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Ishbia purchases 47-acre rail yard in the South Loop

Posted by AintHatin <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=AintHatin' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 8:43:16

across the river from the 78. possible new white sox stadium district site

crain’s ($$$)

If the Sox move, the Bears should take over the Cell. Plenty of parking and transportation.*

Posted by Toonces <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Toonces' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 13:48:52, in reply to "Ishbia purchases 47-acre rail yard in the South Loop"

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across the river from the 78. possible new white sox stadium district site

crain’s ($$$)

I’m ugly.

Has this ever been considered?*

Posted by TarheelIllini <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=TarheelIllini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 14:26:42, in reply to "If the Sox move, the Bears should take over the Cell. Plenty of parking and transportation.*"

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across the river from the 78. possible new white sox stadium district site

crain’s ($$$)

Recrudescence

Gonna say about a million times. Reinsdorf didn't want a dual purpose stadium at all.

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 16:47:16, in reply to "Has this ever been considered?*"

Pretty sure they just managed to fit in a football field without knocking out seats... but I won't swear to that.

Anyway, when it was first built Reinsdorf was happy that there wasn't going to be football.

Well he’s gonna be dead soon.*

Posted by SurfTheBoneyard <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=SurfTheBoneyard' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 10:01:08, in reply to "Gonna say about a million times. Reinsdorf didn't want a dual purpose stadium at all."

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Pretty sure they just managed to fit in a football field without knocking out seats... but I won't swear to that.

Anyway, when it was first built Reinsdorf was happy that there wasn't going to be football.

Sky Marshal of the Luftwaffle

“Surf is just a national treasure.” — Jackie

Well, he's got the Sox sale scheduled to go until he's 98. So yeah: anytime after that....

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 10:15:10, in reply to "Well he’s gonna be dead soon.*"

In theory, it's not the worst idea I've heard.*

Posted by MojoJojo <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MojoJojo' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 14:31:20, in reply to "Has this ever been considered?*"

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across the river from the 78. possible new white sox stadium district site

crain’s ($$$)

You would completely crater the building and start over

Posted by ijustkrushalot <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ijustkrushalot' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 14:40:30, in reply to "In theory, it's not the worst idea I've heard.*"

but, yeah... not the absolute worst idea

the Rate is owned and operated by the state. that's a big hurdle*

Posted by Gene Parmesan <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Gene+Parmesan' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 10:02:14, in reply to "You would completely crater the building and start over"

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but, yeah... not the absolute worst idea

Better than Hammond.*

Posted by MojoJojo <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=MojoJojo' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 14:40:59, in reply to "You would completely crater the building and start over"

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but, yeah... not the absolute worst idea

Great development for the city. Who needs the Bears 8 home games.*

Posted by gullit <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=gullit' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 12:48:22, in reply to "Ishbia purchases 47-acre rail yard in the South Loop"

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across the river from the 78. possible new white sox stadium district site

crain’s ($$$)

Having an owner with money is a plus in these situations.

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 10:30:39, in reply to "Ishbia purchases 47-acre rail yard in the South Loop"

Good for them. Get it done.

Jerry's got the cash... now spending it?? Different story.

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 12:35:02, in reply to "Having an owner with money is a plus in these situations."

Hey, I'm happy that the new guy's stadium isn't located in that Nashville neighborhood. Or Charlotte for that matter. Pretty sure MLB would approve in a heartbeat.

JMHO.

Ishbia probably has double Jerry’s net worth*

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 12:41:45, in reply to "Jerry's got the cash... now spending it?? Different story. "

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Hey, I'm happy that the new guy's stadium isn't located in that Nashville neighborhood. Or Charlotte for that matter. Pretty sure MLB would approve in a heartbeat.

JMHO.

Probably true. New guy $4 billion, Jerry $2 billion?

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 14:22:01, in reply to "Ishbia probably has double Jerry’s net worth*"

I can't say Jerry is hurting for bucks. Hard to get an accurate ranking, but he's at least among the top 2/3 of owners according to most speculation on the internet.

Also of note: Jerry is 90 years old as of today (and according to the contract of sale, apparently the earliest he would sell a portion to Ishibia would be 2029; then a five-year gradual ownership change). Justin Ishibia is 48 today.

In the year 2034, Reinsdorf will be 98.

