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Fox is live broadcasting Charlie Kirk's memorial..

Posted by scott on September 21, 2025, 1:03 pm

You can miss the politics...but if you're missing the message of Jesus...

I pray your ears be opened and eyes be made to see ..

Jesus is the only reason Kirk gave for the work and life he led.

Charlie Kirk cremated. RIP.

Posted by GOG on September 26, 2025, 11:59 am, in reply to "Fox is live broadcasting Charlie Kirk's memorial.."

Over the top.

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 22, 2025, 10:49 am, in reply to "Fox is live broadcasting Charlie Kirk's memorial.."

Yes murder is wrong. The way people are acting you’d think Chuckie was the second coming of Christ.

My view was more modest...thought of Joan of Arc

Posted by Mugwump on September 23, 2025, 1:13 pm, in reply to "Over the top."

But with these snake handlers, nothing is too extreme.

your view?

Posted by scott on September 26, 2025, 1:50 pm, in reply to "My view was more modest...thought of Joan of Arc"

You and your flock of ducks just land and take dumps on any serious talks of faith... kinda makes you a quack really.

Only a fool hears God then decides to do otherwise...

Jesus is calling you ..but you remain lodged in this dead world's grip.

is-there-truth-in-you?

Posted by scott on September 23, 2025, 12:59 pm, in reply to "Over the top."

I-watched-it-from-beginning-to-end...did-you?

Here's-an-eyewitness-account..

Check the following out:
Today, I went to the Charlie Kirk memorial. While the internet is plastered with pictures and news outlets are sharing clips, I’m confident that there will be those—podcasters, journalists, influencers and critics—who have their fair share of negativity to spread about the day. Gossip sells, after all, so here’s what it was actually like…from someone who was there.
We stood in line in a parking lot in Arizona for five hours. These weren’t straight orderly lines. These were MASSES of people, standing shoulder to shoulder. Inching along. It was hot and muggy. And the majority of people were dressed in “Sunday best.” Suit jackets, long pants, heels. You name it. The opportunity for frustration and exhaustion was EASY. But we painstakingly made our way to the front of the line and these are the things that stood out:
Everyone was polite. Genuine manners. I didn’t register a single curse word all day, and I was surrounded by THOUSANDS of people. They were gracious. They were encouraging, They were positive.
They weren’t speaking poorly about political rivals. They were sharing about their families and where they were from. I met three families from Arizona. Everyone else I spoke to was from Texas, California, Michigan, Wyoming, Montana, Oklahoma, and France. Yes, France.
I watched someone in a wheelchair GET UP and offer her chair to another who needed it more in that moment. I watched people share food and water. I watched people sing and laugh and celebrate. I watched people let others ahead of them in line to catch up with family. I watched a young father race away from his wife and three small children to attend to an emergency medical need until first responders could arrive. I watched respect toward law enforcement and those who were working the event.
I watched the purest form of patriotism. No bullying. No hatred. And that was just in the parking lot.
Once inside, I watched worshippers. 60,000 patriots on their feet, some out of courtesy, but more out of adoration. Hands and voices raised. I watched speaker after speaker proclaim the name of Jesus, openly and without hesitation. I watched hundreds stand to their feet to accept Christ as their Savior. I watched people pray over complete strangers. I watched mommas rock babies and grown men shake hands.
But then I watched a widow take the stage. She wore the grief of the wounded and the confidence of a lioness. She was both vulnerable and fierce. Broken and brave. And in that stadium, I watched utter stillness fall upon the crowd. 60,000 attendees sat captivated in a way that can only be explained as supernatural. The silence was deafening.
And then her commitment. “I forgive him.” Spoken over the young man who took her husband’s life. The one who murdered her children’s father. “I forgive him.”
I watched her eyes look up to Heaven as if begging God…and Charlie…for the strength to utter the words. The statement wrapped us each in a weighted blanket, heavy with the sheer redemption of the moment. And I watched as everyone stood to their feet. Not with a thunderous roar, but in acknowledgment of our own need to forgive…and be forgiven. No one cheered. Just a very long…very poignant…applause. And tears.
The videos don’t capture it. They can’t. It was as if Jesus Himself was hovering in that service today. And those moments don’t always transcend airwaves.
Today, I went to the Charlie Kirk memorial. You’ll be told stories of what it was like. You can digest the drama if you want. But there are 60,000 of us who know what really happened. And it was holy.

Do you want to know what a person is about?

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 25, 2025, 9:42 am, in reply to "is-there-truth-in-you?"

It’s easy to play nice with people you agree with. But how do they treat their enemies? No I didn’t watch the whole thing. I wasn’t interested in politicians using Charlie’s murder to get in front of the camera. Mid-terms are coming. They better polish up their tarnished halos.

