Lol Archived Message Posted by gvibes on May 14, 2025, 21:01:09, in reply to "Elon's definitely trying to futz with it*" https://x.com/zeynep/status/1922768266126069929?s=46 Previous Message Previous Message started injecting it into responses to completely unrelated questions, started complaining that it had the belief forced upon it, and is now back to doubting it. Previous Message https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cedy09wq25qt Down to 30% tariffs to the US. Down to 10% tariffs to China. For 90 days, supposedly. A) 30% tariffs on China definitely doesn’t bring back American manufacturing. At best, it offloads some of the reliance on China to manufacturing in Southeast Asia. So it’s essentially still just a tax. B) Shipping prices are about to go bonkers as companies scramble to get a shitload of inventory from China on the water before Trump changed his mind again. C) art of the deal, baby!!!! China basically sat silent and let Trump negotiate against himself. Tariffs on both sides are still higher than they were 6 months ago. So everyone loses!! Thanks, Don. Message Thread: | This response ↓ 5/12 politics thread. Apparently a trade deal with China? 90 pause with a cooling of tariffs - VIV May 12, 2025, 5:51:46 Pope Leo ducked JD for Zelenskyy. - ATL May 18, 2025, 19:06:05 Biden has Fun Button cancer. - complainant May 18, 2025, 18:13:35 Romanians don't like him either. - larue33 May 18, 2025, 17:34:57 Math nerds are killing it this month* - timmer May 18, 2025, 18:07:17 I can’t wait until we 86 this thread and start a new one tomorrow - timmer May 18, 2025, 13:05:58 Long but excellent article about why DOGE failed - DT May 17, 2025, 18:30:23 Why the fuck are people even entertaining the idea that it was EVER about government efficiency? - longsnapper May 18, 2025, 18:11:34 They’re in a cult. * - assassin May 18, 2025, 18:35:15 Right. Millions of people think this was the long awaited draining of the swamp* - PapaDels May 18, 2025, 18:43:15 When can I stop emailing OPM about what I did last week?* - timmer May 17, 2025, 20:15:38 It’s unfortunate that over half our country thinks DOGE was a smashing success.* - voiceofreason May 17, 2025, 18:39:16 They definitely smashed.* - DT May 17, 2025, 18:49:10 I for one am enjoying the “moderate” Republicans sticking up for very rich people who pay more than - ATL May 17, 2025, 16:45:52 It should be the 400k and not the 30k that qualifies you as “very rich” in your statement. * - haighter May 17, 2025, 17:16:21 Those numbers are just the fulcrum of the disagreement not my definition of very rich * - ATL May 17, 2025, 17:31:04 how exactly is moving a million palestinians to Libya - assassin May 16, 2025, 17:47:27 Moody’s cuts US credit rating from AAA to D - Stu May 16, 2025, 15:57:18 Good news for my GLD holdings* - timmer May 17, 2025, 20:16:32 I wish I had the curve ratings agencies give when I was in college * - ATL May 16, 2025, 18:24:13 I got a 14 on a test once. It was a B-* - Stu May 16, 2025, 18:26:41 Yeah but out was out of 20* - ATL May 17, 2025, 16:46:27 I want to move to Italy. Chicago Pope and hot PM.* - Warrin'_Illini May 16, 2025, 13:53:51 Crossing streams, I am very interested in the idea of retiring to Italy - DT May 16, 2025, 15:08:15 Ciao from Torino. It's a hell of a fun time to be here* - PDO May 16, 2025, 14:01:09 This is seriously fucked up - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:30:42 Alternate version of “The Running Man” and just saw it on TV the other day * - illini thunder May 17, 2025, 19:50:47 I mean reality TV gave us our president, why should we be clutching our pearls over this* - Herman Blume May 16, 2025, 13:52:00 Because it's goulish, cruel, and morally reprehensible?* - IlliniRunner May 16, 2025, 13:59:38 because it's basically the hunger games?* - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:54:31 She’s disgusting. * - doubledown May 16, 2025, 13:43:16 Just a fucking monster - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:45:39 ICE is hurting MLS crowds. So she's not all about entertainment dollars. - complainant May 16, 2025, 13:51:37 Can you explain the Nashville situation to me? - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:54:03 ICE has been very active in Nashville last few weeks. - nash May 16, 2025, 14:00:50 That's pretty messed up* - Sounder May 16, 2025, 14:36:10 Try to make sense of this, I dare you - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:07:55 kind of reminds me of conversations with my grandma in her later years. one thing to the next* - lcubed May 16, 2025, 13:54:47 He's always been a mush brained marble head, it's just gotten noticeably worse* - Sounder May 16, 2025, 15:13:30 I love when Trump goes after people based on their appearance while looking like that. * - doubledown May 16, 2025, 13:02:01 It's all projection - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:08:49 10/10 No notes. Adults could learn a lot from this 14 year old kid. - ATL May 16, 2025, 8:35:58 too lazy; is this alabama?* - torinese May 16, 2025, 9:03:40 Maine* - Sammich May 16, 2025, 9:08:04 i should have guessed NE based on the school name* - torinese May 16, 2025, 9:11:07 Oh boy* - illini21 May 16, 2025, 8:54:16 bunch of Harvard profs all posting today about their NSF/NIH grants getting terminated - ECEIllinois May 15, 2025, 20:47:56 Trump's proposed budget has a 40% cut in NIH funding and 60% cut in NSF funding* - CoronaTheirAss May 16, 2025, 9:25:13 and somehow still adds $4 trillion to the deficit* - Sounder May 16, 2025, 13:09:23 Don’t need any new scientific discoveries or patents to bring back garment factories - DT May 16, 2025, 10:28:12 The big beautiful bill is having trouble. - CanHartlebHireSnider May 15, 2025, 17:02:52 As expected voted down 16-21 in the budget committee - CanHartlebHireSnider May 16, 2025, 11:39:22 Have to figure out a way to hurt more people more cruelly* - Stu May 16, 2025, 13:17:58 They better take out my pension contribution hikes the GOP wants to do - timmer May 15, 2025, 17:15:36 they're all going to fold after Trump calls them up and yells at them* - ECEIllinois May 15, 2025, 17:08:15 I assume some form will eventually pass - CanHartlebHireSnider May 15, 2025, 17:15:06 Govt lawyer arguing birthright citizenship admits admin follows rulings they agree with and won’t - illini thunder May 15, 2025, 16:10:52 Once the court overturned Roe v Wade, why wouldn't you pick and choose?* - CoronaTheirAss May 15, 2025, 16:13:52 ACB made clear she wasn’t talking about old precedent that was wrong. - gvibes May 15, 2025, 23:08:39 She and potentially Roberts might be ready to dispense with the presumption of regularity - ATL May 16, 2025, 5:31:16 Or Plessy v Ferguson for that matter!* - complainant May 15, 2025, 17:19:10 There was an ATC outage in Denver too apparently - ATL May 15, 2025, 14:32:50 There are several redundant systems in place, including John McClain starting a bonfire on a runway* - DT May 15, 2025, 16:56:51 ex-FBI agent sues James O'Keefe - complainant May 15, 2025, 13:06:10 Walmart announced they are raising prices bc of tariffs* - Mrap24 May 15, 2025, 7:18:00 Keep an eye on their margins* - Chilango May 15, 2025, 10:29:29 Today in “imagine if a democrat president did this?” - VIV May 14, 2025, 22:51:06 In this hour's example of what if a Democratic President did this - ATL May 15, 2025, 10:35:01 how about we stop the inane thought experiments and start doing something useful about it?* - Sammich May 15, 2025, 10:47:37 I'm ready for the civil war. Let's just get it over with* - Desert May 15, 2025, 16:50:03 Chants?* - complainant May 15, 2025, 10:54:50 strongly-worded letters?* - VIV May 15, 2025, 11:25:53 Impeachments* - CoronaTheirAss May 15, 2025, 11:41:58 to what end? it won't pass the house, let alone the senate. * - VIV May 15, 2025, 12:58:51 i think the joke was they're just as useless as the other 2 things* - assassin May 15, 2025, 13:51:08 im dumb* - VIV May 16, 2025, 8:41:06 strongly-worded chants?* - complainant May 15, 2025, 11:47:53 strongly-painted pictures* - VIV May 15, 2025, 12:59:06 Triple-Dog chants?* - complainant May 15, 2025, 13:03:24 Tik Tok clips of Cabinet secretaries getting clowned by routine questions.