Jerry is definitely very wealthy

Posted by CanHartlebHireSnider <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=CanHartlebHireSnider' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 14:28:55, in reply to "Probably true. New guy $4 billion, Jerry $2 billion?"

But much of his wealth is probably tied up in owning the Sox and Bulls and not actual cash. He obviously has other real estate ventures.

Likewise Ishbia probably has lots of his wealth tied up in other ventures but dudes buying baseball teams today tend to be in a different stratosphere than the guys that purchased them 40+ years ago.

I would guess that Ishbia has significantly more ability to plop down the cash for this site and build on it than Jerry does.

Made me think: privately-owned MLB stadiums??

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 8:39:34, in reply to "Jerry is definitely very wealthy"

Here's what AI tells me:

-San Fran
-Dodger Stadium
-Atlanta
-Fenway
-Wrigley

Also mentions Anaheim: although the land is publicly owned, it falls into a unique category of not being managed by a public authority, and

Baltimore: while the state owns it, the team has historically held a high level of control.

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...I would guess that Ishbia has significantly more ability to plop down the cash for this site and build on it than Jerry does.

St. Louis*

Posted by cpsteine <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=cpsteine' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 10:44:32, in reply to "Made me think: privately-owned MLB stadiums??"

I'll take your word for it over the AI response.

Posted by osklister <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=osklister' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 11:35:24, in reply to "St. Louis*"

Don't know what I asked Google earlier, but here's what it says right now. (FWLIW, seems to attribute it to Reddit sources.)

Privately owned MLB stadiums are rare, as most are publicly owned or heavily subsidized. Notable examples of privately owned or financed stadiums include Oracle Park (San Francisco Giants), Dodger Stadium (Los Angeles Dodgers), and Wrigley Field (Chicago Cubs). Oracle Park was the first privately financed ballpark since Dodger Stadium.

Oracle Park (San Francisco Giants): Privately financed and opened in 2000.
Dodger Stadium (Los Angeles Dodgers): Built privately by Walter O'Malley in 1962.
Wrigley Field (Chicago Cubs): Privately owned by the team.
Future A's Ballpark (Las Vegas): Planned as a privately financed project.

While some teams own their stadiums, many still benefit from public infrastructure improvements, making the definition of "private" sometimes complex.

that's a pretty perfect view of the skyline for a NE facing ballpark.

Posted by ijustkrushalot <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ijustkrushalot' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 8:50:44, in reply to "Ishbia purchases 47-acre rail yard in the South Loop"

if the Bears wind up in AH or a superfund site in Indiana, a new venue (maybe with a roof?) would be pretty well situated for the city?

The Sox will inexplicably build it facing the other way, like they did before*

Posted by IlliniOllie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniOllie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 9:09:21, in reply to "that's a pretty perfect view of the skyline for a NE facing ballpark."

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if the Bears wind up in AH or a superfund site in Indiana, a new venue (maybe with a roof?) would be pretty well situated for the city?

The current park is over 4 miles from downtown

Posted by bjl63 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=bjl63' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 11:26:24, in reply to "The Sox will inexplicably build it facing the other way, like they did before*"

the views would not have been that great

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if the Bears wind up in AH or a superfund site in Indiana, a new venue (maybe with a roof?) would be pretty well situated for the city?

here's how the existing park would fit on the site, a few thoughts:

Posted by ijustkrushalot <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ijustkrushalot' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 11:12:21, in reply to "The Sox will inexplicably build it facing the other way, like they did before*"

- fitting a baseball field there shouldn't be an issue.

- I'm curious what impact the rail yard/lines will have on the project. I assume that at a minimum you'd have to maintain the 9 or so tracks that go through the site as-is. You're going to have to cantelever the structure over a pretty wide span.

- because of the above, the FIELD level will have to be several feet above the adjacent street grade (taking into account the dugouts, and several feet of depth for a concrete floor, drainage system and dirt for a field)... so your concourse level will likely be be ABOVE that... a lot of stadiums like to have the seating bowl sunk at least partially into the ground... if you're wanting to have field level club seating then your concourse level for most of the peons attending games will be a couple of floors above ground. Not a deal breaker but a design challenge.

towards the projects too!*

Posted by Ari Gold <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Ari+Gold' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 10:38:48, in reply to "The Sox will inexplicably build it facing the other way, like they did before*"

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if the Bears wind up in AH or a superfund site in Indiana, a new venue (maybe with a roof?) would be pretty well situated for the city?