I see dead people

Posted by scott on September 26, 2025, 1:46 pm, in reply to "Do you want to know what a person is about?"

All the time ..here, there ..everywhere .

If seeing is believing...the historical evidence of witnesses with Jesus is enough.
There's miracles.
There's also archeology.
There's changed lives.

I see dead people...

Bruce Willis..Many of M. Knight Schyamalon movies deal with supernatural..people watch this usually there's some underlying belief in it.

Bruce Willis was in one of them.

The movie Bruce Willis was in with director M. Night Shyamalan was The Sixth Sense. Released in 1999, this psychological thriller stars Bruce Willis as a child psychologist trying to help a young boy who can see and communicate with dead people, leading to one of the most famous twist endings in film history

The small boy is telling Bruce Willis, who is a detective, he See's dead people .but Willis doesn't know he's actually addressing him until the last part of the movie.

Ever wonder how Jesus saw us, spiritually speaking? He who could see man and angels? His goal was to bring us home .. make us born again, alive in our spirits to know him and his presence in our lives.

Bible references about with being alive to God and dead to this world are everywhere in the new testament.

2 Corinthians 5:17: Emphasizes that being "in Christ" results in becoming a "new creation".
Ephesians 2:4–5: States that God, out of mercy and love, made us "alive together with Christ" even when we were spiritually dead.
Colossians 2:13: Echoes the idea that God made those who were dead in trespasses "alive together with him".
Galatians 2:20: Paul describes living by faith in the Son of God because Christ lives in him.
Romans 6:4: Connects baptism with being raised to "walk in newness of life".
Romans 8:10–11: Explains that if Christ is in you, the Spirit brings life.
Titus 3:5: Mentions being saved by the "washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit".

His disciples got their first dose of being alive with Jesus doing signs and wonders ..

Peter hauling in the fish, the loaves of bread, his sermons moving otherwise unmovable people. His voice asking them to "follow me". Three years they were with him and there was always a progression in their faith. That's how it works for anyone

While Jesus healed many, the scriptures use the term "made whole" in specific instances, suggesting a more complete, spiritual healing. This was often said in response to an individual's faith.
The woman with the issue of blood: After suffering from a chronic bleeding condition for 12 years, a woman touched Jesus's cloak in the hope of being healed. When she did, the bleeding stopped. Jesus turned to her and said, "Daughter, your faith has made you well (or whole)". (Matthew 9:20–22)
The ten lepers: Jesus cleansed ten lepers, but only one, a Samaritan, returned to thank him. Jesus told the grateful man, "Rise and go; your faith has made you well (or whole)". (Luke 17:11–19)
The man at the Pool of Bethesda: Jesus healed a man who had been disabled for 38 years. Later, Jesus found the man and warned him, "See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you". (John 5:1–15)

I see dead people, the young boy told Willis...

...what do you see?

I think so too.

Posted by Dancing Digits on September 22, 2025, 8:13 pm, in reply to "Over the top."

But people are free to do so.

welcome to results of Christian martyrdom

Posted by observer on September 22, 2025, 2:33 pm, in reply to "Over the top."

People recognize the value of Charlie’s efforts and his results.
people can be killed, but some ideas can’t. People who really love freedom tend to seek its source. Charlie showed them. Others, not so much!

yeah...the dead like being that way for some reason ..

Posted by scott on September 26, 2025, 1:55 pm, in reply to "welcome to results of Christian martyrdom"

But Jesus came to give life and light... I'm betting not a single one of these posters signalling their hatred, have even once watched any Charlie Kirk debate.

And they think they are so intelligent and knowledgeable about spiritual affairs.. they flock like geese to crap all over these kinds posts, guess being fos in the first place has its byproducts.

hope you're barefoot, in the kitchen, servicing your husband and submitting

Posted by trish on September 22, 2025, 2:34 pm, in reply to "welcome to results of Christian martyrdom"

LOLS:-)).

Posted by GOG on September 22, 2025, 6:28 pm, in reply to "hope you're barefoot, in the kitchen, servicing your husband and submitting"

Re: hope you're barefoot, in the kitchen, servicing your husband and submitting

Posted by observer on September 22, 2025, 5:00 pm, in reply to "hope you're barefoot, in the kitchen, servicing your husband and submitting"

What non believers can NEVER comprehend is the Biblical idea of submission (vs their own harsh notion of it) and the joy that people in a Bible believing church, who seek to live godly lives, and the role of the entire congregation including pastors and staff of being submissive to God and his plan for Christian families. We are not depressed Mormon women. We have no cruel abusive husbands (I’m talking about the godly, not the situations that might include ungodly).

