Illini Basketball vs. Minnesota Pre-game and Game Thread (Sat 11am CST on BTN)
Posted by JFG Cade Tyson is their guard that leads them in minutes played and scoring average at 21.1 a game. Ok Kylan KILL HIM. They have a couple other guys that average in the low teens in scoring.
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Up to #11 in AP*
Posted by OB25
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Unbeaten Miami at #25! *
Posted by jdl
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With 5 more votes than #26 Wisconsin.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Who is more likely to play in the NBA - Tomi or Z?
Posted by Herman Blume
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Not sure there is a single thing Tomi does better than Z at this point, other than passing
Posted by Blazer
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Simple. Big Z. He's just a much better athlete.
Posted by illinilosch
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Bulls could use Big Z.*
Posted by Toonces
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Agree it’s Z. Tomi’s lack of foot speed will be hard to overcome
Posted by CWR10
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Back to 6th on KP*
Posted by assassin
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7th in NET, 1 spot behind UNL *
Posted by jdl
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Blowout win for Duke got them from #6 to #3.*
Posted by OB25
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Same on t-rank*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Apparently Drej was hurt in the game
Posted by ATL
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Kinda looked like maybe a cramp at the time*
Posted by Taz Being an Illini fan is a goddamn curse.*
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Seems to be moving around OK
Posted by jdl Everybody has a part when climbing to the top. pic.twitter.com/9an2qFxem4
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I do love Hank Hill calling into every DWS post game*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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I like the nod to trans rights by the guy with the best girl Bill *
Posted by ATL
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Hah. Yep*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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Stopped at Oskee's with his buddy Bill to slam a couple of Alamo beers!*
Posted by WhitmansFolly
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To best rim protector discussion below. Z has a 14.8% block rate. Next highest in kenpom era is
Posted by gvibes
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I’m ready to try the two towers lineup. We have to find a way to get him more than 16 mpg*
Posted by meanjeans
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Funny, I was literally about to post this
Posted by Blazer
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It’s certainly not likely, but I can still see where a world where we look up 3 years from now…
Posted by OB25
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But it's not this world, right? It's like a bizarro world with a vastly different
Posted by larue33
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But my official answer is 2. Wagler the obvious one, and Z gets drafted this year*
Posted by OB25
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Imagine of they’d have let Kofi play by the Edey rules *
Posted by ATL
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Informal pole: how many guys on this roster do you think will play 50+ career NBA games?*
Posted by OB25
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Just for a little context
Posted by Blazer
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nm*
Posted by Blazer
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Oh Arch also played 44 games (RIP)*
Posted by Blazer
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Man. That Frankie number*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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One*
Posted by gvibes
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I would like to thank Medvedev for inexplicably ever getting out of their zone defense.*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Also, even for teams that never play zone, they should play zone against us. We had no clue.*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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I’m in the minority here but I honestly thought we didn’t do bad other than one ~4 min stretch
Posted by OB25 I think Medved knew it wasn’t going to work for another 20 minutes.
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Stagnant, terrible shot quality, no ball movement, turnovers on the baseline passes.
Posted by Carl Spackler Maybe the most disappointing thing was our seniors in Boswell and Stojakovic were maybe the biggest perpetrators. Stojakovic in particular had no ideas. Also, when we're one of the best offenses in the countries, even if you did say we looked OK against it, OK is a far cry from our normal performance.