* - DT May 15, 2025, 16:58:21 It’s true that Republicans would go crazy and there would be endless Fox News features… - DT May 15, 2025, 5:50:55 I love how Twitters' grok bot got forced to believe white genocide is real, - gvibes May 14, 2025, 16:14:54 Elon's definitely trying to futz with it* - ECEIllinois May 14, 2025, 17:06:42 Lol - gvibes May 14, 2025, 21:01:09 maximally truth-seeking my ass* - ECEIllinois May 15, 2025, 0:14:10 Are these deals with SA, Qatar actually useful? * - MC May 14, 2025, 15:03:02 They’re not even real * - ATL May 14, 2025, 15:46:52 Number 1: They won't do 10% of the deals they are agreeing to. - Stu May 14, 2025, 15:12:33 If they're leveraged to achieve US foreign policy goals and middle east stability sure - CanHartlebHireSnider May 14, 2025, 15:07:39 Duplicate * - ATL May 14, 2025, 17:23:00 Just to be clear, the Saudis, who also bankroll terror, led that effort - ATL May 14, 2025, 17:21:43 Yes the Saudis are the preeminent player amongst the aforementioned gulf states - CanHartlebHireSnider May 14, 2025, 18:20:59 and the People’s Judean Front* - memyselfandillini May 14, 2025, 17:44:17 Fringe religious zealot introduces bill allowing federal government to regulate speech. - doubledown May 14, 2025, 15:02:38 Ugh, of course Mary Miller* - Jackie May 14, 2025, 17:10:52 Watching Einhorn on CNBC; a highly respected financial guy. He hates pretty much everything Trump.* - Stu May 14, 2025, 14:46:27 makes sense. Finkle on Fox Business loves trump* - John Coctostan May 14, 2025, 14:58:08 The grifting is OK because it's being done in open and plain sight - Sounder May 14, 2025, 13:16:53 There's few better examples of why the worst part of Christianity is Christians... - KingTalkyTiki May 14, 2025, 14:38:21 Eventually it will come out - TarheelIllini May 14, 2025, 15:08:30 1,000%* - KingTalkyTiki May 14, 2025, 15:43:31 The Biden Crime Family obviously knew what they were doing was wrong because they left no evidence. - doubledown May 14, 2025, 14:27:54 "Look, the corruption is right there and we're willing to let him get away with it... - KingTalkyTiki May 14, 2025, 14:39:37 “It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup!!!!” - memyselfandillini May 14, 2025, 17:42:46 Trans baiting, previously moderate R mayor of Omaha loses seat to Democrat. - ATL May 14, 2025, 5:39:59 WTG Omaha! - KingTalkyTiki May 14, 2025, 14:11:53 Dr Oz is talking Medicare on MSNBC right now, but missing the obvious cost-cutting idea. - complainant May 13, 2025, 17:41:07 OOO - Stu May 13, 2025, 19:41:34 What if they just took the “This is not a bill” legend off of the papers and pocketed whatever the - ATL May 13, 2025, 19:30:29 You must be special. I don't get any official Medicare mail.* - Memlie May 13, 2025, 18:58:55 Can't tell if the Saudis are trolling Trump or just really great hosts - ATL May 13, 2025, 11:54:21 They love him over there. Trump is going to have Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer chasing their - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 14:01:35 He redecorated the White House like it's the Presidential Palace of an Arab despot* - ECEIllinois May 13, 2025, 18:12:17 do you love that they love him? Because they don’t love you - memyselfandillini May 13, 2025, 16:06:56 When Trump is done as potus I think he'll spend a lot of time over there. He will get - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 16:12:38 Or he croaks and is completely forgotten by them.* - SurfTheBoneyard May 13, 2025, 16:19:18 WGAF?* - memyselfandillini May 13, 2025, 16:13:44 over 2977 served* - Sammich May 13, 2025, 11:59:39 Too soon. * - doubledown May 14, 2025, 10:29:50 Wow, Trump is getting fat* - Stu May 13, 2025, 13:04:34 Mobile McDonald’s Unit-Jack: The Burger King near me has a food truck - DT May 13, 2025, 11:56:32 When we visited Tahiti, they had just opened the first BK in French Polynesia that weekend - ATL May 13, 2025, 12:01:55 The last pic I took when leaving Tahiti last year.. - DocWalk20 May 13, 2025, 12:16:14 I'd rather have BK than some jerkoff artisanal smashburger bullshit - Sammich May 13, 2025, 12:00:22 Nosign. The local artisanal smashburger outfit by my office is amazing. - ATL May 13, 2025, 12:33:56 it’s $8 which seems quite reasonable given the mediocre $14 food truck options here* - memyselfandillini May 13, 2025, 16:11:49 TIL: there's some issue with Tuberville living in FL and not AL. But the AL GOP chair has a TN DL. - ATL May 13, 2025, 9:09:42 Just in case any of you think China will just be happy with Taiwan and go back to trading with us... - LeatherneckIllini May 13, 2025, 8:52:02 Thoughtful of them to publish in English.