Our Bible believing church is really like the most perfect, though not perfect, example of ordinary people with extraordinary love for each other, Godly love that brings out the best in people, not the worst. People struggle with their brokenness, supported by staff and friends, plenty of effective counseling when people need guidance and support, humble leadership, generous membership, humanity at its best,if not absolutely perfect best. It is true that there’s absolutely nowhere I’d rather be than among them.

As for my husband, it’s easy to submit to a loving man! Does that mean there’s never any friction? No, but that means When we both consider what pleases God, amazingly issue resolved.

But this joyous living isn’t usually an overnight happening. The Christian life is not a one time event, It’s a lifetime journey. I’m so glad I’m able to make it. That’s why I wish it for everyone.

And it makes me think that one way of understanding the

Posted by observer on September 22, 2025, 5:28 pm, in reply to "Re: hope you're barefoot, in the kitchen, servicing your husband and submitting"

differences between most Godly people and most, at least the noisiest, of the ungodly can be boiled down to the difference in how they think humanity should be. One believes in absolute uniformity of thought, the ungodly when it comes to government. Whereas the Godly understand the necessity for unity, that ability to think together though differing, and work it through successfully. Truth be told, the success of that depends on God.

That’s why this America, this democracy is called an experiment.
The founders understood. They understood that freedom cannot come from men/ government, only from God. But men can and must honor and protect it. In, the end it’s spiritual warfare, the battle between good and evil.

Truth be told, the war was won when our crucified Jesus rose fron the dead, our resurrected Christ, proof that sin/evil had lost.
But the battles continue. There are still those who have never heard of Jesus or their need to confess their sin, repent of it, ask for forgiveness and get to spend eternity in the kingdom of God.

That’s why Charlie worked so hard asking questions of young people to get them to think, to own what they believed not to be indoctrinated, but to use their God given freedom to choose.

Not everyone wants that. Understood!

It’s interesting how these pagans, atheists, agnostics, etc. can bash

Posted by GOG on September 23, 2025, 7:13 am, in reply to "And it makes me think that one way of understanding the"

Christianity but I’m not suppose to criticize them (pagan comes to mind). But I forgive each and everyone.

It’s interesting how you’ll say that but laugh at Trish’s barefoot remark to observer.

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 23, 2025, 9:27 am, in reply to "It’s interesting how these pagans, atheists, agnostics, etc. can bash "

You like trolling.

When the boards are your life, it doesn't matter what you say

Posted by Mugwump on September 23, 2025, 1:16 pm, in reply to "It’s interesting how you’ll say that but laugh at Trish’s barefoot remark to observer."

as long as you get to say something, however fooilish or incoherent.

I can hold up to criticism if you actually know what a Pagan is

Posted by trish on September 23, 2025, 7:42 am, in reply to "It’s interesting how these pagans, atheists, agnostics, etc. can bash "

and what they stand for.

First, I apologize. That was tacky and inappropriate

Posted by Trish on September 22, 2025, 5:12 pm, in reply to "Re: hope you're barefoot, in the kitchen, servicing your husband and submitting"

I am not feeling terribly well right now and its coming out in my reactions.

I at least understand the "journey" part of your beliefs. I find my understanding of the divine, the song of the spheres to which the whol cosmos dances, the interwoven energy of all things always growing. But those ideas are big. God is BIG. As much as it would make things easier, we can't box in the Divine since we are seeing a very tiny part of the picture

Thank you, Trish.

Posted by observer on September 22, 2025, 5:50 pm, in reply to "First, I apologize. That was tacky and inappropriate"

And I’m sorry you’re not feeling well. Really wouldn’t want you to feel worse.

And I do agree with you about how Big God is. And I think some may put Him in a box and jump right in there with Him, shrinking both of them.

Where we differ I think is in our sourcing. I believe in God’s Word, not just as a written document of some men who lived a long time ago, but as Holy Scriptures authored by the Holy Spirit. I also believe that it is the power of God in the world. Some people think of earthquakes and volcanoes as God’s power, but they are wimpy compared to the power of God expressed in His Word.

There are difficulties, of course. A belief in materialism does not allow for super natural power.

There is the problem of evil.

Then there is what might be the most difficult problem, that of hermeneutics, or interpretation, from the ignorant thinking that believers can survive the venom of a poisonous snake to the tradition bound who think contemporary events trump God’s Word, and all kinds of queries in between. So, in the end, it becomes obvious to the believer we have to trust our relationship with God to inform us. And that means unity, not uniformity. It also means our fundamental beliefs cannot contradict His Word.

I do digress, but in it all, forgive me if I make you feel bad. It’s not my intent. I really feel like I want to challenge ideas, including, my own, not people. I definitely need to be more like Charlie who modeled Christ’s behavior. The Bible is quite clear that God loves each of us! After all, that’s why Jesus died.

seriously

Posted by trish on September 22, 2025, 1:10 pm, in reply to "Over the top."

and how about those files?