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Yeah, combo of poor shooting in the first half and some farts at the rim
Posted by Blazer
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We should destroy zones
Posted by jdl
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For sure. I do think we got better in the 2nd half. Must more intentionality*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Seriously*
Posted by Blazer
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Wildly impressed with Minnesota. That’s my takeaway*
Posted by GMAW
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They’re like 1.5 guys short of a full team that could be pretty dang good*
Posted by John Coctostan
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IIRC they have 2 guys out who were expected in their rotation *
Posted by jdl
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ooooo
Posted by Blazer
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Thought of you when I posted this!*
Posted by GMAW
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*fgs*
Posted by Blazer
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Forgot about this game. Why did Stojakovic play so little? Flu?*
Posted by gvibes
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Was at my twins' basketball game. Twin 1 was about 4/12 shooting. 0 passes. My man*
Posted by gvibes
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He wasn’t very good today*
Posted by illini21
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Kinda got lost on D a little bit but also had trouble breaking down the zone *
Posted by ATL
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Yeah, zone is his kryptonite--defense prevents drives to the rim and he is a horrific shooter*
Posted by Blazer
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I personally enjoyed the Petrovic change up *
Posted by ATL
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Was nice to see him do something positive*
Posted by Blazer
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dropped to 7 on kp *
Posted by jdl
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ORtg up again from 128.5 to 128.6. Defense was not as good today.*
Posted by Orangeillini
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We’ve won two second halves in a row! Extend Underwood!*
Posted by biclops
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Blouses. Hope Andrej is ok.*
Posted by Toonces
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Good win. Not pretty but got it. *
Posted by harb
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speaking of which, and I intend no offense
Posted by bbonb
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Man I still do a double take every time Kevin Kruger is on the screen*
Posted by Herman Blume
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Co-that*
Posted by Jackie
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On the dot
Posted by OB25
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That went about how I thought it would. Glad we don’t have to go to the Barn*
Posted by Blazer
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MN finally has a coach
Posted by jdl
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Good win.*
Posted by bjl63
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Yep. Minny isn't super talented but they're big, experienced, disciplined and well coached. *
Posted by Tuscy
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That and we were a half step slow all game. Good to win on an off day*
Posted by bjl63
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I mean that's way worse than the one they called on Kykan but glad they let it go *
Posted by jdl
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Winning the GMAW Memorial January Doldrums Game (TM) is fun. We should do it more*
Posted by John Coctostan
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I’m not dead yet!*
Posted by GMAW
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Don’t you dare*
Posted by John Coctostan
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lol*
Posted by Blazer
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Free throw capital of America
Posted by timmer
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*exhales*
Posted by jdl
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So shifty*
Posted by Blazer
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Wagler really wants the ball in his hands when it matters*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Shocked that wasn’t called on Wagler.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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there was nothing there
Posted by apusikam
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Wagler had wat looked like a hook and a slight pull. I agree it was just a common foul,
Posted by voiceofreason
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everything's a hook and hold now*
Posted by apusikam
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In football, it would be called a "point of emphasis" for the refs coming into the season. :-(
Posted by osklister
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Except I haven't seen it called in any other game anywhere for years
Posted by Blazer
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Keaton is a friggin H&H magnet *
Posted by jdl
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Oh my god no*
Posted by OB25
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Oh no not again *
Posted by jdl
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Incredibly deep sigh*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Because wagler is going to get another one*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Sweet meltdown guys*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Went back to sleep.*
Posted by bjl63
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What the fuck are we doing this last minute? It’s not over, guys.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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won’t someone please think of the metrics *
Posted by biclops
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our inbounds plays (?) are beyond bad.*
Posted by Ari Gold
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WTF is this*
Posted by OB25
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Hey guys, game is not over*
Posted by Blazer
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Holy shit, DON"T DO THAT*
Posted by jdl
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Wtf*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Love that the new guy just has to wear the orange jump suit every game*
Posted by OB25
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Oh, seeing that win streak against scUM is sweet *
Posted by jdl
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That second shot by Tomi was phenomenally dumb. Use your head big guy*
Posted by Blazer
