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Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Beth on April 2, 2020, 7:16 pm Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Dave on April 2, 2020, 8:38 pm, in reply to "Swedish Royal jewel documentary" Started to watch will finish it later. Even though I cannot understand the language the video gives you a better close up and appreciation of the pieces which are truly beautiful especially the Braganza tiara. Thanks, Dave. Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by OmerH on April 2, 2020, 8:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" Thank yoy Benny and Beth for the link. Its really great to see. I turned on the subtitles and they are in both Swedish and English.

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Stefan on April 2, 2020, 10:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" How do you get english subtitles? I also turned it on but i only get them in swedish. Previous Message Thank yoy Benny and Beth for the link. Its really great to see. I turned on the subtitles and they are in both Swedish and English.

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by OmerH on April 3, 2020, 1:42 am, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" See Sam's answer below. Google Chrome seems to do the trick.

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Dave on April 4, 2020, 9:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" Was very impressed by the simple presentation of such beauty and history. It didn't matter that I could not understand the language just showing one how these jewels are stored was exemplary. Connecting with the public in such a way will allow for the continued support for the monarchy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Started to watch will finish it later. Even though I cannot understand the language the video gives you a better close up and appreciation of the pieces which are truly beautiful especially the Braganza tiara. Thanks, Dave. Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Benny on April 5, 2020, 8:39 am, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" I totalt agree, I love the tone they used. They really showered and talked about the historic value, grace and the respect of the jewels. It really feels genuine and real. Was very impressed by the simple presentation of such beauty and history. It didn't matter that I could not understand the language just showing one how these jewels are stored was exemplary. Connecting with the public in such a way will allow for the continued support for the monarchy. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Started to watch will finish it later. Even though I cannot understand the language the video gives you a better close up and appreciation of the pieces which are truly beautiful especially the Braganza tiara. Thanks, Dave. Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Benny on April 2, 2020, 9:52 pm, in reply to "Swedish Royal jewel documentary" The only "new" piece shown is a gold bracelet with a portrait of Empress Amelie (47min 45sec) And when The Connaught Tiara is shown you can se the "link" used for wearing it as a necklace, guess we will se it more clearly next episode Here are some facts stated regarding ownership etc. The Cameo’s Made by Nitot and was a gift from Napoleon to empress Josefine 1809. 1814 her son Eugène inherit the Cameos, but it’s unclear how Josefina got them, first portrait of her wearing them is 22 years later 1836. The Cameos are signed. They talk about how fragile the tiara is and the queen says she have stopped bringing it abroad because of that. The Leuchtenberg Safire’s Was a gift from empress Josefine to her stepdaughter Augusta of Leuchtenberg when her first son was born August was born 9 December 1810 and the letter from Augusta to her brother is dated 23February 1811. Josefina of Sweden received the Safire’s as a wedding gift 1823. The Steel set When Hortense dies 1837 her goddaughter Eugenie inherit the complete set of steel jewels. And when she dies her sister Empress Amelie inherit them and 1873 they goes to Josefina of Sweden. Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Kongetro on April 2, 2020, 10:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" Thank you Benny for the link and welcome! I had a wonderful time watching the documentary, seeing those lovely pieces and listening to the Queen, the Crown Princess and Princess Christina talking about them. Previous Message The only "new" piece shown is a gold bracelet with a portrait of Empress Amelie (47min 45sec) And when The Connaught Tiara is shown you can se the "link" used for wearing it as a necklace, guess we will se it more clearly next episode Here are some facts stated regarding ownership etc. The Cameo’s Made by Nitot and was a gift from Napoleon to empress Josefine 1809. 1814 her son Eugène inherit the Cameos, but it’s unclear how Josefina got them, first portrait of her wearing them is 22 years later 1836. The Cameos are signed. They talk about how fragile the tiara is and the queen says she have stopped bringing it abroad because of that. The Leuchtenberg Safire’s Was a gift from empress Josefine to her stepdaughter Augusta of Leuchtenberg when her first son was born August was born 9 December 1810 and the letter from Augusta to her brother is dated 23February 1811. Josefina of Sweden received the Safire’s as a wedding gift 1823. The Steel set When Hortense dies 1837 her goddaughter Eugenie inherit the complete set of steel jewels. And when she dies her sister Empress Amelie inherit them and 1873 they goes to Josefina of Sweden. Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link! Kongetro To visit my website Regal Events use this link: https://regalevents913271078.wordpress.com/

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary - English Subtitles Posted by Sam (The Beau Monde) on April 2, 2020, 11:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" If you watch it via Google Chrome it will automatically translate the Swedish subtitles into English

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary - English Subtitles Posted by Benny on April 3, 2020, 12:03 am, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary - English Subtitles" The automatic translation might not be the best but at least gives a better understanding what they are talking about. But I love how Cameo Tiara being translated to the Comedy and Camel Tiara, made me laugh Previous Message If you watch it via Google Chrome it will automatically translate the Swedish subtitles into English

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary - English Subtitles Posted by RDavid on April 3, 2020, 12:05 am, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary - English Subtitles" Yes 😂 thought the same! Previous Message The automatic translation might not be the best but at least gives a better understanding what they are talking about. But I love how Cameo Tiara being translated to the Comedy and Camel Tiara, made me laugh Previous Message If you watch it via Google Chrome it will automatically translate the Swedish subtitles into English

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by RDavid on April 2, 2020, 11:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" That gold bracelet with the Empress’ hair belongs to the Portuguese treasure! It was left to one of Amelie’s step-grandchildren.

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Benny on April 2, 2020, 11:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" Ah thank's for the info, to bad they didn't mention that. Previous Message That gold bracelet with the Empress’ hair belongs to the Portuguese treasure! It was left to one of Amelie’s step-grandchildren.

