I really like Newsom, but agree he has flaws
an the California stink always frightens me. At the end of the day, Newsom acts presidential and I think people want that. A Newsom/AOC ticket actually excites me.  Previous Message He has flaws and the California thing will likely hurt, but I'm starting to think Newsom is the Dems best shot in 28. He's a strong voice, defends himself well and doesn't apologize for it. Also a straight white man (who just happens to look like a movie villain, but I digress). I've harped on this before but Trump's campaign is built around 3-4 primary objectives that take no more than 4 or 5 words a piece (Build the Wall, etc.). he can ramble about Diet Coke and Vanity Fair magazine at his rallies, yet everyone knows what his deal is because his platform is easy to understand. Dems need to do that yesterday. Something like FDR's second bill of rights. Short and simple, and then get into the weeds when you need to. Previous Message and then gets smoked in the general. Previous Message We either stuff affordable education, health care and transportation down peoples' throats or we'll get president jd vance and "send them back, Part II". The Bill Clintons and Jim Clyburns of the world aren't going to save us, or help win elections. Kamala (and by proxy, Bidenism) got absolutely waxed last year, and I certainly don't think it was because she was too extreme. The President is extremely extreme! I think the choice now is socialism vs. fascism. Pick one. Previous Message If he gets elected, it's going to be very bad for New York, and it also could be a really bad harbinger for the general direction of the primaries, which sets up a whole bunch of candidates who are too extreme to win an open election. Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message and charismatic. I'm not sure how the grocery store thing will (or won't) work, but free buses is great. Get those nasty ass cars off the street! Previous Message Previous Message Previous Message I just don’t get it. Previous Message
Probably Zohran Mamdani. Paperboy Love Prince as alternate choice?
Which means it will just come from some other form of a tax. The grocery idea is just plain fucking stupid.
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 Who does Turki want to win NYC Dem primary? - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 8:40:33
- I’m glad Mamdani won - AintHatin June 25, 2025, 18:53:01
- Trump can't even pretend to not be racist - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:44:57
- Your image makes it look like two candidates are Ass Moly Men. - illini June 25, 2025, 13:21:08
- The people melting down over Mamdani should tell you this is a good thing* - HeatMizer June 25, 2025, 12:25:55
- Are we finally getting to the point of viable third party territory?* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:02:04
- I’m really disappointed in you people * - biclops June 25, 2025, 11:32:11
- Except me, of course.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:47:41
- I wish it was Lander or Stringer. A liberal but with experience running things* - JacobRDaugherty June 25, 2025, 11:39:50
- No - biclops June 25, 2025, 13:00:39
- As someone who works in New York and used to live there - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:42:58
- Too bad centrism is dead* - bjl63 June 25, 2025, 11:52:08
- gonna have to fix the widening class gap to bring it back* - assassin June 25, 2025, 12:23:32
- The “widening class gap” is probably most evident in largely Democrat big cities. - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 12:50:54
- Centrists have for years preached that being moderate and letting the system work will help - John Coctostan June 25, 2025, 12:48:39
- I've been saying for a while that there needs to be a left leaning version of the Tea Party - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:31:39
- You're all over the place here. You're pining for a leftist Tea Party, and also a centrist 3rd party - IlliniRunner June 25, 2025, 12:44:10
- I want a left center moderate governance - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:52:30
- Need a 3rd middle party that needs to pull from either side to govern* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:10:58
- american left center or real left center?* - torinese June 25, 2025, 16:08:43
- So basically a democrat party that tells far left "progressives" to eff off* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes June 25, 2025, 13:08:32
- I'm sorry, but whatever faults the Dems have (which I think you are overstating) - IlliniRunner June 25, 2025, 13:00:58
- I want a center-right party. Until recently, I was spoiled for choice.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:00:42
- dotz - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:02:54
- This stuff fluctuates through history. The world will calm down and it'll come back.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:58:16
- Government run grocery stores and free public busses? - Sounder June 25, 2025, 9:45:15
- Yeah. Government run liquor stores are so big government. Where are those at? - SurfTheBoneyard June 25, 2025, 10:26:21
- I’m right there with you Sounder* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 10:20:48
- fuck off, man* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 10:47:49
- flashing warning sign to reevaluate* - VIV June 25, 2025, 10:58:57
- fuck off to you as well* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:01:32
- you gonna call the cops on me for harassment?* - VIV June 25, 2025, 11:04:58
- that's a good one - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:08:13
- don't worry. there will be more. * - VIV June 25, 2025, 11:23:24
- You want government to operate grocery stores but not keep the peace? - complainant June 25, 2025, 11:40:11
- ..................wat* - VIV June 25, 2025, 11:49:19
- Oh, this isn't policy-based? You just enjoy making fun of someone who's been the victim of ongoing - complainant June 25, 2025, 11:52:21
- ooo - VIV June 25, 2025, 12:54:09
- Tell us your address. We'll send some kids to vandalize it whenever they want. - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:06:17
- No one here takes ypu seriously either*
 - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:59:38
- LOL* - VIV June 25, 2025, 13:13:40
- ROTFLLMAO* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:20:08
- WTFBBQ - IlliniSax05 June 25, 2025, 13:22:08
- probably* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:26:52
- Such extravagance lol.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 9:48:00
- You don't get the latter in an expensive city with a substantial working class?* - ATL June 25, 2025, 9:46:01
- I don't like either of the top 2 candidates but it's amazing to watch the meltdown on twitter* - ECEIllinois June 25, 2025, 0:31:26
- Is Cuomo gonna run in the general? I’m also curious if Adams can pull this out* - CanHartlebHireSnider June 24, 2025, 22:28:31
- Mamdani wins* - Carl Spackler June 24, 2025, 22:27:31
- Dear Jeff Frank, - Toonces June 24, 2025, 21:05:36
- ooo - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 21:00:25
- Why do we need multiple political threads? - biclops June 24, 2025, 9:01:27
- Go Big Z!* - Warrin'_Illini June 24, 2025, 8:46:25
- why would he or anyone here that doesn't live in NYC care who wins the NYC mayor?* - VIV June 24, 2025, 8:45:30
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