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played with our food most of this game
Posted by apusikam
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lol, brutal, non-aggressive sequence for Tomi there.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Cmon Tomi. Time and score*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Sure, stay in that zone down 12 *
Posted by jdl
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Fuck it’s let cover too*
Posted by OB25
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Not helping, Tomi*
Posted by OB25
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Our clock operator is not having a good year*
Posted by Herman Blume
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How is that a change of possession?*
Posted by OB25
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The production and administration of this game has been amazingly bad*
Posted by John Coctostan
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We’re all demoralized with not being able to extend and keep the lead. But imagine being on the
Posted by John Coctostan
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I often have to remind myself of what the Groce years were like
Posted by Blazer
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We’ve definitely had a good whistle a few times this season. Today is not one of those days*
Posted by OB25
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Can someone teach the guys getting paid to call this game what a travel is? My lord.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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And here I thought no Scriotto and DJ was a good sign.*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Let's get Z back in the game*
Posted by GrandmotherPearlsJam
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travel?*
Posted by Ari Gold
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80% FT shooter misses front end, 18% three pt shooter hits. What a terrible swing*
Posted by Blazer
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Had to restrain myself from throwing the remote after that sequence. This game has been torture*
Posted by OB25
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Thought we had woken up. Guess not*
Posted by bjl63
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more missed front ends.*
Posted by Ari Gold
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We’ve been 6/6 on bonus 1–and-1 FTs several games in a row*
Posted by Blazer
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Jinxed. *
Posted by Tuscy
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There’s a kill shot*8
Posted by John Coctostan
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Maybe that was? *
Posted by jdl
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And then a turd sandwich*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Is Z the best rim protector we’ve ever had?*
Posted by OB25
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Certainly this century
Posted by Blazer
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Nana*
Posted by ilinni11
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Probably Derek Holcombe *
Posted by jdl
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Yes and not even close *
Posted by jdl
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Agree. And as mentioned, it’s not just the blocks. Him being in the paint prevents like 6 FGA a game
Posted by John Coctostan
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And he’s really improved at not auto-jumping at pump fakes since the beginning of the year*
Posted by Blazer
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Great story to sell to portal guys
Posted by jdl
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Antigua is a heck of a big man coach*
Posted by gvibes
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Minnesota runs really really good offense
Posted by Blazer
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I’m very impressed. Vegas hasn’t caught up yet.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Lob it!*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Ohh he gonna lob it!*
Posted by Ron McDon
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ooo
Posted by jdl
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I meant the one to z, but that one was fun too. Think we need to do that more vs zone. We’re huge
Posted by John Coctostan
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Early on I worried Mirk as a stretch 4 wasn’t gonna happen. But he’s really shot it well*
Posted by OB25
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He's really good when he shoots it quickly
Posted by jdl
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Like that one, no clean catch and a miss *
Posted by jdl
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Cmon. D up and rebound*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Ok, time to close*
Posted by Blazer
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Balkan Bros *
Posted by jdl
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Still sleepy*
Posted by bjl63
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You know what would be nice? Their short bench catching up to them*
Posted by biclops
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2 stops and 2 baskets. All we need really*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Or give up a layup. Cool cool cool*
Posted by John Coctostan
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I was just early*
Posted by John Coctostan
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That Tyson kid is talented*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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Had no idea he’s white. He’s bouncy*
Posted by Blazer
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He’s like a rich man’s hummer. I’d never really heard of him. Seems just not quite good enough
Posted by John Coctostan
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Solid take*
Posted by Blazer
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Not about a bad effort now, Minnesota is just dialed in offensively. Not going away*
Posted by OB25
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Where's andrej?*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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Dog house for his D I’m guessing*
Posted by Drippy
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Yep, he has been horrific on D whenever out there today.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Been bad on defense and actively hurts us if they run zone*
Posted by Blazer
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Z’s mere presence prevents more shot attempts than he even blocks*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Hccchhhanging around, hhccchhhhaning around
Posted by Blazer
