The Deuce: I am very interested to see how he governs. Not a stooge like Let’s go Brandon*

Who does Turki want to win NYC Dem primary? - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 8:40:33

I’m glad Mamdani won - AintHatin June 25, 2025, 18:53:01
- Evergreen tweet - ECEIllinois June 25, 2025, 22:40:49
Trump can't even pretend to not be racist - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:44:57
- Where’s the racist part? I must be missing something* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 21:36:23
- Say what you will about his policies, but this is just objectively false - ECEIllinois June 25, 2025, 18:19:06
  - He kind of has a Roy Kent thing going on* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 18:57:39
  - Agreed.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 18:42:47
  - He’s not white - illini thunder June 25, 2025, 18:41:54
    - It’s also Trump projection* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 18:58:10
Your image makes it look like two candidates are Ass Moly Men. - illini June 25, 2025, 13:21:08
- Study dermaproctology.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 16:22:06
The people melting down over Mamdani should tell you this is a good thing* - HeatMizer June 25, 2025, 12:25:55
Are we finally getting to the point of viable third party territory?* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:02:04
- No because all that does is cause the party they break off of to lose. - SurfTheBoneyard June 25, 2025, 12:57:28
  - Honest question out of curiosity: Cuomo goes 3rd party in the general: the GOP guy would win?? - osklister June 25, 2025, 17:25:54
    - There is a 0% chance Curtis Sliwa is winning. If Cuomo runs it’s a four way race* - CanHartlebHireSnider June 25, 2025, 17:32:13
      - Got it. I didn't know who the GOP candidate is. JMHO, but it seems like a great chance for a GOPer - osklister June 25, 2025, 17:45:45
        
        The next mayor will be either Zohran, Cuomo, or Adams with heavy odds on Zohran - CanHartlebHireSnider June 25, 2025, 17:49:27
        
        Who's taking the Orthodox and Hasidic vote? - complainant June 25, 2025, 18:41:03
      - I think a different Republican could win, but not the beret wearing Hell's Angels guy* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:36:56
        
        Sure but Sliwa is the GOP nominee* - CanHartlebHireSnider June 25, 2025, 17:39:24
        
        Guardian Angels * - haighter June 25, 2025, 17:37:40
        
        Tomato, tomahto* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:38:31
        
        Not....really...* - haighter June 25, 2025, 17:39:31
        
        I know what the difference is, I think they're both stupid* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:54:05
        
        They're polar opposites.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 17:57:40
        
        It's a circle with these vigilante groups* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:58:40
        
        Neither is a vigilante group. This may be the source of your confusion.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 18:55:33
        
        That's cute* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 21:03:04
  - And give one of the big parties a filibuster proof majority* - Carl Spackler June 25, 2025, 13:20:09
  - Go ahead, throw your vote away - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:01:50
- I think that will never happen.* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes June 25, 2025, 12:17:47
  - I'm actually starting to think that it will - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:55:06
    - “Sounder… party of one? Your table is ready.”* - SurfTheBoneyard June 25, 2025, 12:59:31
      - There's a club for that, we meet at the bar* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:00:32
- No. No we are not.* - Carl Spackler June 25, 2025, 12:16:33
  - If it didn't happen with Trump and the GOP, zero chance it happens here. - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 13:38:25
    - Well well well look who finally opened the thread. Welcome* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:00:15
    - I think the Mamdani thing is an aberration and you’ll just see Dems move to the middle. - Carl Spackler June 25, 2025, 15:44:18
      - I am very interested to see how he governs. Not a stooge like Let’s go Brandon* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:01:51
    - What does Bernie mean to you? It's just redistribution of wealth, right? - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:51:20
I’m really disappointed in you people * - biclops June 25, 2025, 11:32:11
- Except me, of course.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:47:41
- I wish it was Lander or Stringer. A liberal but with experience running things* - JacobRDaugherty June 25, 2025, 11:39:50
  - No - biclops June 25, 2025, 13:00:39
    - Sounds like you need to ban The Frankenblaster.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 13:19:40
  - As someone who works in New York and used to live there - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:42:58
    - Too bad centrism is dead* - bjl63 June 25, 2025, 11:52:08
      - gonna have to fix the widening class gap to bring it back* - assassin June 25, 2025, 12:23:32
        
        The “widening class gap” is probably most evident in largely Democrat big cities. - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 12:50:54
        
