to my spewing! I agree that both are relevant and neither can serve as rigid methods for effective communication.

This reminds me of the not unrelated fact that hand signs, too, are variously interpreted throughout the world. When misunderstood they’ve been known to create havoc.

I must say I bring my understanding to Duchamps’ attempts here to be saying: “I leave everything to your understanding”. I realize others may think “Oh, there’s going to be an oil can needed here”.

Sara, thanks for bringing actual discussion here. I always think of you fondly and wish you the best in Japan.