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Man just need to hit one of these threes to create separation. Just can’t do it*
Posted by OB25
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That Z one looked pure, though it was going in*
Posted by Blazer
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I hate that rule. Just call the foul and move on*
Posted by LeatherneckIllini
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so dumb even when it favors the good guys*
Posted by apusikam
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Is this gonna be on us?*
Posted by OB25
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Wait I was looking at Mirk. There might be 2 happening on the same play*
Posted by OB25
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His wasn’t a hook and hold. But probably a foul on him actually*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Z is the one I saw *
Posted by jdl
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Mirk looked like he was borderline doing it to the guy he was tied up with*
Posted by OB25
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omg another hook and hold*
Posted by Blazer
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HOOK AND HOLD *
Posted by jdl
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That is a hook and hold*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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I mean it sucks, but that’s clearly a hook and hold considering the precedent set*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Ok actually that one pretty clearly was a bad one. That’s what the rule is for*
Posted by John Coctostan
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hook & hold time!*
Posted by biclops
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Ball should go to tomi or mirk at high post at least one a possession. Make them move*
Posted by John Coctostan
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This might be the worst broadcast I’ve ever seen. *
Posted by illini
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Call that both ways you hacks*
Posted by OB25
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Same ref Brad yelled at. That was nothing more than a fuck you coach call*
Posted by Ron McDon
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The defensive stuff is just effort and focus, very frustrating*
Posted by Blazer
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Even our babies didn’t come to play today.
Posted by OB25
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Wagler/boz/stoja seem like a trio that could be lethal vs a zone. All good at finding soft
Posted by John Coctostan
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Ok sigh of relief there. Keep that energy out of half*
Posted by OB25
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Vegas still expecting us to win by 10. Let’s go ahead and do that*
Posted by OB25
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Fantastic idea!*
Posted by OWWDig
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0-0 at half. Get shit fixed Brad*
Posted by WhitmansFolly
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this*
Posted by Ron McDon
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Poor shooting day, that’s all it is. It will turn around second half
Posted by Blazer
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Only concerning thing is we are tied despite holding Tyson to 4 points.
Posted by OB25
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He’s 34% from 3 on the year, so of course he goes 5/9
Posted by Blazer
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Agree. Gophers are pluckier than I thought. Medved is gonna be a problem*
Posted by GMAW
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The last 2 hiring cycles in the BIG has been pretty good for coaches. Except diebler*
Posted by John Coctostan
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I hated him as a player but Settles is pretty good on the mic*
Posted by bjl63
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I spy Illinois basketball royalty behind the table!*
Posted by Jackie
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Didn't see but assume it's Walkon? *
Posted by Tuscy
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*points and fingers* *
Posted by Jackie
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How did we lose 3 seconds on the shot clock without touching the ball?*
Posted by OB25
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I don't think they stopped the game to review immediately *
Posted by jdl
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I though there was way more time on game clock too.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Big ten refs. That's how
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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There’s no reason for this to take this long. It’s pretty easy to figure out the time*
Posted by OB25
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Christ, it shouldn't take this long to review the damn clock. Get on with it
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Very smart by Brad here.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Took their best punch and might even have a half time lead.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Petrovic giving great effort on D*
Posted by OB25
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petrovich has been a difference maker here *
Posted by ATL
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5/21. Some bad but lots of open looks*
Posted by John Coctostan
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There’s the Z fall travel for the day. *
Posted by illini
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Z needs to stop falling down*
Posted by bjl63
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USC last year redux
Posted by ab75
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I wonder if 11am games are statistically harder for home teams than road*
Posted by John Coctostan
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It’s the Tomi disappearance after a great game for me*
Posted by opossum jenkins
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We have this game every year
Posted by GMAW
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Shit*
Posted by Tooldresser
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donuts
Posted by Blazer
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Wow*
Posted by ab75
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Gee thanks for reminding me of all that. Woof*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Z needs to stay in the game. His D plus the lob threat make him very valuable*
Posted by John Coctostan
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I like the twin towers look against their zone.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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We have no concept how to attach an even-front zone...
