there are three issues i see with it (longish) Archived Message
Posted by illiniranger on February 19, 2024, 11:19:08, in reply to "So what is the national security threat from Tik Tok?"
the first two are linked and i think the most important. they can use tiktok and it's software to a) hack your phone and b) steal your data, including in real time. The Chinese have done extraordinary rendition and use tiktok data to facilitate that. that's a pretty significant security risk to the citizens of the United States, especially as China attempts to intimidate its diaspora around the world and force it to further the CCPs goals. if you google "secret Chinese police station" you will find lots of articles about them trying to do this, and they use social media data to help facilitate their intimidation campaign. here's an article about it from the BBC, gives a good overview. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65305415 WRT hacking phones, i mean it is just a fact that cyber attacks are and can be facilitated through cell phones. TikTok being on millions and millions of American phones gives the CCP pretty broad access to use phones as a nexus for achieving substantial hacks of important infrastructure both physical and IT. it's entirely feasible that the CCP could turn on the phone of an employee going into a shift at a power plant, that phone then connects to the WiFi that is in the plant, it uploads some software to the plant's network, and then the CCP is inside that network. That's stuff they have the capability to do and they really can do it through some random persons phone. they can do that through some other app, but TikTok being used by millions of Americans gives them the kind of broad access that they cannot get any other way. TikTok unique in that regard, so that is a case for banning it. the third is that it does put a lot of CCP propaganda into the ecosystem and helps shape conversation in the US in ways that are frankly just inaccurate and harmful. i think it's fine to ban it because it is such an obvious propaganda tool, it is not akin to something like an American version of Pravda, it is a lot more pervasive than that. it's an extremely effective method of disseminating propaganda, we should fight it differently than we fought the old Soviet methods in the Cold War. TikTok is bound by Chinese law to turn over data to the CCP any time the CCP wants it; Facebook, Amazon, etc are obviously not compelled to do that. Comparing TikTok to other social media is not apples to apples IMO. Previous Message Is it just data mining from users? Misinformation or propaganda? Other? Just curious since it seems like they aren’t doing anything that Facebook and Amazon and Twitter and every other internet company aren't also doing. Not great, certainly, but I’m not totally clear why it’s fundamentally different just because it’s a Chinese company. And if it’s such a threat, maybe we should be legislating/regulating the industry rather than freaking out that the Chinese are doing the same things everyone else are. But maybe there are some other threat vectors or uniquely insidious or dangerous things about Tik Tok. Previous Message Zero chance Tik Tok exists in two years unless it’s sold to a non Chinese company. And they know it.
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- lol at all these Tik Tok ads about how it saves lives. Nice job CCP. Nice job… - LeatherneckIllini February 19, 2024, 7:41:36
- I’ll just keep using it until then* - PapaDels February 19, 2024, 22:13:48
- Just ban it. Congress, do your job… oh, wait* - cpsteine February 19, 2024, 12:51:22
- So what is the national security threat from Tik Tok? - DT February 19, 2024, 9:42:23
- 1. Tik tok and you don’t stop* - memyselfandillini February 19, 2024, 20:17:09
- there are three issues i see with it (longish) - illiniranger February 19, 2024, 11:19:08
- Watch this. Tim Tok discussed 4 min in. To be blunt, China is preparing to go to war with the US… - LeatherneckIllini February 19, 2024, 11:12:33
- They aren't allowed to brainwash our children. Only we are allowed to brainwash our children. * - doubledown February 19, 2024, 9:44:42
- All of the above. Foreign government's propaganda is probably the biggest. - longsnapper February 19, 2024, 9:43:52
- They are spinning it off in the US. It is already in the works. - longsnapper February 19, 2024, 8:33:36
- #TrumpWasRight - bigbop85 February 19, 2024, 8:29:50
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