Good Monday morning!

Posted by Randle McMurphy on September 29, 2025, 1:30:53, in reply to "Headed there next week…"

Granada is great! See also: Ronda.*

Posted by KingTalkyTiki on September 19, 2025, 10:32:30, in reply to "Headed there next week…"

Previous Message Along with Madrid, Granada, Seville, Gibraltar, Lisbon and Porto. Any recs are greatly appreciated! Will report back on the tourism pulse Proudly ANTIFA for over 35 years. "You have cemented yourself as the most judgmental unforgiving person on a board full of judgmental unforgiving people."

Well that sounds fucking awesome*

Posted by Carl Spackler on September 19, 2025, 10:19:28, in reply to "Headed there next week…"

Previous Message Along with Madrid, Granada, Seville, Gibraltar, Lisbon and Porto. Any recs are greatly appreciated! Will report back on the tourism pulse

No surprise that ymmv. I’m seeing stories like this one…

Posted by PapaDels on September 17, 2025, 22:53:07, in reply to "Was there two months ago. Absolutely no sign of anti-tourism sentiment.*"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8d87l6lp1o.amp Truth is probably somewhere in between. Previous Message Previous Message It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works for them. I have schweppervessence and wessonality.

also...fyi, the next total eclipse goes very close to madrid in august 26*

Posted by Nobster on September 18, 2025, 7:42:53, in reply to "...was just there last week..."

Previous Message I had not been there in 20 years. Last time i was there I had a much different experience (and part of my life). People didn't go out to dinner until 11pm and didn't get up and going the next day until 10am at earliest. I remember 20 years ago, we left the night club at 6:30am, the sun was up, and there was still a huge line to get in. Now, i went to dinner at 9:00pm and was one of the last ones to sit down. i thought it was me but then I started chatting up a bartender and he gave me the lowdown as i sat at the bar eating alone. He said the locals and government got sick of all the tourists, folks coming off cruise ships, etc. Per him, the laws started changing in the mid 2010s that started eliminating the nocturnal lifestyle slowly but surely and then COVID officially killed it. The only place that culture still thrives is Madrid, per him, which I can confirm as I was there two years ago and it was lively late late into the night. Previous Message It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works for them.

i heard a similar thing about cruise ship docking in venice early this year

Posted by Nobster on September 18, 2025, 7:38:25, in reply to "...was just there last week..."

it floods the town with a surge of people that don't really boost income for hotels or restaurants Previous Message I had not been there in 20 years. Last time i was there I had a much different experience (and part of my life). People didn't go out to dinner until 11pm and didn't get up and going the next day until 10am at earliest. I remember 20 years ago, we left the night club at 6:30am, the sun was up, and there was still a huge line to get in. Now, i went to dinner at 9:00pm and was one of the last ones to sit down. i thought it was me but then I started chatting up a bartender and he gave me the lowdown as i sat at the bar eating alone. He said the locals and government got sick of all the tourists, folks coming off cruise ships, etc. Per him, the laws started changing in the mid 2010s that started eliminating the nocturnal lifestyle slowly but surely and then COVID officially killed it. The only place that culture still thrives is Madrid, per him, which I can confirm as I was there two years ago and it was lively late late into the night. Previous Message It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works for them.

I have been there a couple times in the last 2-3 years and never had dinner until after 11

Posted by reggiedunlop on September 17, 2025, 22:10:38, in reply to "...was just there last week..."

Also, walked out of a club at 6am and headed to the beach, so I am not sure about that. Previous Message I had not been there in 20 years. Last time i was there I had a much different experience (and part of my life). People didn't go out to dinner until 11pm and didn't get up and going the next day until 10am at earliest. I remember 20 years ago, we left the night club at 6:30am, the sun was up, and there was still a huge line to get in. Now, i went to dinner at 9:00pm and was one of the last ones to sit down. i thought it was me but then I started chatting up a bartender and he gave me the lowdown as i sat at the bar eating alone. He said the locals and government got sick of all the tourists, folks coming off cruise ships, etc. Per him, the laws started changing in the mid 2010s that started eliminating the nocturnal lifestyle slowly but surely and then COVID officially killed it. The only place that culture still thrives is Madrid, per him, which I can confirm as I was there two years ago and it was lively late late into the night. Previous Message It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works for them.

Interesting. So was it vibrant during the day? *

Posted by PapaDels on September 17, 2025, 21:31:48, in reply to "...was just there last week..."

Previous Message I had not been there in 20 years. Last time i was there I had a much different experience (and part of my life). People didn't go out to dinner until 11pm and didn't get up and going the next day until 10am at earliest. I remember 20 years ago, we left the night club at 6:30am, the sun was up, and there was still a huge line to get in. Now, i went to dinner at 9:00pm and was one of the last ones to sit down. i thought it was me but then I started chatting up a bartender and he gave me the lowdown as i sat at the bar eating alone. He said the locals and government got sick of all the tourists, folks coming off cruise ships, etc. Per him, the laws started changing in the mid 2010s that started eliminating the nocturnal lifestyle slowly but surely and then COVID officially killed it. The only place that culture still thrives is Madrid, per him, which I can confirm as I was there two years ago and it was lively late late into the night. Previous Message It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works for them. I have schweppervessence and wessonality.

I also saw where they were trying to limit how many cruise ships can be in at one time.

Posted by tvillini on September 17, 2025, 21:12:42, in reply to "I thought it was mostly a housing issue..."

I’m also seeing a lot of complaints of overcrowding in tourist destinations.

Posted by PapaDels on September 17, 2025, 20:35:33, in reply to "I thought it was mostly a housing issue..."

I have no dog in this hunt, I just find it an interesting topic. Particularly when cities like Vegas are asking tourists to come back. Previous Message With rentals driving up costs and creating a shortage. I'd just stay in a hotel. Previous Message It’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works for them. I have schweppervessence and wessonality.