Posted by Tuscy
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The lack of cutting/flashing boggles the mind. So much standing in small areas*
Posted by John Coctostan
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I thought we did pretty well for the first 5 minutes or so, but then it got worse*
Posted by OB25
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There are also very effective set plays against a 2-3. Izzo's got a book of them.
Posted by Tuscy
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I think we’ll come out better at half but can’t dig too deep of a hole.
Posted by OB25
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Sleepy January game = confirmed*
Posted by bjl63
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The stuff nightmares are made of. Really bad energy all around*
Posted by OWWDig
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We still struggle with anything resembling athleticism and quickness. And Mirk
Posted by voiceofreason
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Delete.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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does tyler have a zone offense?*
Posted by Ari Gold
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You are the absolute worst*
Posted by Blazer
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Yes, stand around well behind the 3 point line and eventually take an ill-advised 3
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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Ha*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Well this sucks *
Posted by biclops
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Basically 0 movement against the zone. Lost all over on D. Not good*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Reminding me of last year's usc game*
Posted by ISeeDeadHawkeyes
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This is ass*
Posted by Ron McDon
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4 over his season average already!*
Posted by Ari Gold
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Ben has a weird backward lean on his 3 attempts. They are all hitting front iron. Fix it, coaches.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Ok this is starting to get me pissed off*
Posted by OB25
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Can someone take Ben's green light away please*
Posted by GrandmotherPearlsJam
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Dammit Ben *
Posted by ATL
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Felt like we were on the verge of taking control, Ben just can’t miss both of those wide open 3’s*
Posted by OB25
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evergreen*
Posted by Phytynlini
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He hasn’t even been close. Wild*
Posted by John Coctostan
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narrator.*
Posted by Ari Gold
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crocker-johnson is 5-7; 4-6!*
Posted by Ari Gold
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JFC, BTN.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Even for them this is some D team amateur hour crap
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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I’ve never seen anything like it on a real network. This is public access level.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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I do enjoy that they have to change the score in one point increments.
Posted by ATL
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Ha, I didn’t even notice that.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Oh ben*
Posted by John Coctostan
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momentum 3 out front shoulda told ya*
Posted by Ron McDon
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amazing. he has to lead the world in those.*
Posted by Ari Gold
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Can Wagler dunk? Even if not fouled, he would have front ironed that.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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That kid had anger in his eyes on that foul. *
Posted by illini
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Wagler sick of hearing the draft narrative that he has 0 dunks this season.*
Posted by OB25
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That effort won’t help. He was nowhere close to dunking that.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Hmm I’d have to watch again, looked like he was gonna hammer it if not fouled*
Posted by OB25
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He was. The early body contact stopped his momentum up*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Yeah, upon rewatching, I missed the body contact. Love the effort. Reminds me of when Ayo was
Posted by voiceofreason
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Think Z is gonna have to keep the mask all season regardless of healing*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Ben Humrichous PG *
Posted by jdl
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Mirk is so damn slow.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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Coleman would be proud of some of these deep ones Wagler is taking*
Posted by HeatMizer
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Fix the score, btn
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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BTN having real problems crediting the correct team for the baskets *
Posted by jdl
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Having it wrong for like 5 mins. Pathetic*
Posted by John Coctostan
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Yep. Total amateur hour.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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I’d play that zone all game if i were them. We just don’t move well against them*
Posted by John Coctostan
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The insane heaters by random guys are so annoying.*
Posted by OB25
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This has to be more widespread than we think.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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He did score 20 last game. And does have 3 other games of 17+. Not exactly a scrub*
Posted by John Coctostan
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At 11, averaging 13*
Posted by bjl63
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I’m so sick of incompetent officiating in the B1G.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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I guess shoving is now legal*
Posted by bjl63
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Should probably guard that guy*
Posted by John Coctostan
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JFC stop with the "Wagler's only 2 offers" tidbit
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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and it appears crocker-johnson will be the one to have his career high today?*
Posted by Ari Gold
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Great candidate for our sleepy January home game*
Posted by bjl63
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Great job by Brad recognizing it early.*
Posted by voiceofreason
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lol at this start on both ends.*
Posted by Ari Gold
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Illini -16.5.
