I think it’s all wrapped into one really Archived Message
Posted by snipes824 on October 20, 2023, 12:47:19, in reply to "i don't know if it's that so much as opposition and non governance is the strategy"
It’s first and foremost what you said, but the border example is just a natural extension of it. They’re hardwired to be against, so they’re even against the thing they want (because a democrat is in charge). Previous Message owning the libs above all else. Previous Message That’s a sign of it being open. Previous Message opposition party for so long and they needed to figure out how to be a governing party. That it’s easy to be against things and hard to actually get things done.
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- House GOP/Speaker news - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2023, 10:53:28
- Good short thread on GOP leadership - TarheelIllini October 21, 2023, 5:27:15
- Had the pleasure of a 4.5 hour car ride today wherein I listened to a lot of conservative talk radio - opossum jenkins October 20, 2023, 17:15:43
- So it’s either going to be one of these nobodies, or literally nobody?* - snipes824 October 20, 2023, 13:35:11
- austin scott still out there blaming democrats for republican majority's inability - suburbanmyth October 20, 2023, 13:17:27
- huh the deep state was the House GOP this whole time - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 13:10:23
- Jordan loses secret ballot in conference* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 13:00:09
- I’m reminded of some of the stuff Paul Ryan was saying back in 16-17 about how the GOP had been an - biclops October 20, 2023, 12:33:01
- I'm confused by this - Republicans have had control over one or both legislative chambers pretty - ATL October 20, 2023, 12:52:01
- They need to figure out how to win elections on a level playing field. - IlliniRunner October 20, 2023, 12:43:10
- Yep. They’re so used to reactionary opposition that when we make a big seizure on the border - snipes824 October 20, 2023, 12:40:29
- What was the last meaningful bit of legislation passed by the GOP - Sounder October 20, 2023, 12:39:40
- And really, it's two or three different parties that share a logo. * - doubledown October 20, 2023, 12:35:10
- the GOPs best move would be to allow Jeffries to become speaker - memyselfandillini October 20, 2023, 12:15:45
- Gaetz and co. say they'll gladly accept punishment in return for Jordan as speaker - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 11:49:54
- If they feel so strongly, they should resign. Also, there are some names missing. * - doubledown October 20, 2023, 12:13:02
- what a load* - memyselfandillini October 20, 2023, 12:09:48
- lol Buck says he never signed the letter - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 12:01:28
- The appropriate response is to nominate McCarty and tell the 8 that it's "time to come together"* - GMAW October 20, 2023, 11:54:26
- exactly* - memyselfandillini October 20, 2023, 12:10:42
- "We must come together to elect the guy whom we were angling to elect the whole time!" - GMAW October 20, 2023, 11:53:10
- What a bizarre, incoherent set of positions* - ATL October 20, 2023, 11:52:10
- been watching a lot of foxnews lately (more so than usual)... - suburbanmyth October 20, 2023, 11:48:17
- GOP Dead Ender: we failed the American people by not defaulting on our debt or shutting down the gov - ATL October 20, 2023, 11:28:19
- GOP conference will vote on if Jordan should remain nominee at 1 est* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 11:11:28
- 194 votes for Jordan LOL* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 10:51:58
- my favorite part was the democrats laughing at mccarthy; what a cuck* - suburbanmyth October 20, 2023, 11:11:20
- I blame the democrats * - opey8 October 20, 2023, 11:01:39
- If my brief check is right 194 is the lowest for the nominee of a majority party since 1901 - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 10:57:30
- rigged election. he clearly won by a huge margin. some say the biggest margin ever.* - VIV October 20, 2023, 10:53:21
- Lulz* - UofIL6 October 20, 2023, 11:40:27