        Serious question to an unserious person - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:53:37
        
        Probably because they don’t get enough votes. - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 13:07:53
        
        My point is that the GOP doesn't know how to manage big city problems - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:10:12
        
        Those groups will vote for whomever will most take care of them* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 13:15:17
        
        Now you starting to get it - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:33:10
        
        Right. They put their specific agendas over the good of the country* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 13:40:41
        
        Oh man, I’d love to know how you define “the good of the country.”* - VIV June 25, 2025, 13:44:55
        
        Literal LOL, the Grand Ol' Party, party of the good of the country!* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:43:39
        
        So how did Guiliani and Bloomberg both get elected to multiple terms then? * - haighter June 25, 2025, 13:40:06
        
        New York is a different creature - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:43:01
        
        What would our reality be now if Bloomberg wasn’t knee capped by Elizabeth Warren?* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:13:44
        
        Liz had no electoral juice, Bloomberg stood no chance.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 17:41:59
        
        He would have been a great President. That he had no chance shows how effed up our Democracy is* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 17:43:23
        
        He jumped in really late iirc. I think he was there more to try to stop bernie and warren, which - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 17:59:38
        
        Man, Schultz was a disaster* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 18:04:39
        
        Disagree. Rudy and Adams got elected for law & order. - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:47:54
        
        Anyone who wanted Daniel Penny prosecuted is part of the problem* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:14:58
        
        I have no fucking idea who Daniel Perry is - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:38:08
        
        Wow. How did you avoid it?: - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 17:42:21
        
        Because my brain isn't fucking rotted like yours is* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:58:18
        
        He killed some homeless guy on the subway who was harassing passengers. - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 17:40:59
        
        I do remember the story, just didn't know his name - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:52:25
        
        Like VIV elsewhere in this thread, the people who stick their nose in these issues, - complainant June 25, 2025, 16:31:14
        
        no idea. * - VIV June 25, 2025, 16:33:03
        
        Yes, that's obvious.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 17:31:47
        
        Yeah, I’m not alone in having no idea what you’re talking about. - VIV June 25, 2025, 18:03:32
        
        I don't know what "logic" has to do with it. You taunt someone who's the victim of ongoing harassmen - complainant June 25, 2025, 18:31:05
        
        You never do.(see the inside of your post)* - VIV June 25, 2025, 21:42:35
        
        That's also fair* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:50:03
        
        Centrists have for years preached that being moderate and letting the system work will help - John Coctostan June 25, 2025, 12:48:39
        
        Ding! The message of "Just vote for us and we'll get things back to the way they were".. - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 13:43:21
        
        Serious question, as I respect your opinion - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:45:36
        
        You have Little Bitch agreeing with you, and reading the rest of your posts in this thread... - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 14:04:57
        
        C’mon guys. Try to get along with each other. Everything will be ok* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 14:17:14
        
        All righty then, thanks for playing, so much for the olive branch* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:06:40
        
        I'm not fighting with you, I'm just pointing out the basis of your statement is false. - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 14:08:31
        
        that's the fucking problem, I'm not even sure what "Dems like you" even means anymore - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:10:46
        
        I'm a Progressive Dem on my good days... - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 14:21:23
        
        Thoughts on why David Hogg was replaced?* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:05:32
        
        I truly don't know what the answer is, and it feels hopeless sometimes - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:24:41
        
        Just like in governing, no one should get 100% of what they want... - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 14:30:16
        
        Do you think that they don't have seats at the table? - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:33:22
        
        Look...the thing I dislike about all stripes of political absolutists... - haighter June 25, 2025, 14:43:36
        
        Agreed.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 17:37:11
        
        AOC lost being the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.. - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 14:39:29
        
        I really like AOC - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:40:40
        
        The behavior of other squad members has hurt her* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:09:05
        
        As an unbiased observer, it’s pretty clear that he despises your type of Democrat. I’m just sayin* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 14:19:49
        
        ^^^this was meant to be a reply to KingTalkyTiki* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 14:25:47
        
        As an unbiased observer - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:21:05
        
        Now this is a good observation. * - assassin June 25, 2025, 14:33:48
        
        Lower taxes on the working class would do all three of those things* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 13:50:16
        
        chino?* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:50:41
        
        I've been saying for a while that there needs to be a left leaning version of the Tea Party - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:31:39
        