Posted by JFG
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Check me if I'm wrong jfg, but if we beat the golfers they'll lock us up and throw away the key*
Posted by Phytynlini
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THAT’S MY LINE!*
Posted by Carl Spackler
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Alright, let's do the same thing but with gophers.
Posted by JFG
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HS recruiting still a thing? Another 3* in-state junior just committed
Posted by RVA
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Might give us the inside track to his 4 star teammate.
Posted by illinilosch
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6'5 flame thrower. perfect. *
Posted by assassin
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But does he have Jake Davis’ hair?*
Posted by DocWalk20
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Not been to a game in a while. I assume Papa Dels will be a zoo after game? Think I can get into
Posted by LovetheChief
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I took my nephew to Papa Del's right after the USC FB game w/o any wait
Posted by IlliniSax05 MAJOR UPDATE: "Maybe you're not such a bad egg, Lisle-y"
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If it’s a blowout and you leave the game early, you’ll be ok at either.
Posted by JFG
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TY. Assuming I want to be back in ptown for varsity evening games and don’t want to wait in line,
Posted by LovetheChief
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If you haven’t tried Smith Burger Company in downtown Champaign, I’d highly recommend that.
Posted by JFG
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Awesome. Thanks.*
Posted by LovetheChief
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With students gone, papa dels may not be awful *
Posted by OWWDig
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Tidbits from Brad's Friday press conference:
Posted by JFG
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First, yes some people (tend to be lanky athletic) have some joint laxity.
Posted by ibdoc
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Thanks. But I'm still confused. Is Keaton ok or not?*
Posted by Blazer
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I'm thinking if it was serious Brad wouldn't have mentioned it
Posted by jdl
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Listened to the presser on the way home and am somehow even more confused
Posted by Blazer
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Or even Ty. Keaton is fine. Nothing to see here.*
Posted by DocWalk20
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(not asking you, just generally shouting at the Universe)*
Posted by Blazer
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Bit of a pet peeve is that flu/influenza is not vomiting and diarrhea
Posted by ibdoc
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Hey now, don't kink shame.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Fist bump….
Posted by DocWalk20
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Opening this post was a little jarring*
Posted by illini21
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I kinda went over the top...lol. Sorry. All the news that's fit to print.*
Posted by JFG
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Students should mostly be back on campus, no? IIRC classes always started on the Tues after MLK.*
Posted by Warrin'_Illini
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Dorms won’t open until Sunday though
Posted by assassin
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Unless something has changed, this still wont be an Orange Krush game.
Posted by OB25
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MrsAimless is coming with us - her first game in 30 years
Posted by aimlessillini
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She last went when she was 5!
Posted by ibdoc
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Let’s go, Mrs. Aimless!!!!*
Posted by memyselfandillini
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George Shapland Family Drive
Posted by jdl
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that's quite the Illini legacy*
Posted by assassin
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The bottom third of the Big Ten is really bad this year.
Posted by OB25
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And to that point, I wish we were getting Oregon now instead of the last week of the season.
Posted by OB25
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BTA.*
Posted by uofi1998
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I don't know how they can keep up with us scoring. they're not dynamic. also, they're not
Posted by John Coctostan
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Hate to nitpick that great work but the USC loss was at the Barn*
Posted by Mrap24
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Fair. adjusted.*
Posted by JFG
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So was the Wisconsin loss*
Posted by UIHuskie
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Minnesota lost to Missouri by 23. We’ll win comfortably*
Posted by GMAW
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I'm in no way concerned, but I do think Minnesota is sneaky competent*
Posted by Blazer
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