- pole: will there be a permanent speaker of the house before or after 1/1/24?* - John Coctostan October 20, 2023, 10:46:54
- Loser loses again.* - SurfTheBoneyard October 20, 2023, 10:23:43
- 3 flips and one from NY. After all the talk that maybe the NY congregation was swayed on SALT* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 10:36:36
- And now at more R no votes than the previous round, with plenty of vote to go.* - MojoJojo October 20, 2023, 10:35:41
- Is Jim Jordan one of those guys who pays women to kick him in the balls? - GMAW October 20, 2023, 10:32:56
- bigbop has all of them on retainer* - suburbanmyth October 20, 2023, 11:10:46
- It shows the depths and pervasiveness of the 1/6 mindset - snipes824 October 20, 2023, 10:47:21
- McCarthy introduced him as an “effective legislator” - SurfTheBoneyard October 20, 2023, 10:43:29
- I feel like he's punching himself in the balls. Which is fine. - Illiniphil October 20, 2023, 10:37:57
- alternates between that and irradiating them* - ATL October 20, 2023, 10:35:03
- 2 flips so far and on the Ls. Fitting* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 10:30:47
- Jordan threatening to hold votes throughout the weekend - CanHartlebHireSnider October 20, 2023, 9:00:41
- LOL. They really did it. - Carl Spackler October 19, 2023, 18:19:21
- No vote tonight. 10 AM tomorrow* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 19, 2023, 18:10:23
- i guess newt didn't get the memo that this is all the democrats' fault - suburbanmyth October 19, 2023, 17:50:45
- Really working the powers of persuasion Jim - CanHartlebHireSnider October 19, 2023, 17:12:59
- This is ####ing disgusting. But I’m glad the more moderate folks are finally opening their - John Coctostan October 19, 2023, 16:20:00
- GOP conference is hilarious. Jordan and McCarthy want a vote on McHenry - CanHartlebHireSnider October 19, 2023, 13:59:39
- But this puts into the context the mess the GOP is in - CanHartlebHireSnider October 19, 2023, 14:40:44
- dems in disarray l!* - biclops October 19, 2023, 14:27:33
- This is all about showing the Freedom Caucus who is in charge. Want to be saboteurs? - GMAW October 19, 2023, 14:26:56
- By "actual leadership", you mean the folks who voted out McCarthy, like Gaetz, et al?* - IlliniRunner October 19, 2023, 14:06:41
- Jordan not throwing in the towel - complainant October 19, 2023, 12:19:58
- So if the GOP puts a motion to empower McHenry on the floor - CanHartlebHireSnider October 19, 2023, 11:13:09
- watching mods use the insurrectionist caucus' own tactics against them is at least entertaining* - John Coctostan October 19, 2023, 10:50:51
- Jake Sherman reporting that Jordan will stand down until January - GMAW October 19, 2023, 10:07:52
- Looks like McHenry until January is going to happen - snipes824 October 19, 2023, 10:06:40
- nobody here will ever love nancy pelosi more than me... - suburbanmyth October 18, 2023, 17:24:07
- I’ll put this here so ‘possum sees it - looks like Romney’s started the book tour early - ATL October 18, 2023, 17:06:44
- more bigboppery - suburbanmyth October 18, 2023, 15:34:08
- No more votes today. Jordan not dropping out* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 14:55:57
- Can't the Dems just save the day, approve someone and get on with the nation's business?* - timmer October 18, 2023, 14:16:47
- how about a few Republicans choose a Democrat to support?* - memyselfandillini October 18, 2023, 16:44:08
- oOo - KingTalkyTiki October 18, 2023, 14:45:53
- Why should they?* - IlliniRunner October 18, 2023, 14:42:20
- Its clearly the Libs fault for not fixing the GOP infighting * - Dark Knight October 18, 2023, 14:29:54
- They can put Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, or Kevin McCarthy across the goal line - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 14:28:04
- Anti-Jordan voters claim they’re staggering their “no” votes - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 13:42:16
- If this is just the general politics thread - snipes824 October 18, 2023, 13:27:43
- Love McCarthy smugly and condescendingly telling reporters Jordan should stick it out - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 12:40:18
