No one is bashing 16u to 18u players we are calling out the irresponsible adults and organizations who promote that they won a natty. In Alliance 91 teams started and after the first round 64 teams were eliminated and given consolation games. Whoever won Tier 2 or Tier 3 won a consolation tournament. 32 teams competed in Tier 2 after being eliminated and 23 teams competed in Tier 3 after elimination. If you won Tier two you were 33rd, not bad. If you won Tier 3 you were 65th and that is nothing to brag about. We are only asking for transparency. Go ahead and post you won Tier 3 Alliance Nationals but don't post you won Alliance Nationals. The same goes for Alliance Open Nationals.