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Nationality Speaking

Posted by Exactly what is this on May 16, 2025, 8:02 am

Can someone explain exactly what is a "National Team" There is an organization all over Facebook trying to sell their National Team.

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Posted by National Team on May 19, 2025, 8:40 am, in reply to "Nationality Speaking"

I could be wrong, but don't most true National level teams have girls from multiple states? I know that's not always the case i.e. Chill

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by FBI on May 17, 2025, 8:14 pm, in reply to "Nationality Speaking"

Is this the organization that plays at the biker church?

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Posted by FBI on May 20, 2025, 2:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Having fields without lights is like a mustache with no wax... make no sense.

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Posted by @FBI on May 22, 2025, 6:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

I get it! That guy, I am still trying to find out what used car lot he works at. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by Latte on May 23, 2025, 8:18 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Just follow the trailer of latte cans and you will find him

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by ESPN on May 16, 2025, 1:23 pm, in reply to "Nationality Speaking"

What team are we talking about?

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by NattyLight on May 16, 2025, 10:35 am, in reply to "Nationality Speaking"

With over 300 teams in the Chicagoland area your little stud has 300 choices. If you don't like what an org is doing move on to the next one. I believe the org this thread is about has two teams qualified for PGF in Huntington Beach, I would call that a step in the right direction. I'm sure you can change your team name for $300 a month to some national org and the doors will fly open at every big event for your team or are you worried that parents are on to that scam.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by Exactly what is this again? on May 16, 2025, 12:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

This is a question not a rip session, what is this organizations plan? What are the costs? Is there a plan in place? Are the coaches parents? Is there D1 connections?

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by We rip on May 16, 2025, 1:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

I think they get ripped because everyone knows their reputation. DIRT, no pun intended

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by exactly speaking on May 16, 2025, 8:45 am, in reply to "Nationality Speaking"

It is the third or fourth time this lady in the SWS is reinventing her money grab routine. How many will be fooled this time?

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @Exacttly on May 16, 2025, 8:48 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

How much money can you possibly make off of a softball team? Unless you just took payments and folded immediately, it would be difficult to profit.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by exactly math on May 16, 2025, 9:22 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

average roster size of 12 x $4k = $48,000
16 teams currently x $48,000 = $768,000

difficult to profit? maybe you need some ELA on top of those math classes.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @ math on May 16, 2025, 1:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Don't forget the mandatory training, and in house spring teams.
In house lessons$$, fundraising, etc.....

MORE numbers to think about.

13 athletes on a team x $4000 = $52,000
Average prices

15 tournaments $1,500each = $22,500
Uniforms 13 x $400 = $5200
Practice and Indoor time = $10,000

Other unexpected expenses = $5,000

Balance:
PURE PROFIT: $9,300

People need to stop saying they are not making money.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @@Math on May 16, 2025, 3:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

.. so like $1k a month for 9 months of work?

Sorry, my brother, really sorry about how things turned out for you.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @Brother Math on May 16, 2025, 7:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Now BROTHER, times that by 16×1000=16,000 a month not to shabby Brother!

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by 3 way spit on May 16, 2025, 9:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

not bad split between 2 owners / "founder" and a president... thanks to unpaid coaches.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by Tax guy on May 17, 2025, 8:41 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

The owner married so money stay one house hold.

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Posted by Hey Brother on May 16, 2025, 8:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Lets take that a step further 16,000 x 9 =

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Posted by @Hey Brother on May 17, 2025, 8:18 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

This makes Bill Conroy seem like an idiot. Why is kicking in $ 100- 200k a year? He must be doing it wrong.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @hey bro on May 17, 2025, 8:45 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Maybe he is but sending players to P4 programs. They sending players to Jr colleges

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @@hey bro on May 17, 2025, 9:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

BC has a day job.

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Posted by @@@hey bro on May 22, 2025, 11:22 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

BC also doesn't take every girl with a pulse regardless of talent to create as many teams as possible.

He also doesn't expect his parents to build fields for him to have his players use.

He also doesn't use all parent coaches.

Unlike the organization being discussed, no one would every accuse the Bandits of being a money grab organization.

