Your problem there
Edited by greenman on May 17, 2025, 8:10 am
..is that Trump has ENDED ‘civil discourse.’ Not only does he never engage in it himself - preferring violently nasty late-night text rants - he doesn’t respect it from others. He takes it as a sign of weakness. He respects only the strong, as his willingness to suck up to world tyrants in Moscow, Beijing, Pyongyang, Riyadh and the like amply demonstrates. Secondly, Trump is engaging in a kind of conversion of U.S. democratic processes to neo-fascist one along the lines of a Putin, or at least an Orban. Repress the media, eliminate immigration, confuse the public, harrass real or perceived ‘enemies,’ and play to the mob. Why would I engage in ‘civil discourse’ with a Hitler? Which brings me to Graboyes and his ‘suggestions,’ which seem to revolve around accommodating Trump. ‘Don’t say this about him,’ Graboyes remonstrates, ‘Don’t be mean (‘nasty’ is the Orange Tyrant’s favorite word),’ ‘don’t swear,’ and ‘Don’t use the ‘f(ascist)’ or the ‘n(azi)’ words. Accommodate. Be nice. Maybe he will let us keep some fragment of our democracy!’ Well, screw that. My Uncle fought the Nazis. I don’t accomodate them, I don’t work with them, and I’m not gonna be nice to them. Trump is the ENEMY. And that’s that. This has gone past the point of ‘civility’ - and maybe, ‘elections.’
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- not exactly sure where to start with this - Trish May 17, 2025, 10:42 am
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- The point by point rebuttal is spot on and effective - Pikes Peak 14115 May 18, 2025, 10:20 am
- Noted (without much surprise) that TW did not respond. - SJW May 18, 2025, 10:20 am
- Good rebuttal! - greenman May 18, 2025, 9:38 am
- Well said and I agree.
- Sia May 17, 2025, 4:46 pm
- All about.... - Skye May 17, 2025, 12:09 pm
- There's your problem. - Skye May 16, 2025, 12:22 pm
- For what it's worth.... - Skye May 16, 2025, 3:10 pm
- I see Graboyes suggestions as being common sense that is right for all to engage in. - TW May 16, 2025, 5:06 pm
- Wallowing in the mire? - Pikes Peak 14115 May 18, 2025, 4:21 pm
- Your problem there - greenman May 17, 2025, 7:22 am
- Exactly - Skye May 17, 2025, 8:37 am
- I do not expect civil discourse from you… - Skye May 16, 2025, 10:14 pm
- And you can offer NOTHING of value until you admit that Trump - SJW May 16, 2025, 5:26 pm
- It is totally about ideas and whose ideas are better or better received. - TW May 16, 2025, 12:56 pm
- I have a suggestion! - greenman May 16, 2025, 11:25 am
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