekends was one of the reasons both Mines and Montana State were on her list"

Of. The other one is quite a bit older and now in the tunneling world. Some of the projects his dad (just a friend of a friend) has told me about are pretty incredible.

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She has a better chance of pole vaulting at Mines, but only slightly--it's a sport that attracts a lot of engineering type brains.

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school of mines seems like a very cool program. but i thin it heavily values in

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 19:54:40, in reply to "A friend of mine has a freshman at Col School of Mines. The kid really likes it there. "

state apps. so your pal's kid must have had a great app.

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It's an engineering school. Of course (and sadly) it's mostly dudes.*

Posted by illinibone <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=illinibone' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 0:16:43, in reply to "school of mines seems like a very cool program. but i thin it heavily values in "

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state apps. so your pal's kid must have had a great app.

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Probably goes skiing every weekend now that slopes are open.

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69% dudes. Nice... unless you are one of the dudes above 31%.*

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 20:00:07, in reply to "school of mines seems like a very cool program. but i thin it heavily values in "

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state apps. so your pal's kid must have had a great app.

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Probably goes skiing every weekend now that slopes are open.

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kind of like michigan tech. it's a great school, but the student body is 70% male and 80% white

Posted by Nobster <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Nobster' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 20:14:12, in reply to "69% dudes. Nice... unless you are one of the dudes above 31%.*"

which is cool for smart white kids.

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state apps. so your pal's kid must have had a great app.

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Probably goes skiing every weekend now that slopes are open.

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I loved Michigan Tech, but the 70% dudes thing wasn’t great

Posted by IlliniOllie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniOllie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 21:29:00, in reply to "kind of like michigan tech. it's a great school, but the student body is 70% male and 80% white"

also, if you decided that you didn’t want to do engineering, that probably meant transferring, whereas the beloved has programs for everything.

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which is cool for smart white kids.

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state apps. so your pal's kid must have had a great app.

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Probably goes skiing every weekend now that slopes are open.

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This was the main reason I chose Illinois over Georgia Tech in 1991. Would have had to transfer out

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 26, 2025, 6:27:00, in reply to "I loved Michigan Tech, but the 70% dudes thing wasn’t great"

if I didn’t stick with engineering.

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also, if you decided that you didn’t want to do engineering, that probably meant transferring, whereas the beloved has programs for everything.

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which is cool for smart white kids.

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state apps. so your pal's kid must have had a great app.

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Probably goes skiing every weekend now that slopes are open.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

mini is in at Kennesaw St, Auburn, Pitt and PSU. EA to the Beloved, scUM, UF, Va Tech, Clemson, NCSU

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 15:49:23, in reply to "How are your kiddos faring thus far? My senior is in at Pitt, Minnesota and MSOE"

Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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May I presume Kennesaw State is an extreme fallback school?

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:59:45, in reply to "mini is in at Kennesaw St, Auburn, Pitt and PSU. EA to the Beloved, scUM, UF, Va Tech, Clemson, NCSU"

One of those things is not like the other.

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Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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Yeah. It’s got a good local reputation for some things and they’ve poured money into it apparently.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 18:34:53, in reply to "May I presume Kennesaw State is an extreme fallback school?"

But it’s 5-10 years away from being a commuter school.

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One of those things is not like the other.

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Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I told my kid Pedo State is the one place I’d not pay for.

Posted by nash <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=nash' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:39:02, in reply to "mini is in at Kennesaw St, Auburn, Pitt and PSU. EA to the Beloved, scUM, UF, Va Tech, Clemson, NCSU"

My hatred of that school is not rational.

One of my friends is sending his daughter to Indiana

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 18:03:37, in reply to "I told my kid Pedo State is the one place I’d not pay for."

and it's killing him.

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My hatred of that school is not rational.

I can understand that *

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:59:04, in reply to "I told my kid Pedo State is the one place I’d not pay for."

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My hatred of that school is not rational.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

How is he at yelling "WAR DAM EAGLE" at any random time/place? *

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:33:46, in reply to "mini is in at Kennesaw St, Auburn, Pitt and PSU. EA to the Beloved, scUM, UF, Va Tech, Clemson, NCSU"

Good arm for TP'ing at Toomer's Corner?

I didn’t realize any places gave decisions this early. Sprout has applied EA to MD, Georgetown…

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:28:05, in reply to "mini is in at Kennesaw St, Auburn, Pitt and PSU. EA to the Beloved, scUM, UF, Va Tech, Clemson, NCSU"

UVA, and George Washington. I think of those, Georgetown is the only one which sends decisions back before mid-January.

American and PSU are also on his list, but PSU requires some extra materials and is rolling admissions, while American doesn’t have EA.

Georgetown is his first choice but I don’t know if he’ll get in, or if we would be able to afford it if he does. Hard to justify any of the others over UMD, which is as good as any of them except UVA (and not far behind there) while being a third or a quarter the cost.

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Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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My kid loved Maryland.

Posted by nash <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=nash' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:37:59, in reply to "I didn’t realize any places gave decisions this early. Sprout has applied EA to MD, Georgetown…"

Very good chance she’ll go there if accepted.

The four he was admitted to as rolling. When I applied schools like Illinois and Michigan used it.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:40:37, in reply to "I didn’t realize any places gave decisions this early. Sprout has applied EA to MD, Georgetown…"

But now only a few selective schools (Pitt, PSU, Minny apparently) have it. Replaced by early action I guess.