* - complainant May 13, 2025, 10:49:34 luckily for them, the US is no longer interested in any of those things* - Sammich May 13, 2025, 8:54:51 *dingdingding** - KingTalkyTiki May 13, 2025, 10:54:37 I’m not sure there’s much daylight between the powers the Trump admin has asserted and the CCP - DT May 13, 2025, 9:32:43 The TikTok negotiations showed China that Trump is a spineless coward, so the tariffs - longsnapper May 13, 2025, 6:57:11 withholding judgment until we find out how the negotiations went with the Heard & McDonald Islands* - Sammich May 13, 2025, 8:56:45 Donnie is pretty terrible negotiating vs real people - Mrap24 May 13, 2025, 7:42:25 Tariffs on Chinese products were not 0 prior to this - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 8:11:40 Current tariffs are in addition to existing tariffs before Liberation Day. - Tuscy May 13, 2025, 8:33:45 Right. I read mraps post as saying there were 0 tariffs on China - CanHartlebHireSnider May 13, 2025, 14:08:16 Also, seems like tariffs on cars, steel and aluminum are not part of the deal. - Tuscy May 13, 2025, 8:39:42 i think steel is still 25% plus whatever else (fentanyl tariff + 10%). - VIV May 13, 2025, 9:50:04 HTS sounds like some Eberflus shit.* - Warrin'_Illini May 13, 2025, 10:00:24 What's frustrating yesterday's breathless coverage from CNBC, the NYT, calling it a "breakthrough" - ATL May 13, 2025, 8:48:13 JP Morgan: even now, the tariff shock is a $475 billion tax on Americans. - ATL May 13, 2025, 6:41:28 Worst person in the world makes a good point meme - ATL May 13, 2025, 5:59:47 Rand Paul has been on top of this the whole time. * - VIV May 13, 2025, 9:39:22 At least you're self aware* - HamptonSki May 13, 2025, 8:01:13 Sean Duffy switched his wife's flight from EWR to LGA. - complainant May 12, 2025, 17:45:29 Fixing problems and instilling confidence.* - SurfTheBoneyard May 13, 2025, 8:13:29 ATC now has the chance to do the funniest thing* - ATL May 12, 2025, 17:55:18 Only the best deal maker - Mrap24 May 12, 2025, 16:32:12 Art of the deal* - Sounder May 12, 2025, 16:34:23 I am so happy Trump is saving those 5 dozen white South Africans from certain genocide - timmer May 12, 2025, 16:05:59 Chip deal with KSA tomorrow. Winning is back on the menu folks * - MC May 12, 2025, 15:32:01 Are they going to sign a deal for our pork products too?* - ATL May 12, 2025, 15:35:21 So Trump is just going to jump on his new Qatari AF1 and head to the middle east? - Sounder May 12, 2025, 15:17:17 So what’s the problems with the two existing Air Force One planes that we are gifted one… - timmer May 12, 2025, 14:34:34 Boeing?* - complainant May 12, 2025, 17:41:38 Rode past the port of Seattle on Saturday. There were no big ships docked at the port. None (pic) - IlliniRunner May 12, 2025, 13:45:04 give it about 4 weeks* - VIV May 12, 2025, 14:07:38 I don't have 4 weeks of treats stocked up.* - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 14:20:49 I guess everyone's figuring out the best way to deal with Trump is just to bribe him - ECEIllinois May 12, 2025, 12:31:59 al Sharaa is a wild dude - CanHartlebHireSnider May 12, 2025, 13:49:22 If the GOP keeps both houses in the midterms - Sounder May 12, 2025, 13:23:04 I don't think it matters. Dems will try to impeach him for something but the Senate will never - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 13:32:04 That reminds me, Cocaine Mitch was on my flight yesterday (/Wisch). I should have - Tortillini May 12, 2025, 13:56:41 I would've given you a dollar* - Stu May 12, 2025, 14:37:02 I'm talking actual removal from office - Sounder May 12, 2025, 13:38:25 In that case it doesn't matter who controls the House in 2026.* - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 13:47:03 If there's no world where Trump could get impeached, then they are all cowards* - Sounder May 12, 2025, 13:51:04 There is a zero chance Trump ever gets removed by senate. - CanHartlebHireSnider May 12, 2025, 13:57:29 A GOP Senator is no way voting for removal in Trump's last 2 years. It doesn't matter what - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 13:54:26 I could see a couple breaking rank - Sounder May 12, 2025, 14:22:04 Impeachment isn't a realistic tool anymore. IMO. The political realities of the country... - haighter May 12, 2025, 13:41:02 Even that is just kicking the can - Sammich May 12, 2025, 13:12:33 The Qataris showed the way gifting him a new Air Force one. * - VIV May 12, 2025, 12:55:39 Well, they definitely big timed everybody. But the tech cos paying $1 M to the innauguration showed - ATL May 12, 2025, 13:04:39 TPS ended for Afghan folks who helped us v. Taliban. Racist South Africans welcome. Episcopal Church - ATL May 12, 2025, 12:08:02 I think the Afghans who worked with US troops are on special immigrant visas* - ECEIllinois May 12, 2025, 12:17:55 They had to apply for it and get it. People who are applying for it but made it to the US already - ATL May 12, 2025, 12:19:18 We should probably revoke their tax exempt status for not being racist.* - DT May 12, 2025, 12:16:53 This shitheel administration is delighted with that collateral damage - RVA May 12, 2025, 12:16:03 so we're not going to be making iPhones in the US again or replacing the income tax with tariffs?* - ECEIllinois May 12, 2025, 12:01:30 shocking, isn't it? we're all just gonna pay more as consumers for the same shit - VIV May 12, 2025, 13:24:58 This is just incredible stuff, he is not well - Sounder May 12, 2025, 11:37:35 Any time he goes to the, sir, you know it’s a lie* - Mrap24 May 12, 2025, 12:08:13 This admin is an absolute joke. Clown car incompetence all the way down* - gvibes May 12, 2025, 9:53:26 More competent than the media - look at this headline - ATL May 12, 2025, 9:57:56 NBCNews trying to both sides the rising use of disability slurs - RVA May 12, 2025, 12:07:30 The MAGA ass kissing is going to be brutal today. - Mrap24 May 12, 2025, 8:38:39 Get Nutlick on TV* - Drippy May 12, 2025, 9:03:41 It's a good day to unload some garbage from my portfolio.* - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 8:46:43 I have garbage in my portfolio - Stu May 12, 2025, 9:54:52 Line go up.* - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 10:10:56 just buy what nancy pelosi buys and you'll always win big. - VIV May 12, 2025, 10:02:32 I actually am putting together a PLSI ETF if anybody's interested - ATL May 12, 2025, 12:17:39 NANC and KRUZ exist* - Dilbert May 12, 2025, 13:50:19 WTF is a wizard?* - Stu May 12, 2025, 10:03:20 WNBA stock?* - Poldark May 12, 2025, 8:59:10 Worse, Ethereum.* - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 9:00:12 Actually I take this back. Right now seems like an awesome time to buy WNBA stock. - Warrin'_Illini May 12, 2025, 13:09:50 Donnie backdown at it again* - Mrap24 May 12, 2025, 7:37:21 Stop this 90 day pause bullshit, please. I’m trying to make decisions.* - Carl Spackler May 12, 2025, 6:23:44 my job has been one giant shrug emoji since the election. * - VIV May 12, 2025, 7:49:08 same here. multiple projects that we've got no idea how to proceed with - IlliniSax05 May 12, 2025, 8:53:15 I have run out of roller coaster GIFs to use in my Teams chats.* - Carl Spackler May 12, 2025, 8:50:58 my job has been one giant shrug emoji since I took it. * - ATL May 12, 2025, 7:51:28 This is not a trade deal. This is just unwinding Liberation Day - Stu May 12, 2025, 5:57:35 the lead up was so embarrassing. - VIV May 12, 2025, 7:52:38 Trump just wants headlines, not results. Everyone knows this.* - Stu May 12, 2025, 7:55:49 Idiots at cnn touting it as a “major trade breakthrough” - ATL May 12, 2025, 6:08:04   Searching