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Posted by @@@@Hey Bro on May 22, 2025, 11:34 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

I think your butt hurt is blocking your sarcasm detector. We get it, that program didn't work for you, but it worked for some, right?

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @Hey Brother on May 17, 2025, 8:03 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Having coached for over a decade, including national teams, your numbers are laughable, but I'm glad you found a villain for your narrative. I'm guessing three things are true for you:

The vast majority of travel softball funding is on credit cards.

You were under the impression that being part of this level of team would automatically improve your child's skills.

Even though deep in your heart, you knew your kid was a roster afterthought, you thought swiping the card meant guaranteed playing time.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @Exactly on May 16, 2025, 10:05 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

.. and that's pure profit?

You've obviously never had P&L Responsibility or owned a business.

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Posted by exactly done on May 16, 2025, 10:25 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

This will be my last comment because you are obviously on the inside of this campaign. With 16 teams already, over 750k of cashflow is significant and this cannot be denied. Make your assumptions about me and deflect. I never said pure profit, I said cashflow. I also have no clue why her business models do not work. I do have a clue why her teams are not successful, but for one since covid and her last rebranding. Some of us have been around this game, and her, a long time. Thanks for playing, good luck.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by Nationwide is on your side on May 16, 2025, 8:28 am, in reply to "Nationality Speaking"

That means that instead of getting smoked locally like normal, that team will now get run-ruled in every game on a national level. It also gives the parents an opportunity to spend more of their time and money on it.

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Posted by Reality Check on May 16, 2025, 10:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

It’s wild that more people haven’t connected the dots. Many of these teams have been training under that system for years even before the hostile takeovers of other orgs and as a whole, they still don’t compete well locally or nationally.

Development isn’t about more reps, more outdated drills, or stacking private lessons with an antiquated approach. That’s not real development it’s smoke and mirrors.

Let’s be honest this is not a “non-profit” organization in spirit. The business funnels money directly into its training side. It was built to generate revenue, not to serve players. That’s not inherently wrong but let’s stop pretending it’s “about the kids.”

They continue to lose their top players, and now the answer is to promise National teams, a complete pivot from what they originally sold families on. When they launched, they said you didn’t need to travel the country to get recruited that’s not what they were about.

The lie detector determined that was a lie.

Now families are burning crucial recruiting years chasing empty promises, getting lit up on a National level, and wondering what went wrong. The truth? It was never about the players. It was always about the business.

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @ Reality Check on May 25, 2025, 10:28 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Your message is spot on! It is almost like you and your athlete experienced the organization.
Well your not alone, the first year we drank the tea and were very disappointed in the product.
The attendance at tryouts was something I have never witnessed before. That made us all feel this was going to be something special. We were on board when we had received the call. We were on board with the "sales pitch" it sounded like a dream.
Then after things started to change. It was the pressure of what was expected of families. It was the volunteer work that was pressured on every parent. It was the scam fundraising lottery tickets that was a turn off. It was the raffles. It was the obvious favoritism to the teams that maybe important peoples kids were on.
This is where eyes started to open. As the season went on the truths came out. Like you pointed out the taking down organizations. How much donated monies went into fields that the organization did not own. How the money is filtered and so on and so on.
We made alot of friend through our experience. Some left some stayed as the first year was enough for us. We were invited back to the team. But also other coaches/trainers were pushing our daughter to a different team and that was very uncomfortable, we decided to part ways.
It seems like this organization has big dreams but greed has been it's biggest down fall. Everything is a sales pitch, and now this National Team that was not supposed to happen is just a sales pitch. The tournaments in the own back yard has been thrown out the window. Great thoughts but definitely a sales pitch!

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by @@Exactly on May 16, 2025, 9:35 am, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Well let's think about this "Pipe Dream".
What tournaments will such a young organization be able to get in?
These team will be made up of local talents.
These coaches will more than likely be Dads.
The Facility well everyone know what that is about.$$$$
What have they actually achieved at the higher level.
Anyone that has been around knows that
CHEATERS NEVER WIN!!

Re: Nationality Speaking

Posted by Dreamer on May 17, 2025, 4:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Nationality Speaking"

Please tell us the name of the organizations that have free fee's, free training, win everything locally, never travel and still get everyone recruited.

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