Yes. And how Ironic so many suspect Israel (Mossad) as the culprit.

Posted by YGOG on September 21, 2025, 3:56 pm, in reply to "Fox is live broadcasting Charlie Kirk's memorial.."

Security

Israel isn’t going to bite the hand that feeds it especially since

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 22, 2025, 10:53 am, in reply to "Yes. And how Ironic so many suspect Israel (Mossad) as the culprit."

There are more Palestinians for them to kill.

snap out of it...

Posted by scott on September 21, 2025, 6:05 pm, in reply to "Yes. And how Ironic so many suspect Israel (Mossad) as the culprit."

Good Lord! That’s not my post.

Posted by GOG on September 22, 2025, 3:57 pm, in reply to "snap out of it... "

But genocide is the operative term.

So that’s not your post.

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 25, 2025, 10:16 am, in reply to "Good Lord! That’s not my post."

I thought lying was a sin. Genocide? Israel has a lot to answer for. They think God is in their pocket. Arrogant little tyrants.

You are being absurd. Israel does NOT assassinate allies & supporters.

Posted by DFM on September 21, 2025, 5:43 pm, in reply to "Yes. And how Ironic so many suspect Israel (Mossad) as the culprit."

He’s really not consistent

Posted by observer on September 21, 2025, 7:50 pm, in reply to "You are being absurd. Israel does NOT assassinate allies & supporters."

in that he conflates conspiracy theories, Biblical prophecy and personal opinion in such a way that rational thought is impossible

That is not my post. Ken, please prove it.

Posted by GOG on September 22, 2025, 3:58 pm, in reply to "He’s really not consistent"

The " YGOG" post was form the same computer that "GOG" uses.

Posted by Ken (Admin) on September 22, 2025, 9:44 pm, in reply to "That is not my post. Ken, please prove it. "
Board Administrator

Could it have been a neighbor, or cat running across the keyboard.

Mice:-(. It’s mine.

Posted by GOG on September 23, 2025, 7:36 am, in reply to "The " YGOG" post was form the same computer that "GOG" uses. "

And since it is I proudly own it. What’s happening IS genocide. Am I judging it? Not exactly. But it’s a truth and should be consciously acknowledged. I wrestle with the my Christian beliefs and my support of Gods Chosen Peopoe. Charlie Kirk was going through a metamorphism with his utter support for Israel to recently questioning his Christian principles vs the Palestinian slaughter. Further he was dealing with his belief that October 7 was a false flag op. He was a Mossad creation in the sense that Israel was the major donor ($80,000,000) according to reports. It is said by those in the know that Kirk was offered another $150,000,000 from the Israeli prime minister. ‘Stay on course, don’t flip on us.’ Tucker Carlson and others say this is so. Was that a motive to blow away the good man? Well, as my video posts have proven Tyler Robinson was not the killer. The actual assassin was right in front ten feet away. Thus it’s not a left or right issue. Rather a security setup. The shooter was a security team member. Further I’ve seen footage of lots of hand signals among the team seconds before the sub sonic sound of the palm pistol. It’s all recorded.

Maybe your god is watching you wanting to know

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 23, 2025, 9:33 am, in reply to "Mice:-(. It’s mine."

If you will continue to support the Palestinian killing machine. Think of it as a test. You just might be failing it.

Booooooooring!

Posted by KR on September 21, 2025, 3:34 pm, in reply to "Fox is live broadcasting Charlie Kirk's memorial.."

You’ve been politely asked to quit with the insults.

Posted by observer on September 21, 2025, 7:46 pm, in reply to "Booooooooring!"

Are you the board nanny?

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 25, 2025, 9:46 am, in reply to "You’ve been politely asked to quit with the insults."

Some people are saying Charlie gave his life to get the public’s eye off of Epstein case

Posted by Lucky on September 22, 2025, 11:23 am, in reply to "You’ve been politely asked to quit with the insults."

Well that is what is going around anyway

That means that Charlie thought the Orange One guilty.

Posted by The GateKeeper on September 23, 2025, 9:52 am, in reply to "Some people are saying Charlie gave his life to get the public’s eye off of Epstein case"

Some people are dumb.

Posted by GOG on September 22, 2025, 3:49 pm, in reply to "Some people are saying Charlie gave his life to get the public’s eye off of Epstein case"

Charlie understood what those people needed to change their

Posted by observer on September 22, 2025, 2:29 pm, in reply to "Some people are saying Charlie gave his life to get the public’s eye off of Epstein case"

negative way of looking at life, thinking themselves wise.

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