The last T&T I know of was 2011. I didn't think it was a good look for cryonics even then and did not understand why T&T's were given all-expense paid cryonics conference trips when people like me have been around for decades. Later I determined that Bill and Saul were looking for blood donors for companies like Ambrosia or their own secret blood transfusion operations. In fact, Saul died from "sepsis", blood infection. It's said it was a side effect of a recent stent implant but who knows for sure without detailed private investigation and who's going to pay for that? Nobody. Pure spec on my part.
I just ran a search on "teens & twenties" + cryonics and found a 2014 Alcor "Cryonic" magazine cover featuring a T&T event!... yet I was until now under the impressions that it was an LEF Bill/Saul event.
As I review the ad, it IS an LEF event after all, yet Alcor featured it as a cover story.
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you getting to know each other.
PLUS: an update on the latest emergency
response technologies and revival strategies.
Who is Eligible?
Fully signed up young cryonicists from all
cryonics organizations in their late teens
through age thirty (18-30) as of April 10,
2016 - may apply to attend.
Younger Cryonicists With Parent(s):
Thirteen through seventeen year olds
SCHOLARSHIPS:
Life Extension Foundation, through a gener-
ous education grant, is offering 40 scholar-
ships that pay for ALL of the following:
U.S. airfare to/from South Florida (or up to
$1000 for origin outside the U.S.)
Hotel accommodations for Friday & Satur-
day nights - plus Thursday & Sunday
nights for scholarship attendees who room
together.
Meals and beverages on Friday night, all
day Saturday, & Sunday breakfast & lunch
Registration fee - $350 - also covered
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Rick continues: I've no doubt been out of the loop for years but as I review the article in this 2016 issue of Alcor magazine, it strikes me as not good...
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By Cairn Erfreuliche Idun
A BRIEF hISTORY
“Not normal.” Thank-you! Think about
what is normal. Do you really want to be
“normal?”
We, members of our Asset Preservation
Group (options for Safe, Secure and Legal
Asset Preservation for Post-Resuscitation
Access – oSSLAP), have enjoyed “getting
to know” six annual gatherings of young
cryonicists. And these exceptional, not
normal, young cryonicists have, likewise,
been getting to know us and each other.
related fields. I will conclude with a review
of a few of these outstanding individuals
and their accomplishments. I should be
clear that we have no expectation that all
T2s become professionally involved in
cryonics. They are becoming a scientifically
informed and supportive community.
But first, how did this all come about?
That is the question I have been asked to
shed some light upon.
In the late 80s, Walter Vaninni came to
over time I outlined a plan to help these
valuable members of our future form a
supportive community—to not feel quite
so isolated—to meet other cryonicists their
own age—to spend time with others of like
mind—a place where they could talk about
other things, because cryonics was already
a natural “of course” part of life … and …
be regularly updated on the latest scientific
advances.
But how to make it happen? Ideas are
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Rick continues: I wonder how this is or was supposed to be different than an annual Alcor conference? If the teen and twenty people have to be signed up, why not simply advertise training scholarships and invite applications? What is this party gathering system all about? It may be that it's actually Bill Faloon as the primary driver...
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“Bill Faloon had related his
appreciation to those who had
helped him to attend a meeting of
life extension/cryonics pioneers
when he was a young man. He
noted the resulting payback
benefits that both the cryonics
and the life extension movements
have received from his subsequent
nvolvement, leadership and
financial contributions. Now he
would like to do the same for
other young cryonicists. Cairn
Idun proposed her long held
idea for a “Teens and Twenties”
gathering. Not only did Bill agree
to host the gathering through the
Life Extension Foundation—
LEF would also provide travel, lodging
and registration scholarships.”
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Rick continues: These conferences and the reviews of the series of teen and twenty people from 2011 through, I guess, the years up to this issue in 2016, look good but divorcing them from the legacy crowd, which included me until recently, strikes me as wrong. I've been to several Alcor conference type events and the excitement was in everyone being there, including the legacy people. That struck me as normal. Isolating the younger people is very odd.
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