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How MAGA got brainwashed Posted by Skye on May 14, 2025, 6:05 pm Yeah, you guessed it... Lies, Big Lies, and More Lies, over and over and over... The science behind the right wing's 50 year propaganda campaign from 'tax cuts for the rich produce prosperity for all' to 'immigrants being more likely to commit crimes' to 'minimum wage increases and unions causing significant inflation' to 'dead people voting or people voting multiple times' to 'guns related to safety' to 'secularism vs religion' and now to 'tariffs will produce wealth' and 'surrendering Ukraine to Russia will bring about peace'....... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-maga-got-brainwashed-the-science-behind-the-right-wing-s-50-year-propaganda-campaign-opinion/ar-AA1EL86N?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=125f072ac2104eb08f86c4b2d1506b26&ei=23

They think they're being persecuted Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on May 14, 2025, 9:33 pm, in reply to "How MAGA got brainwashed" They think all the woke and things they identify as liberal are persecuting them, and are out to destroy them. They love trump because he is, they believe, fighting on their behalf. He is tearing the libs and dems apart the same way they hope Jesus would, to stop their persecution ... like obedience to laws they don't like, like environmental laws that protect something. That's their persecution? It has been festering for years. It's now an angry carbuncle. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

Somehow…. Posted by Skye on May 15, 2025, 12:29 am, in reply to "They think they're being persecuted" Valued Poster It seems more like they were upset that they were no longer allowed to persecute and discriminate against others like in the good old days, when it was perfectly normal and acceptable to treat ‘others’… like blacks, gays, women… as ‘less than’ and call them names, pay them less, or whatever. Trump gave them permission to act like him and thus somehow feel better about themselves by putting others down…. getting rid of PC, DEI, equal rights for women, gays, etc.

I think you are stuck in a 1960s time warp. Posted by TW on May 16, 2025, 5:39 pm, in reply to "Somehow…." Valued Poster Those things do not exist on any level and haven't for years. For one thing, there are laws against most everything you mentioned. The legal penalties and lawsuits are stiff enough to dissuade most from engaging in them. And even if the penalties were not enough, the general public would hound them back into the caves those types of people came from.

You mean the time warp.... Posted by Skye on May 17, 2025, 9:53 am, in reply to "I think you are stuck in a 1960s time warp." Valued Poster that 'your side' wants to take us BACK to?? To MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN??

Someone’s in a time warp, alright. Posted by greenman on May 16, 2025, 8:51 pm, in reply to "I think you are stuck in a 1960s time warp." 1930’s Germany, in your case. -greenman

That's it exactly Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on May 15, 2025, 11:48 am, in reply to "Somehow…." ADMIN RFK jr ignored the signage warning the water was contaminated with E coli from untreated raw sewage. He and his went swimming in it anyway. Damned signage and regulations. What is it with the Kennedys and self destruction of reputation involving "water?" Ted valiently tried to save the girl. Chappaquiddick Beach Club. What is it with their public party behavior? Every winter they rent a condo at the base of Aspen Mountain and while there, absolutely trash the place and make assholes of themselves. They abuse serve and wait staff, disrespect others' rights to property, peace and quiet, to the extent they're absolutely HATED in Aspen... by EVERYONE! Their drinking, sex, and vandalism of property is out of control, and nobody can do anything because they're the Kennedys. RFK jr is a MAGA republican. They all should be. The MAGA GOP put money above the needs and lives of people. So do the Kennedys. The mass firings carried out by trump, and make no mistake doge is his baby, not musk's, is not only inefficient, it is dangerous. Those people are largely specialists with expertise in fields that can't be casually filled by cheaper people, or done away with altogether. They keep the airways safe, our foods and medicines safe, our highways and bridges safe... it goes on and on, and they're gone. RFK jr did away with the people responsible for the signage he and his what ever they are chose to ignore. The fact their feet felt good in the muddy bottom ooze made of E coli infested fecal matter is why they ignored the signs and did it anyway. The water didn't LOOK dirty and contaminated. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

RFK Jr and many in the younger generation of Kennedy's are like that. but certainly not ALL Posted by Sia on May 15, 2025, 2:33 pm, in reply to "That's it exactly" ADMIN of them. Caroline's kids are respectful. So are many of her cousin's kids. All it takes is a few really bad ones to make people think they are all the same.

