I was a bit taken aback by the harsh treatment of Rpancake on CryonicsUncensored. I don't go for Buddhism because it's too wishy washy for me however it's one of many religions that include some sort of afterlife in an ethereal realm which science supports according to scientific studies cited by Edward W. WAllace's following of Harold Saxon Burr's work on L-fields in the 1950's and 1960's.
At the very least, Pancake has a "non-zero" chance of surival as a personal entity just like Saul Kent who was cryopreserved but was quoted by Charles Platt as saying that he, Kent, no longer things cryonics will work.
None of these details I just cited is covered in Cryonics Uncensored and there is no expansion on Pancake's health in general, that led to a heart attack. Also not included was the fact that I was invited to contact Pancake in the early 1990's by Dave Pizer. CryonicsUncensored's quote is that I "came onto her". That makes it sound creepy but then so is the entire Pancake thread on CryonicsUncensored.
One more point: Are we to believe that absolutely no survival of a personal entity, i.e. ourselves as persons, can possibly survive immortallly OTHER than via some form of cryonics? Are we to believe that there is no "secondary universe" in the basement consisting of weird quantum phenomena that can accomodate our personality and memory? Are we to believe that the hard problem of concsiousness has thusly been solved and that personality and memory are indeed embedded in preservable brain structure as Drexler proposed in 1984?
CryonicsUncensored is treating Max More pretty harshly lately too I see. A lot of cryonicists are vicious and hard core reductionists to the point of irrationality IMO.
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