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Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by JR76 on June 4, 2019, 5:33 pm The estate of Count Oscar Bernadotte of Wisborg who passed away a few months ago is auctioning off some items including this brooch said to have belonged to Queen Josefina of Sweden and Norway. After her death it was inherited by her son King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway, his son Prince Oscar Bernadotte, his daughter Elsa Cedergren, her brother Count Carl Bernadotte and then his son Oscar Bernadotte. Prince Oscar's wife, Princess Ebba is seen wearing the brooch on their gold wedding celebrations on March 5 1938. The brooch is made of gold and silver and 10 cm long. It has 9 ct diamonds set "à la trembleuse" and can be divided into three pieces. It was made by Court Jeweller Gustaf Möllenborg around 1860 and comes in a box together with a set of hair and brooch pins. The asking price is €14000-19000

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by Beth on June 4, 2019, 7:42 pm, in reply to "Queen Josefina's brooch" Welcome to the board JR76! What a delightful jewel you have introduced us to! It is totally new to me. Is anyone else familiar with this brooch? I have been trying to imagine which part of the jewel is en tremblant. Is it the central element? If so, I wonder if it moves like the central element in the brooch seen in this video? One little query -- are the diamonds 9cts in total or is the central diamond a 9ct stone? Again a very warm welcome!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by mauriz on June 5, 2019, 2:01 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" Thank you for posting the video, Beth! I love these insights into how a piece is constructed. I'm sure your assumption is correct and it's only the central part which is mounted en tremblant. I'd be curious to know how the lower part of the upmost section is designed, the part which is obscured by the central blossom but would be visible when the brooch was divided into its three sections.

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by JR76 on June 5, 2019, 7:29 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" Thank you so much for your lovely welcome. I realised when I was looking for the e-mail with my login that I'd forgotten to reply and thank you for your equally lovely email so I'll thank you for that too here as well. The facts in the auction catalogue doesn't specify what part of the brooch is en tremblant, but doesn't the flower itself look like it could be that one? The eminent expert on Swedish Royal jewels, Claes Mattsson, quotes the inventory of Ebba Bernadotte's estate in a post on Facebook:"Brooch flower (dog rose) gold and silver, brilliant, with a loop (to carry as a pendant)" Yes, the 9 ct is for the whole brooch not for each individual stone (that would've been a whopper) Previous Message Welcome to the board JR76! What a delightful jewel you have introduced us to! It is totally new to me. Is anyone else familiar with this brooch? I have been trying to imagine which part of the jewel is en tremblant. Is it the central element? If so, I wonder if it moves like the central element in the brooch seen in this video? One little query -- are the diamonds 9cts in total or is the central diamond a 9ct stone? Again a very warm welcome!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by mauriz on June 5, 2019, 1:55 am, in reply to "Queen Josefina's brooch" Lovely piece! A pity they didn't publish photos of the reverse and the additional fittings! Thank you for posting!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by JR76 on June 5, 2019, 7:33 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" My pleasure! They did infact publish a photo of the reverse, but I thought that only I was that much of a nerd to be interested in that. Previous Message Lovely piece! A pity they didn't publish photos of the reverse and the additional fittings! Thank you for posting!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by Beth on June 5, 2019, 8:43 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" Thank you so much JR76. I am always interested in working out how jewels are constructed, and bore people endlessly with questions. I can make out (I think) the spring under the central diamond and the loop for wearing the central section as a pendant. I am still trying to figure out precisely how all the sections join. What an interesting time I will have today! I presume that is the marker's name, plus symbols for gold etc that I can see under the larger diamond in the upper left hand corner, and that the additional hair and brooch fittings screw in. What an incredibly versatile jewel!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by Beth on June 5, 2019, 8:50 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" I wonder if the hair pins simply hook over the small loops I can see between the sections of the leaf elements? I hope I have made sense!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by mauriz on June 6, 2019, 7:52 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" Thank you! Much appreciated! I love these versatile pieces!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by Dave on June 5, 2019, 9:10 am, in reply to "Queen Josefina's brooch" Hi and welcome JR76, thanks for this post. Regards, Dave. Previous Message The estate of Count Oscar Bernadotte of Wisborg who passed away a few months ago is auctioning off some items including this brooch said to have belonged to Queen Josefina of Sweden and Norway. After her death it was inherited by her son King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway, his son Prince Oscar Bernadotte, his daughter Elsa Cedergren, her brother Count Carl Bernadotte and then his son Oscar Bernadotte. Prince Oscar's wife, Princess Ebba is seen wearing the brooch on their gold wedding celebrations on March 5 1938. The brooch is made of gold and silver and 10 cm long. It has 9 ct diamonds set "à la trembleuse" and can be divided into three pieces. It was made by Court Jeweller Gustaf Möllenborg around 1860 and comes in a box together with a set of hair and brooch pins. The asking price is €14000-19000

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by Thomas on June 7, 2019, 4:41 am, in reply to "Queen Josefina's brooch" What a wonderful find JR76! Thank you, and welcome to the board!

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by JR76 on June 17, 2019, 10:24 am, in reply to "Queen Josefina's brooch" The brooch was one of only two items in the estate of Count Oscar Bernadotte that wasn't sold at the auction this week. The other item is a cigarette case in gold with a Luxembourgish comital crown that originally belonged to Prince Oscar Bernadotte who was made a Count of Wisborg by his uncle Grand Duke Adolphe of Luxembourg. I'm a bit puzzled about such a pretty brooch not being sold, but maybe the auction firm overestimated the significance a royal provenance would have for the price. Also I'd like to thank you everyone for the lovely messages welcoming me to the site. I had been told this was a friendly forum and it turned out to be true. Previous Message The estate of Count Oscar Bernadotte of Wisborg who passed away a few months ago is auctioning off some items including this brooch said to have belonged to Queen Josefina of Sweden and Norway. After her death it was inherited by her son King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway, his son Prince Oscar Bernadotte, his daughter Elsa Cedergren, her brother Count Carl Bernadotte and then his son Oscar Bernadotte. Prince Oscar's wife, Princess Ebba is seen wearing the brooch on their gold wedding celebrations on March 5 1938. The brooch is made of gold and silver and 10 cm long. It has 9 ct diamonds set "à la trembleuse" and can be divided into three pieces. It was made by Court Jeweller Gustaf Möllenborg around 1860 and comes in a box together with a set of hair and brooch pins. The asking price is €14000-19000

Re: Queen Josefina's brooch Posted by Beth on June 20, 2019, 6:50 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Josefina's brooch" Many thanks for the update JR76. The failure of the brooch to sell was unexpected to me, but perhaps, as you indicated, the reserve price was too high. Like JR76 I thoroughly enjoy the friendliness of people on this board.

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