        You're all over the place here. You're pining for a leftist Tea Party, and also a centrist 3rd party - IlliniRunner June 25, 2025, 12:44:10
        
        I want a left center moderate governance - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:52:30
        
        Need a 3rd middle party that needs to pull from either side to govern* - JeffFrank June 25, 2025, 16:10:58
        
        american left center or real left center?* - torinese June 25, 2025, 16:08:43
        
        How abotu Canadian Left Center?* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 17:56:16
        
        So basically a democrat party that tells far left "progressives" to eff off* - ISeeDeadHawkeyes June 25, 2025, 13:08:32
        
        fuck your popular ideas! we're here to make nothing better and enforce existing norms! - assassin June 25, 2025, 13:13:15
        
        *Ding*...and then wonder why our ideas didn't motivate young voters... - KingTalkyTiki June 25, 2025, 13:57:43
        
        It's more complicated and nuanced than that, but yes, basically* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:10:38
        
        I'm sorry, but whatever faults the Dems have (which I think you are overstating) - IlliniRunner June 25, 2025, 13:00:58
        
        To be clear, I'm right there with you - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:02:51
        
        I want a center-right party. Until recently, I was spoiled for choice.* - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:00:42
      - dotz - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:02:54
      - This stuff fluctuates through history. The world will calm down and it'll come back.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:58:16
Government run grocery stores and free public busses? - Sounder June 25, 2025, 9:45:15
- Yeah. Government run liquor stores are so big government. Where are those at? - SurfTheBoneyard June 25, 2025, 10:26:21
  - I'm completely against government run liquor stores as well* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:07:38
  - I can’t believe all the ghouls who came out for Cuomo couldn’t push him over the top. - Toonces June 25, 2025, 10:37:16
- I’m right there with you Sounder* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 10:20:48
  - fuck off, man* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 10:47:49
    - flashing warning sign to reevaluate* - VIV June 25, 2025, 10:58:57
      - fuck off to you as well* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:01:32
        
        you gonna call the cops on me for harassment?* - VIV June 25, 2025, 11:04:58
        
        that's a good one - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:08:13
        
        don't worry. there will be more. * - VIV June 25, 2025, 11:23:24
        
        You want government to operate grocery stores but not keep the peace? - complainant June 25, 2025, 11:40:11
        
        ..................wat* - VIV June 25, 2025, 11:49:19
        
        Oh, this isn't policy-based? You just enjoy making fun of someone who's been the victim of ongoing - complainant June 25, 2025, 11:52:21
        
        ooo - VIV June 25, 2025, 12:54:09
        
        Tell us your address. We'll send some kids to vandalize it whenever they want. - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:06:17
        
        yep. satire account. only explanation.* - VIV June 25, 2025, 13:14:15
        
        You could also make fun of Taz for being homosexual. It's an easy target. - complainant June 25, 2025, 13:45:46
        
        when someone gives you the option of "are you just kidding or are you a complete fucking moron?" - VIV June 25, 2025, 16:32:23
        
        Obliviousness is the problem here. I'll agree with that much. You continue to pick at someone else's - complainant June 25, 2025, 17:30:33
        
        Oh, one of us is oblivious (nearly constantly) - VIV June 25, 2025, 18:05:17
        
        Your choice of catchphrases in dismissing this issue is just part of what tells me you aren't - complainant June 25, 2025, 18:25:22
        
        I play to the level of competition. - VIV June 25, 2025, 21:45:50
        
        lol - nice* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 22:01:27
        
        No one here takes ypu seriously either* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:59:38
        
        LOL* - VIV June 25, 2025, 13:13:40
        
        ROTFLLMAO* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:20:08
        
        WTFBBQ - IlliniSax05 June 25, 2025, 13:22:08
        
        QWERTYUIOP* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:27:30
        
        B2MABCBBD - IlliniSax05 June 25, 2025, 13:53:50
        
        C3POR2D2BB8* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 14:05:30
        
        probably* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:26:52
- Such extravagance lol.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 9:48:00
- You don't get the latter in an expensive city with a substantial working class?* - ATL June 25, 2025, 9:46:01
  - I mean, if it’s financially viable, sure, but someone has to pay for it - Sounder June 25, 2025, 9:50:15
    - Define financially viable. Or do you think every public program needs to return a profit?* - longsnapper June 25, 2025, 10:03:08
      - I'm not an expert on the matter, but I'd venture to guess - Sounder June 25, 2025, 10:42:34
        
        actually, making it free does help the speed* - torinese June 25, 2025, 10:58:46
        
        My biggest issue with Seattle is a complete lack of express trains* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:02:05
        
