I write what works for me, and when I read the OP view, I want... try to find that common ground on which to expand. When I saw common ground with Mark, he resolutely responded with "we have NO common ground." From that moment on I knew fruitful discussion with him was not possible.
YOU called me extremely offensive, verbose, arrogant and conceited. What possible reason did you give me to want to go further? None. YOU shut me down. Mark shut me down.
7:77 wrote some of the most reasoned and compelling philosophical arguments ever posted here, but because her foundation roots to non existence of God, or a god, YOU shut her down.
Your philosophical arguments are solid UNTIL they root into your religious beliefs as if they're unchallengeable universal truths. Then they become wildly unsound and irrational.
Now you complain about the low quality of discussions? We don't rise to your level of authority? And you call us arrogant?
You know I am a Juilliard grad at the graduate level. Mugwump is a Curtis grad and world class opera singer. YOU trashed both of us. Other talents and products of undisclosed excellent educations post here too, and like us, generate low quality discussion with which you find enough fault for little more than contempt.
If you wonder why people get worked up and over, in and with discussions about religion, this is it.