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Time to Talk High School

Posted by King on November 21, 2024, 2:25 pm

St. Charles North?
Marist?
Oswego?

Who’s gonna be strong?

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Boomalot on November 23, 2024, 3:42 pm, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

Sleeper Teams:
Lockport
Glenbard North
Lake Park
Andrew
Bradley Bournonais

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by DuKane follower on November 25, 2024, 10:01 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Agree with LP if they can hit better.

GBN has one star hitter and not much behind that. Middle of the conference.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @DuKane on November 25, 2024, 11:54 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Spot on
LP is ready to really make a run
Glenbard North has the best player but absolutely below average pitching

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Boomalot on November 25, 2024, 1:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Best players in DuKane:
1) GBN SS
2) WN SS (under rated)
3) STCE C-OG
4) - 12) are all STCN players thus they keep winning.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @Boomalot on November 25, 2024, 8:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Amen, takes more than one stud. However, GBN and LP are both talented beyond thier Stud SS and extremely talented pitcher. It's going to be as tough and competitive of a conference as it has been the last several years.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Dukane on November 27, 2024, 9:46 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

No mention of Wheaton North??

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Pitching on December 12, 2024, 11:03 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Going to be hard to replace Metz there.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Dukane on December 16, 2024, 6:42 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Shes being replaced by a girl thats gonna pitch in SEC.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by The Who on November 27, 2024, 3:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Wheaton North lost a bunch of talent including their pitcher. One great player cannot win a lot!

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Fluffington McGiggles on November 23, 2024, 9:41 am, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

High School Softball!

1. Move it to the fall
2. Don't play in winter, summer or spring
3. See #1

Our kids are at such a disadvantage. Summer is their most important recruiting time, and they come out of meaningless (for recruiting) seasons banged up and with dead arms.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by King on November 23, 2024, 7:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Field conditions alone merit a move to the Fall. That’d allow travel to begin in May but it would conflict with volleyball.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by EagledEye on November 23, 2024, 6:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Fall is the prime recruiting time for players looking to play in college. The college coaches want to see players play against high caliber teams which is not always the case with high school ball.

Play HS ball when the college coaches are not available because they are busy with their teams.

I would bet you would see a lot of players forego high school ball for their travel teams if the season was moved to the fall.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @EagleEye on November 24, 2024, 9:08 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Great point.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @Whatever on November 23, 2024, 10:13 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Who is at a disadvantage? There are maybe five states that play fall ball, all with minimal softball head count. You'd hate Cali ball, where they can play year-round.

High School is the excuse epicenter of softball. If you're kids not good, it's on the bad pitching; if your kid underperforms in travel, it's because high school screwed them up. If your kid is good, they're good everywhere and show up no matter the circumstances.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Fluffington McGiggles on November 23, 2024, 12:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Hadn't considered using HS as an excuse epicenter. Rather, here's the challenge for kids who want to play in college:

HS training/games: Feb-May
Club training/games: June-November*
Rest/recuperate: December-January

*You might get off a few weeks after Alliance/PGF nationals, but then roll right into fall club season.

So kids can recuperate and training in winter for a couple of months, but by the time they get to June, they are already taxed (especially pitchers and catchers).

In almost all cases, if a pitcher is coming out of HS season with 100+ innings on her arm, she is NOT going to be ready to peak in club season. That's not an excuse, and it's the case in every sport.

Summer is so important for college recruiting, and it's not helped by high school. Yes, HS has social/emotional benefits, but it's a waste from a recruiting perspective.

College takes the summer off, plays 10-15 games in the fall, trains all winter, and then is ready to play at peak performance for a four month season. Between HS and club, our kids are playing a five month season, followed by a two month fall season. It's nuts.

Or, maybe our kids are just not good enough and they need to suck it up and quite making "excuses"...

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @FMG on November 25, 2024, 11:03 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

You make a lot of good points, but its a false narrative that HS is good for nothing. If that's the way you feel, then just have your kid sit out HS season. You likely undermine the program anyway.