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Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Then there are the low tier schools that emailed telling Sprout he was in. Just needs to apply…*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:41:36, in reply to "The four he was admitted to as rolling. When I applied schools like Illinois and Michigan used it. "

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But now only a few selective schools (Pitt, PSU, Minny apparently) have it. Replaced by early action I guess.

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Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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Yeah we have several those. KSU is the only one he applied to just to ensure he got in somewhere.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:45:12, in reply to "Then there are the low tier schools that emailed telling Sprout he was in. Just needs to apply…*"

We expect him to get into a few more but not all of them. We’re worried about Georgia Tech.

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But now only a few selective schools (Pitt, PSU, Minny apparently) have it. Replaced by early action I guess.

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Regular Decision to Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Duke.

He's not getting into Duke. Hopefully will get into Illinois and Ga Tech as those are his 2A and 2B choices. Duke is 1.

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“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

it's all open growth plates.*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 13:03:39, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

"the sum value of my outfit will always be higher than yours."

Wasn't Alabama offering free tuition to OOS kids with a 4.0 or better a few years back?

Posted by haighter <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=haighter' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 13:02:33, in reply to "College application season is in full swing and colleges are inflating admitted student GPAs "

To try to bolster their academic reputation? Would Auburn be doing something similar?

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

It was for a 32 Composite ACT that I know of...

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 19:34:37, in reply to "Wasn't Alabama offering free tuition to OOS kids with a 4.0 or better a few years back?"

I know several local parents whose kids took them up on it. One came back after a semester due to "severe culture shock."

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

My daughter received the UA Presidential Scholarships

Posted by jfinsocal <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=jfinsocal' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:53:57, in reply to "Wasn't Alabama offering free tuition to OOS kids with a 4.0 or better a few years back?"

High school class of 2015. She needed a 32 on the ACT. When my son applied the next year it might have increased to 33 but he took the half ride at Miami Ohio.

Great deal.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

That was a while back. I’d heard second hand that they’d scaled that back a lot, but IDK.*

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:29:30, in reply to "Wasn't Alabama offering free tuition to OOS kids with a 4.0 or better a few years back?"

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

ATLsidejack—speaking of SEC schools, I was surprised how high Florida is in most rankings now

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:39:36, in reply to "That was a while back. I’d heard second hand that they’d scaled that back a lot, but IDK.*"

They were one of the schools that were significantly higher than I’d have guessed, along with BU.

Of course, flagship schools across the board are way more selective and have far higher admissions standards than they used to. I was pretty shocked at the average test scores for MD, Rutgers, etc., never mind the more prestige level schools.

Seems like Big Ten admissions standards are comparable to where the Ivy League was back when I was applying, while the top schools are pushing up against the limits of quantitative metrics like SAT scores or GPA, and are probably a lot more random in admissions decisions now. Which has probably fueled the huge increase in number of applications per kid, along with the common app making it a lot easier.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

IMHO the rise of the superscore and grade inflation makes it impossible to compare our era to now

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:42:40, in reply to "ATLsidejack—speaking of SEC schools, I was surprised how high Florida is in most rankings now"

kids are taking SAT/ACT five and six times.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Plus it recentered in the late 90’s which adds 80-100 points

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:45:05, in reply to "IMHO the rise of the superscore and grade inflation makes it impossible to compare our era to now"

Sprout had a mildly disappointing SAT score his first time so he retook it. Got the exact same score on both parts. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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kids are taking SAT/ACT five and six times.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

mini bombed the SAT but did very well on the ACT especially with the superscore.

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:47:00, in reply to "Plus it recentered in the late 90’s which adds 80-100 points"

He took both twice. I think it’s manifestly unfair that wealthier kids are taking it more than 3 times. I think you should have to report how many bites you took of the apple. Even if you can still superscore.

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Sprout had a mildly disappointing SAT score his first time so he retook it. Got the exact same score on both parts. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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kids are taking SAT/ACT five and six times.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

Georgetown requires you to submit all your test scores. MD might, too.

Posted by DT <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=DT' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 16:53:51, in reply to "mini bombed the SAT but did very well on the ACT especially with the superscore."

I know it was one of the other places we had looked at. That seems like a good policy to me.

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Sprout had a mildly disappointing SAT score his first time so he retook it. Got the exact same score on both parts. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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kids are taking SAT/ACT five and six times.

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To try to bolster their academic reputation? Would Auburn be doing something similar?

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

Illinois too but they then superscore you independently*

Posted by ATL <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ATL' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 17:18:35, in reply to "Georgetown requires you to submit all your test scores. MD might, too."

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I know it was one of the other places we had looked at. That seems like a good policy to me.

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Sprout had a mildly disappointing SAT score his first time so he retook it. Got the exact same score on both parts. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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kids are taking SAT/ACT five and six times.

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how do I know this? Because there's absolutely no way the median admitted Auburn out of state student has a 4.25/4.00 GPA. Especially when correlated to that ACT score. Even the early action kids.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

2 years ago, Diglet1 received $30K in scholarship from Alabama. Not sure if

Posted by OWWDig <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=OWWDig' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 13:50:22, in reply to "Wasn't Alabama offering free tuition to OOS kids with a 4.0 or better a few years back?"

they were giving out massive amounts of money last year too or this year.

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Don't know. Will have to see. Ga Tech would be free for in state kids who can get in

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but the getting in is the tough part.

“We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of.” - Republican voter, Dec. 2024.

I’m a ramblin’ wreck from Georgia Tech

Posted by Sounder <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Sounder' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 25, 2025, 13:50:04, in reply to "Don't know. Will have to see. Ga Tech would be free for in state kids who can get in "

And a hell of an engineer!

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but the getting in is the tough part.

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