But it will come through random chats with people explaining how great socialism is? Here's the thing Steven. I'm quite sure that you know that the method followed by members of the SPGB will never achieve socialism. But you aren't bothered because that's not the point. The point is to always be able to be smug and superior because you have the secret and everyone else is wrong. As Francis said, the SPGB is a cult, and what members get from a cult is not actually ever achieving anything in the world, but feeling good because they are the chosen ones and all the outsiders are failures. What a pathetic life you must lead.