- I suspect the Jordan vote is much more about Matt Gaetz than it is about Jim Jordan* - GMAW October 18, 2023, 12:24:19
- House recessed. Looks like back to conference meeting over McHenry vote* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 12:20:09
- Lawler pushing McHenry - ATL October 18, 2023, 12:12:47
- lol Spartz is really upping the crazy* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 12:03:14
- dems - get together, nominate Josh Gottheimer and then stand back and watch the 'moderate' - John Coctostan October 18, 2023, 11:49:54
- I mean honestly, Jim Jordan is a buffoon. - WhitmansFolly October 18, 2023, 11:37:37
- I really wish CNN would stop cranking the gain on the mic every time a critical vote is cast* - opossum jenkins October 18, 2023, 11:31:47
- Cole: Jordan has a plan to "get at the real drivers of debt... medicare, social security" - VIV October 18, 2023, 11:15:21
- Round 2 starting now. Jordan expected to lose again then possibly vote on McHenry* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 10:54:53
- Motion to empower McHenry as speaker pro tem to be filed today - CanHartlebHireSnider October 18, 2023, 8:52:25
- Seen a couple of reports like this - Jordan allies threatening the families of representatives - ATL October 17, 2023, 20:44:44
- No more votes today. Jordan to run it again tomorrow* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 16:25:17
- Let the masochism continue!* - SurfTheBoneyard October 17, 2023, 19:04:07
- Ken Buck says Jordan will lose votes in the next round. - larue33 October 17, 2023, 17:09:05
- Gives him the night to sell his soul* - Mrap24 October 17, 2023, 17:03:26
- How many votes were there today?* - Sounder October 17, 2023, 16:28:30
- 1* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 16:32:45
- Watch that hot mic Fox News! - ATL October 17, 2023, 15:18:17
- water is wet thoughts - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 13:28:43
- why do you do this?* - suburbanmyth October 17, 2023, 13:29:26
- This community's people spend 6 hrs/week observing what might/just happened in a sports game.* - complainant October 17, 2023, 14:41:11
- Between Israel, Bigbop shitposting, and House speaker chatter - Sounder October 17, 2023, 14:47:58
- I'll give Bopper credit for one thing....he's done a fantastic job of shitposting - KingTalkyTiki October 17, 2023, 15:22:04
- If that’s the way you and others feel I’m happy to go away - bigbop85 October 17, 2023, 16:30:57
- you maybe need to take a few weeks away. Not a ban, but a voluntary vacation - DanSaint October 17, 2023, 18:41:35
- oOo - KingTalkyTiki October 18, 2023, 11:05:51
- Or you can just stop shitoosting and engage people in good faith* - CoronaTheirAss October 17, 2023, 17:22:29
- You do as you please. - KingTalkyTiki October 17, 2023, 16:50:49
- 100%, please go away - Sounder October 17, 2023, 16:39:24
- Exactly, he spreads shit evenly like a crop duster - Sounder October 17, 2023, 15:29:10
- yep, I've been considering another big break. there's not been much going on worth visiting. - 1 NEW October 17, 2023, 15:09:36
- ooo - JeffFrank October 17, 2023, 15:03:06
- no argument from me* - suburbanmyth October 17, 2023, 14:48:46
- why are democrats letting this happen???!!!* - biclops October 17, 2023, 13:15:16
- Jordan already turned 1 of his anti votes in Doug LaMalfa* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 13:06:24
- will the GOP ever offer even the tiniest of bones to the Dems to get a speaker elected? - ECEIllinois October 17, 2023, 12:50:20
- 20 voted against Jordan on the 1st ballot - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 12:43:33
- I continue to believe that Republicans will eventually fall in line behind Jordan - GMAW October 17, 2023, 12:40:08
- 5 already vs Jordan into the Fs. - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 12:12:14
- Spartz is voting present lol. Most chaotic energy in congress* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 17, 2023, 11:40:07
- Just, you know, what is Adam Kinzinger’s angle? - opossum jenkins October 17, 2023, 11:32:16