I coach HS ball. The hardest thing to get out of kids heads is that we play a full 7 innings, not 70 minutes. We get 21 outs to work with. In game adjustments are key. HS isn't a showcase, its a grind. But at the end of the day it can provide much more than TB. Representing your community at a state tournament is hard to beat.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @HS Coach on November 25, 2024, 8:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Coach,

Thanks for the reply, and thanks for the time you give to the girls and sport.

I think you'll see that I didn't suggest HS was good for nothing. My comments were from the perspective of a player/parent who has college softball as their ultimate goal. From that view, HS season is the least important of the three seasons - and therefore the one that can interfere with that goal.

Representing one's school is great. So is a college opportunity.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Top Dog on November 22, 2024, 6:45 pm, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

Marist is the top dog in the state once again. Marist has two pretty good pitchers and the best position players in the state. Pretty sure they will have around 9-10 Bandit girls on the team.

Marist had 9-10 Bandits last year, and still figured out how to lose at state. When you have that many D1 girls on a team you are expected to win the championship every year. Not always an easy task.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by PC Dad on November 22, 2024, 4:15 pm, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

Providence Catholic

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @PC Dad on November 24, 2024, 10:07 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

You are kidding right??

Providence will have an average at best softball team. You would be better off moving into the Lincoln Way district and saving $15,000 per year. Providence has terrible facilities and is extremely dated. Even more dated than LWC.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Oh Yeah on November 22, 2024, 2:18 pm, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

Mundelien has a bunch returning.
Huntley too!
Andrew will be TOUGH.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Coach on November 24, 2024, 9:54 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Huntley has not had a serious pitcher since Heard left for South Carolina.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Cletus on November 23, 2024, 9:07 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Mundelein lost their pitcher due to injury

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Tobias Greyfoot on November 22, 2024, 5:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Problem with Mundelein is the lack of coaching and the pitcher is out for the year. Antioch handed them their only regular season loss, she was clearly out coached.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Me on November 22, 2024, 11:47 am, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

How will LWE and LWC be this year?

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @me on November 22, 2024, 6:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

LWE has a good team but missing a dominant pitcher. LWE probably has one of the top teams in regards to position players.

LWC has the best pitcher in the state but they graduated a lot of position players last year. I am expecting LWC to have more losses this year than the previous year. LWC will have to win a lot of low scoring games.

LWW has a good pitcher and some really good position players. LWW did not lose any impactful players from last years roster. They should be a good team also.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by The Wizard on November 22, 2024, 4:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

LWE has no pitching

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @the wizard on November 25, 2024, 2:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

They have the pitching, but they will have to bring up some of the younger players.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @“The Wizard” on November 24, 2024, 7:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Pretty sure I just saw that the LWE junior just beat NLL Abbott and only gave up 1 ER to Tholl today. That team may be better than your wizardly mind thinks.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Wiz on November 25, 2024, 11:28 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Very proud of your daughter
Daddy ball is alive and well

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Well on November 25, 2024, 12:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Those levels are definitely not daddy ball, so bye.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Marist on November 23, 2024, 10:10 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

The heavy favorite

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by @Marist on November 23, 2024, 10:17 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Marist will always be a draw for talent. They have great academics, you play against serious talent every day at practice, and they have college-level/good travel-level coaching. If you can swing, why not?

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Coach on November 24, 2024, 9:56 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

When you don't have a jurisdiction boundary for your school district, and you have alumni donors to pay for players, what do you expect??

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Why not? on November 24, 2024, 1:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Why can’t all the other private schools match Marist? No private school has restrictions on recruiting area and all private schools have alumni to help reduce costs.

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Bill Conroy on November 25, 2024, 8:27 am, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

I agree with "Why not?", give Colleen Biebel (Phelan) the credit she deserves. She won her first state championship as an assistant and has never slowed down, despite getting married, having kids and life in general. Yes, she can recruit whomever she wants but so can any other private school. believe it or not, scholarship or not, nobody rides for free.
Just give the young lady her due and stop being haters!

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by Minooka on November 22, 2024, 10:25 am, in reply to "Time to Talk High School"

Minooka

Re: Time to Talk High School

Posted by King on November 22, 2024, 2:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Time to Talk High School"

Maybe…but call me Skeptic.
They lost a lot of talent

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