        Why does it matter whether public transit systems operate in the black? Do you require whatever - gvibes June 25, 2025, 10:54:58
        
        Again, my only point is that it's an expense that needs to be paid for somehow - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:06:29
        
        That wasn't my question. My question is whether you think they *should* operate in the black. - longsnapper June 25, 2025, 10:53:42
        
        It depends on what you mean by "in the black" - Sounder June 25, 2025, 10:58:04
        
        Now you're talking! Especially on corporations and the ultra rich - longsnapper June 25, 2025, 11:15:49
        
        I'll take those one by one - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:22:28
        
        you say that sports teams are a service to the community but isn't improved public transit also? - IlliniSax05 June 25, 2025, 11:35:18
        
        Frankly, the main reason the light rail exists in Seattle - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:40:56
        
        Maybe the billionaire sports franchise owners could fund transportation to their stadiums? - longsnapper June 25, 2025, 11:57:29
        
        They actually do - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:05:52
        
        But no one takes it because of the time and smell.* - longsnapper June 25, 2025, 12:09:45
        
        They have jacked up the prices of parking so badly around that area - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:11:15
        
        ooo - IlliniSax05 June 25, 2025, 10:55:53
        
        I agree with both criticisms. Nothing makes me Fascism-curious faster than libs ignoring quality of - complainant June 25, 2025, 10:50:18
    - Do you think that nobody paid for the I-5 in Seattle? It's not tolled.* - ATL June 25, 2025, 9:57:56
      - Yes, and my taxes are very high - Sounder June 25, 2025, 10:43:22
    - I think people are rightly sick of the dem establishment. Beyond the policies he's authentic, young - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 9:55:44
      - Do you think the answer to the problem is go further left?* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 10:45:06
        
        I like this guy, so I say yes.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:08:00
        
        This won't end well - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:13:49
        
        Having not paid much attention to this....wasn't Bill DeBlasio the mayor like 5 years ago? - haighter June 25, 2025, 12:11:50
        
        competely apples and oranges* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 13:06:05
        
        Donald Trump is president, fascism is here and the Dems have never been in more disarray. - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:42:42
        
        Here's my fear, AOC runs, wins the Democratic primary easily - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:47:16
        
        I don't think AOC runs yet, although I could maybe see her as VP option. - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:57:39
        
        I really like Newsom, but agree he has flaws - Sounder June 25, 2025, 12:09:36
        
        *stomps firmly on common ground* * - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 12:14:58
        
        There is no way that he does not win the general election. And, you’re right, it will be bad* - jjlocke923 June 25, 2025, 11:20:29
        
        I don't know how, but I don't think he's going to win the general election - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:23:15
        
        Curtis Sliwa is a household name in NYC. Republicans have held Gracie 2/3 of the last 30 years. - complainant June 25, 2025, 11:45:32
        
        What is Gracie? - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:48:54
        
        Gracie Mansion...where the mayor of NYC lives. * - haighter June 25, 2025, 12:26:06
        
        It wasn’t to vote for the disgraced Sex Pest - assassin June 25, 2025, 11:00:17
        
        I'll take the experienced sex pest over the green socialist all day long* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:03:07
        
        He's experienced at groping Toonces' wife and killing his grandma, apparently.* - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 11:09:54
  - Nobody pays anyway. Just make it official. * - haighter June 25, 2025, 9:47:45
I don't like either of the top 2 candidates but it's amazing to watch the meltdown on twitter* - ECEIllinois June 25, 2025, 0:31:26
- talking about things people care about (prices, rent, public transportation) matters. - John Coctostan June 25, 2025, 6:57:03
  - I have really enjoyed the Liberal/Left alliance of Mamdami and Lander. - Warrin'_Illini June 25, 2025, 8:21:06
  - I have no idea why they backed Cuomo. They had at least 3 other choices who were to the right of - ATL June 25, 2025, 8:02:36
    - yeah. knowing nothing, not backing landler seems like a very poor choice* - John Coctostan June 25, 2025, 9:42:41
- Same * - ATL June 25, 2025, 1:15:57
Is Cuomo gonna run in the general? I’m also curious if Adams can pull this out* - CanHartlebHireSnider June 24, 2025, 22:28:31
- doubt his donors want him and Adams to split votes* - ECEIllinois June 25, 2025, 0:31:53
- lol you and Nate appear to be addicted to copium - ATL June 24, 2025, 22:44:11
  - Maybe you should take a break from posting about NY* - CoronaTheirAss June 25, 2025, 6:54:26
  - What? I have no idea what Nate’s tweet from 3 days ago has anything to do with my post - CanHartlebHireSnider June 24, 2025, 22:57:16
    - The NYC dem establishment, like its pizza, is hot garbage so I guess it’s possible they support - ATL June 24, 2025, 23:04:53
      - Dems ran that “former gang member and dirty cop” 4 years ago* - CanHartlebHireSnider June 24, 2025, 23:16:18
        