When disrespectful Kennedys do this in the presence and with respectful ones Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on May 16, 2025, 12:33 pm, in reply to "RFK Jr and many in the younger generation of Kennedy's are like that. but certainly not ALL" ADMIN and the respectful ones don't do something about it, then they're all just as bad. This has been going on in Aspen since I was a kid. I first heard about it about 1970. My climbing partner Jim was slugged in the stomach by a Kennedy body guard when he allegedly got too close to a Kennedy in the outdoor mall. I was there. Jim grabbing the final horn on Sunlight Spire July 1975 They, the Kennedys pay for the physical damage. But they do it every year, like it's their right. Imo there is no compensation for the personal abuse through which they put working people trying to do their jobs. Most of those workers don't live in Aspen. Can't afford it. They live in Glenwood, 50 miies west, Rifle 80 miles west, and Parachute 100 miles west and commute. These are the cooks, chefs, hotel staff, ski area staff, lift operators, shuttle drivers... You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

You know the Kennedy family is enormous, right? Posted by Sia on May 16, 2025, 3:28 pm, in reply to "When disrespectful Kennedys do this in the presence and with respectful ones" ADMIN Only some of them go on those yearly trips.

Nobody in my family ever did anything like that. Posted by Pikes Peak 14115 on May 16, 2025, 7:24 pm, in reply to "You know the Kennedy family is enormous, right? " Did anyone in yours? I don't know how many Kennedys descend on Aspen. Its a lot. I mean dozens. Don't know how many condos they rent. Might be enough to rent several floors. Jim was slugged well below the belt. I mean well below the belt, and he was in pain for hours. It was totally unexpected, so he didn't have time to protect himself. We were minding our own business in Ute Mountaineering, a climbing store at the outdoor mall. We didn't know who those people were until after the fact. Two big men came up on each side of Jim and hooked his arms. A third man stept in front of him, told him to leave, and then it was over, except Jim was doubling over, almost crumpling to the floor. We... he should have filed assault charges. Knowing then what we know now, we would. He would. I bet it might make "national" news now. Absolutely outrageous and indefensible. It really soured my opinion of the family. I know that may be unfair. But none of them ever offered the slightest hint of an apology. Like it didn't happen, and people like us either don't exist, or aren't worth talking to/with. You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony

I feel it started with Limbaugh Posted by greenman on May 14, 2025, 7:09 pm, in reply to "How MAGA got brainwashed" Valued Poster …and then was magnified by the evil influence of Murdoch. And of course the Republicans became the Party of Lies at some point.. -greenman

Yeah, he was a real piece of work Posted by Skye on May 16, 2025, 3:22 pm, in reply to "I feel it started with Limbaugh" Valued Poster He got rich off of selling hate and lies, and he started a trend.

God I hated that man Posted by Trish on May 15, 2025, 7:50 am, in reply to "I feel it started with Limbaugh" Admin and as horrid as it sounds was glad to hear of his death

I despised him too. Posted by Sia on May 16, 2025, 3:30 pm, in reply to "God I hated that man" ADMIN I didn't feel joy at his death, but relief that he was no longer spewing his lies. A few of my nieces and nephews used to listen to his shows and bought into his lies. I felt relief when he could no longer poison their beliefs.

He was awful. Posted by greenman on May 15, 2025, 9:01 am, in reply to "God I hated that man" Valued Poster He OKayed lying by Cons, made it accepted, even respectable. Taunting ‘th’ Libs’ was sport to him. As were fake outrage and hypocrisy. -greenman

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