*sigh* doing all the things the bears should have done*

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 8:44:34, in reply to "Ishbia purchases 47-acre rail yard in the South Loop"

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across the river from the 78. possible new white sox stadium district site

crain’s ($$$)

"the alchemy of the tartar sauce and cheese with the fish combined with the buttery steamed bun is so good." - Sounder re: a Filet O Fish

gotta be a monumental cost to build there

Posted by ijustkrushalot <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ijustkrushalot' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 8:51:35, in reply to "*sigh* doing all the things the bears should have done*"

I know there are a lot of buildings built over the rail lines already, but yikes.

i'm thinking purely from the perspective of "if i were a billionaire and owned the bears"

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 8:57:10, in reply to "gotta be a monumental cost to build there"

stadium would have been on the 78 with an entertainment district over the rail yards on the other side.

or i would have bought half of goose island and done it there.

"the alchemy of the tartar sauce and cheese with the fish combined with the buttery steamed bun is so good." - Sounder re: a Filet O Fish

I always thought Goose Island would have been a good location for the Bears

Posted by ijustkrushalot <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=ijustkrushalot' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 9:00:19, in reply to "i'm thinking purely from the perspective of "if i were a billionaire and owned the bears""

without knowing a ton, that seems about the only place in the city limits that would work,

given what these damn things are, and the limited dates of NFL stadium use, I actually think AH is fine. the other sports I think are much more important to be in town

it would need some infrastructure help, but i had rough ideas

Posted by VIV <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=VIV' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 10:27:59, in reply to "I always thought Goose Island would have been a good location for the Bears"

looking at the half of the island south of division as the northern end already has Mars Food's worldwide HQ.

i'd also lobby hard for a metra stop at ogden and building a bridge for ogden onto the island for another ingress/egress.

put the dome itself roughly centered at the current streets of hickory and bliss, oriented SE/NW with a glass wall facing the skyline.

build your restaurants, hotels, parking structures, tailgating lawn, and park areas around that.

5 minute walk from metra. 10 minute walk from the blue line at chicago. 15 minute walk from the red.

kennedy access at both north and division would be rough. there's a northbound augusta exit you could modify and add a flyover eastbound on augusta to link up with the proposed ogden bridge extension, possibly.

"the alchemy of the tartar sauce and cheese with the fish combined with the buttery steamed bun is so good." - Sounder re: a Filet O Fish

It's not easy to get to, but the former US Steel South Works is huge and right on the lake

Posted by IlliniOllie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniOllie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 9:17:01, in reply to "I always thought Goose Island would have been a good location for the Bears"

it seems surprising that there isn't more that's been done with that site.

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Well, it's also next to a lot of dangerous neighborhoods and it's also being developed

Posted by Taz <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Taz' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 19, 2026, 9:53:46, in reply to "It's not easy to get to, but the former US Steel South Works is huge and right on the lake"

Into the "
Illinois Quantum and Microelectronics Park, a quantum computing campus, while parts of the original site have been transformed into public spaces like Steelworkers Park,"

According to Google

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it seems surprising that there isn't more that's been done with that site.

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Sometimes you just need to yeet a bobcat *

Being an Illini fan is a goddamn curse.*

Close enough to reach your arm out your car window and touch Indiana.*

Posted by Warrin'_Illini $<iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=Warrin\'_Illini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'>$ on March 18, 2026, 9:25:56, in reply to "It's not easy to get to, but the former US Steel South Works is huge and right on the lake"

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it seems surprising that there isn't more that's been done with that site.

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You cannot lose games in the NFL and still win.

Add in the 50% build-in-cook-county unofficial tax while you’re at it *

Posted by uofi1998 <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=uofi1998' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 8:54:20, in reply to "gotta be a monumental cost to build there"

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I know there are a lot of buildings built over the rail lines already, but yikes.

Are you going to bark all day, little doggie? Or are you going to bite?

and the inevitable lawsuits from the Friends of the Railyards*

Posted by IlliniOllie <iframe src='https://mb.boardhost.com/TheDeuce/info/user=IlliniOllie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on March 18, 2026, 9:17:59, in reply to "Add in the 50% build-in-cook-county unofficial tax while you’re at it *"

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I know there are a lot of buildings built over the rail lines already, but yikes.

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