        nothing to see here.* - Ari Gold June 25, 2025, 6:26:47
        
        Does ATL know that the Adams on the Dem ballot is not the incumbent? - complainant June 24, 2025, 23:21:43
        
        I do. He won’t win. * - ATL June 25, 2025, 0:30:35
        
        So who's going to win? The Zohan?* - Sounder June 25, 2025, 11:10:06
Mamdani wins* - Carl Spackler June 24, 2025, 22:27:31
Dear Jeff Frank, - Toonces June 24, 2025, 21:05:36
ooo - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 21:00:25
Why do we need multiple political threads? - biclops June 24, 2025, 9:01:27
- This is a great question. JFG?* - jjlocke923 June 24, 2025, 14:05:34
- this is the trolling thread* - VIV June 24, 2025, 9:19:17
  - Big deal to see if they learned from our Brandon Johnson debacle Turki’s created* - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 12:27:58
    - You’re such a fucking weirdo about this shit. - JFG June 24, 2025, 13:08:42
      - That's not true. Jeff is celibate.* - complainant June 24, 2025, 13:59:51
        
        "Voluntarily"* - SurfTheBoneyard June 24, 2025, 22:05:38
        
        LOL* - PapaDels June 24, 2025, 23:02:22
    - Can we blame you for Biden’s weak, feckless presidency which opened the door for Trump to return? - Toonces June 24, 2025, 13:02:33
      - I wanted Al Franken* - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 13:22:39
        
        me too - Ari Gold June 24, 2025, 13:52:40
        
        Eff Gillibrand* - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 14:04:45
    - ooo - VIV June 24, 2025, 12:35:40
  - well we don’t need that either * - biclops June 24, 2025, 9:32:47
Go Big Z!* - Warrin'_Illini June 24, 2025, 8:46:25
- Why do you support ghost guns and revenge porn? - Poldark June 24, 2025, 9:52:30
  - Ghost guns and revenge porn sounds like a good name for Cuomo's agenda should he get elected. - Warrin'_Illini June 24, 2025, 10:05:37
    - Let’s see him interviewed. Must be Bernie approved: - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 12:30:37
      - Tries to thread the needle on globalizing the intifada: - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 13:48:17
why would he or anyone here that doesn't live in NYC care who wins the NYC mayor?* - VIV June 24, 2025, 8:45:30
- I do enjoy a Cuomo eating shit. Looks like I got my wish.* - SurfTheBoneyard June 24, 2025, 21:53:09
  - Hundo p* - Herman Blume June 25, 2025, 10:40:52
- Because you would really like them to improve their native style of pizza so it isn't pure garbage?* - ATL June 24, 2025, 8:49:31
  - ^^^ Suggested Costco pizza a week ago ^^^ * - haighter June 24, 2025, 8:52:49
    - It's great. And a far better effort than NY style pizza.* - ATL June 24, 2025, 8:58:00
      - C’mon, man* - Sounder June 24, 2025, 9:06:08
        
        It's the worst regional pizza style short of Imo's* - ATL June 24, 2025, 9:31:30
        
        I hate New York pizza, but it’s better than Costco* - Sounder June 24, 2025, 9:32:25
        
        Nope. Sorry Ray. Costco is more famous than you. * - ATL June 24, 2025, 9:38:19
        
        *collapses thread** - Sounder June 24, 2025, 9:39:50
        
        Which pizza is Paperboy Love Prince's favorite? - osklister June 24, 2025, 10:35:11
        
        Tried finding and found this: - JeffFrank June 24, 2025, 12:26:38

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