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''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Dave on February 23, 2019, 9:31 pm Just thought that sense we were on the topic of the Spencer's, I believe this picture below may be relevant and create discussion. The necklace worn by the Countess in the below picture 'scroll down to see at 11th page' which features a square cut stone similar to the one seen as a ring on the countess in the pictures provided by Beth via Maridje. Any thoughts on the tiara? http://royaldish.com/index.php?topic=753.1395 Regards, Dave.

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by The Royal Watcher on February 24, 2019, 1:04 am, in reply to "''Countess Raine Spencer''" The convertible Pearl and Diamond Tiara was worn by the Countess during the 2000 Danish State Visit, but was usually seen as a necklace. It was sold during her lifetime, and now belongs to the Albion Art Collection, and was displayed at the V&A's 'Pearls' exhibition in 2013. On the topic of Raine, Countess Spencer's Tiaras, I have read from multiple sources that she wore the Spencer Honeysuckle Tiara a couple of times in the 80s, but haven't found any pictures!

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Maridje on February 24, 2019, 2:10 am, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" Raine Spenser - TIARE ALBION ART COLLECTION Maridje

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Dave on February 24, 2019, 2:57 am, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" Thanks for these close ups guys. This tiara looks simple yet immensely stunning up close. Its sad that it went to auction and no longer in private hands.I gather it may have been a personal piece owned by the countess and not entirely a Spencer legacy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Raine Spenser - TIARE ALBION ART COLLECTION

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by MarcA on February 24, 2019, 6:31 am, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" I prefer as a necklace rather than a tiara. Before Raine married Earl Spencer she was the Countess of Dartmouth so it could be Dartmouth piece she kept. If you look though the pictures on her obituary you can see she was a woman who loved her jewels. You can also see what I presume was the, or one of perhaps, Dartmouth tiara I presume. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/10/21/raine-countess-spencer--obituary/ I wonder if she attended the coronation? Her mother who was very flamboyant had quite a collection of jewels to match her personality. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU736AU737&biw=1440&bih=798&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=LblxXMeFN8X39QPQ0YeoAg&q=barbara+cartland&oq=barbara&gs_l=img.1.3.0l3j0i67j0l6.407099.409077..411274...0.0..1.178.1140.0j7......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.R_oS5dcnjDU#imgrc=4bc2K9yQ1qXcqM: Previous Message Thanks for these close ups guys. This tiara looks simple yet immensely stunning up close. Its sad that it went to auction and no longer in private hands.I gather it may have been a personal piece owned by the countess and not entirely a Spencer legacy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Raine Spenser - TIARE ALBION ART COLLECTION

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Dave on February 24, 2019, 10:08 am, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" Thanks MarcA for bringing in the Countess's mother Barbara Cartland. I always wondered about her jewels which I do tend to feel that they could have been costume jewels. Were they auctioned after her death? Regards, Dave. Previous Message I prefer as a necklace rather than a tiara. Before Raine married Earl Spencer she was the Countess of Dartmouth so it could be Dartmouth piece she kept. If you look though the pictures on her obituary you can see she was a woman who loved her jewels. You can also see what I presume was the, or one of perhaps, Dartmouth tiara I presume. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/10/21/raine-countess-spencer--obituary/ I wonder if she attended the coronation? Her mother who was very flamboyant had quite a collection of jewels to match her personality. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU736AU737&biw=1440&bih=798&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=LblxXMeFN8X39QPQ0YeoAg&q=barbara+cartland&oq=barbara&gs_l=img.1.3.0l3j0i67j0l6.407099.409077..411274...0.0..1.178.1140.0j7......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.R_oS5dcnjDU#imgrc=4bc2K9yQ1qXcqM: Previous Message Thanks for these close ups guys. This tiara looks simple yet immensely stunning up close. Its sad that it went to auction and no longer in private hands.I gather it may have been a personal piece owned by the countess and not entirely a Spencer legacy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Raine Spenser - TIARE ALBION ART COLLECTION

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Beth on February 24, 2019, 5:55 pm, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" She made enormous money out of her novels and her second husband was reputedly very wealthy. As she had a flamboyant personality with a strong taste for the romantic, she was attracted to ornate jewels. Some items were real; some costume jewels. Some jewels were auctioned by Sotheby's in June 1995 by Barbara Cartland herself! Getty has an image https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/barbara-cartland-jewellery-on-sale-at-sothebys-news-photo/793003483 In 2001 Sotheby's held another auction, this time including costume items. https://sothebys.gcs-web.com/static-files/7d5c92b3-9a65-4045-a111-79c641120b70 Our fellow poster, The Royal Watcher, has some more information on his site http://royalwatcherblog.com/2018/11/28/christies-important-jewels-28-november-2018/

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Stefan on February 24, 2019, 5:36 pm, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" Looking through the pics of Barbara Cartland i found this one. I think she is wearing the same necklace here. https://i0.wp.com/historyradio.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Aged-55.jpg?fit=723%2C940&ssl=1 Previous Message I prefer as a necklace rather than a tiara. Before Raine married Earl Spencer she was the Countess of Dartmouth so it could be Dartmouth piece she kept. If you look though the pictures on her obituary you can see she was a woman who loved her jewels. You can also see what I presume was the, or one of perhaps, Dartmouth tiara I presume. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/10/21/raine-countess-spencer--obituary/ I wonder if she attended the coronation? Her mother who was very flamboyant had quite a collection of jewels to match her personality. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU736AU737&biw=1440&bih=798&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=LblxXMeFN8X39QPQ0YeoAg&q=barbara+cartland&oq=barbara&gs_l=img.1.3.0l3j0i67j0l6.407099.409077..411274...0.0..1.178.1140.0j7......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.R_oS5dcnjDU#imgrc=4bc2K9yQ1qXcqM: Previous Message Thanks for these close ups guys. This tiara looks simple yet immensely stunning up close. Its sad that it went to auction and no longer in private hands.I gather it may have been a personal piece owned by the countess and not entirely a Spencer legacy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Raine Spenser - TIARE ALBION ART COLLECTION

Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer'' Posted by Dave on February 26, 2019, 12:00 am, in reply to "Re: ''Countess Raine Spencer''" Thanks Stefan, It proves that the piece was from her mother Barbara Cartland. Maybe it was a wedding gift on her betrothal to Earl Spencer? Regards, Dave. Previous Message Looking through the pics of Barbara Cartland i found this one. I think she is wearing the same necklace here. https://i0.wp.com/historyradio.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Aged-55.jpg?fit=723%2C940&ssl=1 Previous Message I prefer as a necklace rather than a tiara. Before Raine married Earl Spencer she was the Countess of Dartmouth so it could be Dartmouth piece she kept. If you look though the pictures on her obituary you can see she was a woman who loved her jewels. You can also see what I presume was the, or one of perhaps, Dartmouth tiara I presume. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/10/21/raine-countess-spencer--obituary/ I wonder if she attended the coronation? Her mother who was very flamboyant had quite a collection of jewels to match her personality. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enAU736AU737&biw=1440&bih=798&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=LblxXMeFN8X39QPQ0YeoAg&q=barbara+cartland&oq=barbara&gs_l=img.1.3.0l3j0i67j0l6.407099.409077..411274...0.0..1.178.1140.0j7......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0.R_oS5dcnjDU#imgrc=4bc2K9yQ1qXcqM: Previous Message Thanks for these close ups guys. This tiara looks simple yet immensely stunning up close. Its sad that it went to auction and no longer in private hands.I gather it may have been a personal piece owned by the countess and not entirely a Spencer legacy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Raine Spenser - TIARE ALBION ART COLLECTION

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