- reports are that jordan does not have the votes* - suburbanmyth October 17, 2023, 11:22:10
- Assuming this is the politics thread, Chamath sees the light - bigbop85 October 16, 2023, 20:45:35
- it appears that in a shocking turn of events, moderate Rs have completely capitulated to the - John Coctostan October 16, 2023, 10:48:48
- I don’t care about the politics of any of this, I just really, really can’t stand Jim Jordan.* - Tortillini October 16, 2023, 20:40:32
- Reportedly Jordan has promised votes on Israel and Ukraine aid to moderates* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 16, 2023, 18:01:14
- One more reason why no one should ever vote for any Republican, the party is broken* - reggiedunlop October 16, 2023, 10:58:47
- 18 Chicago Alderman just voted against a resolution supporting Israel - bigbop85 October 16, 2023, 16:04:06
- Democrats getting what they deserve for voting out McCarthy* - JeffFrank October 16, 2023, 15:20:14
- pitchbot?* - suburbanmyth October 16, 2023, 16:16:24
- they never voted him in, how could they vote him out? * - memyselfandillini October 16, 2023, 16:06:51
- Which Democrat introduced the resolution to vote him out?* - MojoJojo October 16, 2023, 15:57:00
- Well they didn’t vote him in, sooo… - SurfTheBoneyard October 16, 2023, 15:55:51
- I still sort of think the Dems ####ed around and found out here. - Carl Spackler October 16, 2023, 16:01:32
- I think Jordan’s extreme positions will absolutely break through to the median voter* - John Coctostan October 16, 2023, 17:20:34
- That’s assuming that McCarthy was a trustworthy partner. But that’s contrary to all the evidence.* - ATL October 16, 2023, 16:48:18
- Now they will target the so called moderate GOPers in swing districts… - SurfTheBoneyard October 16, 2023, 16:40:05
- I don't see any reason Ds should trust McCarthy. Vote for the sleazebag you know because - CoronaTheirAss October 16, 2023, 16:15:31
- At some point, the Dems had to put their foot down and stop enabling the GOP bullshit - IlliniRunner October 16, 2023, 16:13:19
- I don’t think anyone trusted McCarthy - CanHartlebHireSnider October 16, 2023, 16:07:37
- Jordan has failed at everything. I'll be happy to watch him fail here.* - complainant October 16, 2023, 16:05:01
- lol * - ATL October 16, 2023, 15:53:04
- maybe your worst opinion yet* - reggiedunlop October 16, 2023, 15:49:05
- Nobody wants their staff and family harassed by their own supporters. Easier to just cave. * - doubledown October 16, 2023, 10:53:03
- house pub admits they're useless - assassin October 13, 2023, 17:14:54
- lol so they did a 2nd ballot that asked if they went to the floor would you vote Jordan? - CanHartlebHireSnider October 13, 2023, 15:53:17
- lol Jordan won 124-81 over Scott. That’s not much better* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 13, 2023, 15:08:32
- Austin Scott is running vs Jim Jordan* - CanHartlebHireSnider October 13, 2023, 11:13:50
- Did she see Trump's? - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2023, 21:32:19
- Scalise pulls out of running * - ijustkrushalot October 12, 2023, 18:58:40
- Probably no vote this week - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2023, 13:17:36
- Bob Menendez accused of acting as a foreign agent - CanHartlebHireSnider October 12, 2023, 12:20:55
- 100% that doesn't happen until a speaker is elected will be all on the GOP - timmer October 12, 2023, 10:31:21
- So Wasserman wonders if any Pub can get to 217. - Carl Spackler October 12, 2023, 7:14:44
- Nancy Mace is hilarious - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2023, 16:39:59
- Some NY Republican congresspeople are now in favor of expelling Santos. - ATL October 11, 2023, 15:57:35
- No vote today because Scalise doesn’t have the necessary votes yet* - Carl Spackler October 11, 2023, 15:22:31
- MTG comes out against Scalise because he has cancer - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2023, 13:30:12
- Have we heard from the Republican Self-Sabotage Subcommittee?* - GMAW October 11, 2023, 12:47:13
- Scalise wins 113-99 - CanHartlebHireSnider October 11, 2023, 12:13:28
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