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Queen Elizabeth II 's long pearl necklace § 1 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:25 pm From the Queen jewels vault : "Leslie Field notes a two strand necklace made of 222 pearls with a clasp of two rubies in a diamond surround which belonged to Queen Victoria; the pearls previously belonged to Ranjit Singh, ruler of the Punjab, and Victoria received it as a gift from the East India Company after Britain annexed the Punjab in 1849. This was in the Queen Mother's possession, but would have passed to the Queen after her death, and seems a good match for the necklace seen above." Worn this two strand pearl necklace a long one. Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth ii 's long graduated pearl necklace worn once in Vatican § 2 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:26 pm, in reply to "Queen Elizabeth 's long pearl necklace § 1 " A long pearl necklace worn one in Vatican : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's long pearl necklace worn with a 3 strand pearl necklace (graduated) § 3 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth 's long pearl necklace worn once in Vatican § 2" Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's pearl necklace more informal look § 4 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth 's long pearl necklace worn with a 3 strand pearl necklace (graduated) § 3" Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's small pearl necklace § 5 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth 's pearl necklace more informal look § 4" Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's pearl necklace (with big pearls) with a diamond clasp § 6 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth 's small pearl necklace § 5" convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's pearl necklace worn with Queen Mary § 7 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth 's pearl necklace (with big pearls) with a diamond clasp § 6" Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's first pearl necklace § 8 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth 's pearl necklace worn with Queen Mary § 7" Previous Message Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's coral and pearl necklace § 9 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's first pearl necklace § 8" Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Queen Elizabeth II 's huge pearl necklace § 10 Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's coral and pearl necklace § 9" lettre copier coller Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's summary of the posts Posted by Franck on October 19, 2021, 3:55 pm, in reply to "Queen Elizabeth II 's huge pearl necklace § 10" Dear all, I refer to my post below concerning pearl necklaces worn by QEII. My researches shown that QEII has worn on least 10 different one single pearl strand necklaces. https://mb.boardhost.com/historyroyaljewels/msg/1633525142.html Please do not hesitate to complete or correct me. I would like to do a panel of this (like it was done in the past). I will do the same : 1. QEII II : her 4 Strand Pearl Necklaces ; 2. QEQM : her 1, 2,3 and 2 strand pearl necklaces. I would like to resolve these mysteries (on least to have an idea/or a summary). Franck Previous Message lettre copier coller Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's summary of the posts Posted by Dave on October 20, 2021, 12:55 am, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's summary of the posts " Thanks Franck, all very interesting posts. Regards, Dave. Previous Message Dear all, I refer to my post below concerning pearl necklaces worn by QEII. My researches shown that QEII has worn on least 10 different one single pearl strand necklaces. https://mb.boardhost.com/historyroyaljewels/msg/1633525142.html Please do not hesitate to complete or correct me. I would like to do a panel of this (like it was done in the past). I will do the same : 1. QEII II : her 4 Strand Pearl Necklaces ; 2. QEQM : her 1, 2,3 and 2 strand pearl necklaces. I would like to resolve these mysteries (on least to have an idea/or a summary). Franck Previous Message lettre copier coller Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's summary of the posts Posted by Beth on October 20, 2021, 2:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's summary of the posts " What an amazing amount of work Frack! Thanks for sharing it all with us. You have really made my mind work!!

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's huge pearl necklace § 10 Posted by August on July 7, 2022, 12:27 am, in reply to "Queen Elizabeth II 's huge pearl necklace § 10" Previous Message lettre copier coller Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message convertisseur texte The pearls are not graduated Maybe also worn with her 3 strand pearl necklace : Franck Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message Diamond clasp : 7.jpg[/img] les majuscules Maybe this one ? : Franck this looks like one of the queen Anne or queen caroline pearls to me

Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's long pearl necklace § 1 Posted by Beth on October 20, 2021, 2:01 pm, in reply to "Queen Elizabeth II 's long pearl necklace § 1 " My understanding is that all the pearls in the three strands form part of what we call the Indian pearls. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother normally wore the three strands. Two strands, forming one necklace, have the clasp with the two rubies. The third strand has a pearl snap. QEQM wearing the 3 strands. From the same function there is also a photo showing the rear of these 3 strands. Another view of the back of the 3 strands. Or have I been confused for some time? What I know about the Indian pearls. 1. They were presented to Queen Victoria by the East India Company on 23 October 1851, after having been exhibited at the Great Exhibition in London in 1851. The pearls, formerly the property of Ranjit Singh, had been found in the Treasury of Lahore when it was annexed in 1849. 2. According to Queen Victoria there were 224 pearls which she referred to as "very large", "quite splendid & a very beautiful ornament" According to Twinning there are 222 pearls. 3. When the pearls were presented to Queen Victoria they formed a 4 strand necklace, and it would appear that both she and Queen Alexandra wore the pearls in this way. 4. Queen Victoria left these pearls to the Crown. Winterhalter painting of Queen Victoria wearing the pearls. Reports of Queen Victoria's jewels at formal Court Drawing Rooms, State balls etc show that she wore these pearls frequently. Queen Alexandra also wore the pearls frequently as a 4 strand necklace. According to Twinning, these pearls were restrung in 1910, 1937 and 1941. It is clear from numerous photos that these pearls were worn frequently by QEQM and that Queen Elizabeth II only commenced wearing them in recent years. At times Queen Elizabeth II wears only the two strands secured with the twin ruby clasp. At other times QEII wears 3 strands. My understanding is that the third, longer, separate strand forms part of the Indian pearls.

Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 Posted by Beth on October 20, 2021, 2:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen Elizabeth II 's long pearl necklace § 1 " I wonder if the pearls which feature in Franck's posts number 2 and 6 might be the same? Having said that, I freely admit that my eyes are not as keen as Franck's. I did a side by side view to enable viewers to see them together.

Re: Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 Posted by Franck on October 20, 2021, 5:30 pm, in reply to "Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 " Dear Beth, I think that these pearls are not the same : - Pearls worn in Vatican are bigger (to me) ; - The pearls are, also to me, more graduated ; Franck Previous Message I wonder if the pearls which feature in Franck's posts number 2 and 6 might be the same? Having said that, I freely admit that my eyes are not as keen as Franck's. I did a side by side view to enable viewers to see them together.

Re: Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 Posted by Beth on October 20, 2021, 6:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 " Thanks Franck. You have a much better eye than I have. I must admit that pearls, like diamonds, need to have some significant differences for me to be able to spot things.

Have others noticed that for the visit to the Vatican QEII did not wear her engagement ring? Posted by Beth on October 20, 2021, 6:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 " See Franck's recent set of images https://mb.boardhost.com/historyroyaljewels/msg/1634715027.html This is probably the only official public engagement which I know of where QEII has not worn her engagement ring. I wonder if, at the time, Vatican protocol dictated what jewels a Princess as opposed to a Queen (or any lady) could wear?

Re: Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 Posted by Franck on October 20, 2021, 11:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Re pearls in posts 2 and 6 " "I must admit that pearls, like diamonds, need to have some significant differences for me to be able to spot things." Thanks to your work, the works of Baxter/Boffer....and others like me we have a general consensus ! For example, for the diamonds we have a general consensus that QEII has at least 7 different diamond collet necklaces (including the one worn by the Duchess of Cambridge). Franck Thanks Franck. You have a much better eye than I have. I must admit that pearls, like diamonds, need to have some significant differences for me to be able to spot things.

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