Miniature Bracelet Posted by RDavid on April 3, 2020, 1:51 am, in reply to "Swedish Royal jewel documentary" Here you have the link that goes to the inventory of objects belonging to the Portuguese State to check more information about the bracelet: http://www.matriznet.dgpc.pt/MatrizNet/Objectos/ObjectosConsultar.aspx?IdReg=1088134&Lang=EN Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Andrew U on April 3, 2020, 8:30 am, in reply to "Swedish Royal jewel documentary" I Agree! I love how "squishy" the Braganza tiara is! And now I understand how hard it is for the Sapphire Tiara must be to stand up! Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Kasper on April 4, 2020, 3:41 am, in reply to "Swedish Royal jewel documentary" It was just so AWSOME. I saw it in the morning online and again last night when it was on air in the swedish tv. As other members noted, they had such a nice tone and seemed so devoted and friendly towards the camera and the family hairmooms that they are wearing and protecting. The journalist asked the quee: how do you all deside and agree on what to wear. The queens answer was: we have a dialog, we dont discuss, we have a dialog in the family. And every body has their favorite, the queen loves the saphire parure. And normaly the girls ask her first what she intend to wear. The crownprincess said, that there where diadems she would not wear, because they where for her mother the queen. Like the saphire, cameo and the brasilian... Princess Christina said, this is not just bling, this is family history, and we are proud to wear it. Cant wait for the next episode... And so weird the Norwegian refused to participate in a 3. Episode... They have Nice jewelry to... Previous Message Wonderful! Wonderful! -- even though I cannot understand Swedish! If I could watch it in Australia, I hope others in different parts of the world can also. Now could I impose on those who understand Swedish to tell us all the interesting facts, please? I was fascinated by the information in English that the sapphires had originally been given to Augusta, the wife of Napoleon's step-son in 1811. What excitement the historian must have felt when she found the letter! One of the things which caught my attention was how the Braganza tiara moves. In a previous program Queen Silvia mentioned that. Seeing how it does move was very interesting. Thank you Benny for the link!

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Eiriksn on April 4, 2020, 9:06 am, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" I find it a bit strange that the Norwegian royal family has this attitude But of course they are allowed to do as they please, especially since it’s not state property. But if the argument is that it is private property, surely that would also count as an argument for keeping other personal property out of the spotlight as well. Yet, Queen Sonja has shown her private art collection. There are books about their properties where they also show the private ones, with pictures of the interior. And exhibitions and TV programs where they show other parts of the personal collections. I remember that the refusal to show the Norwegian jewels at exhibitions has also been discussed earlier. That might be a security issue though. I loved the way the Swedish royal ladies talked about the jewels and continuity. The jewels represent something very special. Unlike other parts of a royal collection they are worn and are part of history on special events in a more public way. And it must be very special to wear something that has been worn by several generations. The story Queen Silvia told about the state visit in France shows how the royals wear the jewels to honor their hosts (or guests on incoming state visits), and to show the connections between countries. The state visit didn’t have a tiara event, but she wore pieces of the cameo parure (she even wore the brooch with Napoléon in her hair). She says that she even had a conversation with the president about it. Queen Sonja seems very aware of the history of the Norwegian jewels as well, and makes similar gestures.

Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary Posted by Knightship on April 4, 2020, 10:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Swedish Royal jewel documentary" I think the Garrard robbery in 1995 was a shock for the NRF and the main reason for declining to participate, they simply don't want any extra public focus on the historic Royal jewels. Sad for us, but understandable when 15 pieces was stolen. Queen Maud's pearl tiara, the diamond and gold necklace and ring Queen Sonja received as a silver wedding present from the Norwegian Goldsmith’s Guild in 1993 were the only stolen pieces the Royal Court would confirm being stolen. Only the tiara was remade by Garrard. The Norwegian amethyst parure was part of the insurance settlement between Garrard and King Harald for the remaining stolen pieces. Since Harald owned most of the stolen pieces, they were most likely Royal heirlooms. Queen Sonja also declined in 2007 to participate with pieces to an exhibition of Norwegian Jaeren pearls from the 1640s to present day. Sonja has received several brooches with Norwegian pearls when visiting Counties and Municipalities on the West Coast. Queen Margrethe contributed several pieces with Norwegian pearls from the Danish Royal Collection, but Sonja declined to loan out any pieces because they "are private property". Sonja did however contribute several modern pieces to an exhibition of “Tone Vigeland: Jewellery and Sculpture” in her own ArtStable in 2018. The argument of "private property" is thus just an excuse for not telling the real reason, i.m.o. Previous Message I find it a bit strange that the Norwegian royal family has this attitude But of course they are allowed to do as they please, especially since it’s not state property. But if the argument is that it is private property, surely that would also count as an argument for keeping other personal property out of the spotlight as well. Yet, Queen Sonja has shown her private art collection. There are books about their properties where they also show the private ones, with pictures of the interior. And exhibitions and TV programs where they show other parts of the personal collections. I remember that the refusal to show the Norwegian jewels at exhibitions has also been discussed earlier. That might be a security issue though. I loved the way the Swedish royal ladies talked about the jewels and continuity. The jewels represent something very special. Unlike other parts of a royal collection they are worn and are part of history on special events in a more public way. And it must be very special to wear something that has been worn by several generations. The story Queen Silvia told about the state visit in France shows how the royals wear the jewels to honor their hosts (or guests on incoming state visits), and to show the connections between countries. The state visit didn’t have a tiara event, but she wore pieces of the cameo parure (she even wore the brooch with Napoléon in her hair). She says that she even had a conversation with the president about it. Queen Sonja seems very aware of the history of the Norwegian jewels as well, and makes similar gestures.

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